Android & Window 7 w/64 bit OS question/complaint?

[Ringel05]

Give me a good reason why someone who is your average-basic home computer user...should buy a new computer to replace one that is working fine, just to go from XP to Win7.

[crickets]

Why I run Linux

Unfortunately most won't try Linux, they've either never heard of it, heard and believe all the Microsoft negative propaganda about it or a simply afraid to try something "new and unfamiliar".

I started using Ubuntu alongside Win7 and can tell you since I started using it, I spend much more time with Ubuntu than I do Win7.

I run Mint on one of my machines, simply because I think it's the most user friendly Linux distro available, I don't "tinker" in terminal.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Unfortunately most won't try Linux, they've either never heard of it, heard and believe all the Microsoft negative propaganda about it or a simply afraid to try something "new and unfamiliar".

I started using Ubuntu alongside Win7 and can tell you since I started using it, I spend much more time with Ubuntu than I do Win7.

I run Mint on one of my machines, simply because I think it's the most user friendly Linux distro available, I don't "tinker" in terminal.

I agree with that. Ubuntu does require just a little bit of terminal poking.
LinuxMint requires only to install the restricted codecs - and your on your way.

 

[Ringel05]

I started using Ubuntu alongside Win7 and can tell you since I started using it, I spend much more time with Ubuntu than I do Win7.

I run Mint on one of my machines, simply because I think it's the most user friendly Linux distro available, I don't "tinker" in terminal.

I agree with that. Ubuntu does require just a little bit of terminal poking.
LinuxMint requires only to install the restricted codecs - and your on your way.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that I can't use it I just don't like using terminal, I can't remember the damn commands so I'm constantly having to look them up or google search what I want to do then copy and past and hope it works.
I still haven't figured out how to install a downloaded program that doesn't install automatically, no .exe file.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I run Mint on one of my machines, simply because I think it's the most user friendly Linux distro available, I don't "tinker" in terminal.

I agree with that. Ubuntu does require just a little bit of terminal poking.
LinuxMint requires only to install the restricted codecs - and your on your way.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that I can't use it I just don't like using terminal, I can't remember the damn commands so I'm constantly having to look them up or google search what I want to do then copy and past and hope it works.
I still haven't figured out how to install a downloaded program that doesn't install automatically, no .exe file.

sudo ./

 

[Ringel05]

i agree with that. Ubuntu does require just a little bit of terminal poking.
Linuxmint requires only to install the restricted codecs - and your on your way.

don't get me wrong, it's not that i can't use it i just don't like using terminal, i can't remember the damn commands so i'm constantly having to look them up or google search what i want to do then copy and past and hope it works.
I still haven't figured out how to install a downloaded program that doesn't install automatically, no .exe file.

sudo ./

Δεν καταλαβαίνω.

 

[Navy1960]

Unfortunately most won't try Linux, they've either never heard of it, heard and believe all the Microsoft negative propaganda about it or a simply afraid to try something "new and unfamiliar".

I started using Ubuntu alongside Win7 and can tell you since I started using it, I spend much more time with Ubuntu than I do Win7.

I run Mint on one of my machines, simply because I think it's the most user friendly Linux distro available, I don't "tinker" in terminal.

Well Ringel as I was put out to pasture a while back LOL, I find that the learning process with computers never stops, so when I used the term "tinker" I meant in the my context of course not for someone who may use it for their business or production environment. On a side note, because my flying days are now past, I am teaching myself how to fly R/C helicopters, so when I become better at , I sort of had the idea that it might be fun to also teach myself a little about adding some sort of video to it so I can get a live feed from a laptop.

 

[Ringel05]

I started using Ubuntu alongside Win7 and can tell you since I started using it, I spend much more time with Ubuntu than I do Win7.

I run Mint on one of my machines, simply because I think it's the most user friendly Linux distro available, I don't "tinker" in terminal.

Well Ringel as I was put out to pasture a while back LOL, I find that the learning process with computers never stops, so when I used the term "tinker" I meant in the my context of course not for someone who may use it for their business or production environment. On a side note, because my flying days are now past, I am teaching myself how to fly R/C helicopters, so when I become better at , I sort of had the idea that it might be fun to also teach myself a little about adding some sort of video to it so I can get a live feed from a laptop.

Never said I don't know how to do much of it and I have, and am still learning. I simply stated I don't like doing it, I'm a visual point and click kinda person.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wha... did you just say Linux isn't practical for production use?
Define production please.

Production work: Being able to collect and parse barcode entries and post to an ERP. Being able to establish DNC with various NC machinery. Being able to operate the electronic doors, gates and surveillance systems. Being able to run client software for the major ERP and CRM packages.

Linux is a fun little hobbyist OS - but not practical for use in business.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Wha... did you just say Linux isn't practical for production use?
Define production please.

Production work: Being able to collect and parse barcode entries and post to an ERP. Being able to establish DNC with various NC machinery. Being able to operate the electronic doors, gates and surveillance systems. Being able to run client software for the major ERP and CRM packages.

Linux is a fun little hobbyist OS - but not practical for use in business.

Wow...that is pretty funny.
Linux powers extraordinary systems worldwide by world governments, military, manufacturers and corporations.
Linux is the operating system that controls our two manufacturing presses made by Heidelberg...you know...the worlds largest printing press manufacturers.
Linux is widely becoming the standard for MIS systems throughout the business community.
Linux is the operating system that powers most of the internet...including USMB.
Linux clusters is the operating systems used by both Walt Disney and Pixar's multi-$million "renderman" for rendering animations.
The entire world financial system is stored on Linux systems. Most banks use Linux.

Linus is the KING of database servers.

"Linux is a fun little hobbyist system"...

 

[PeteEU]

Wha... did you just say Linux isn't practical for production use?
Define production please.

Production work: Being able to collect and parse barcode entries and post to an ERP. Being able to establish DNC with various NC machinery. Being able to operate the electronic doors, gates and surveillance systems. Being able to run client software for the major ERP and CRM packages.

Linux is a fun little hobbyist OS - but not practical for use in business.

Wow...that is pretty funny.
Linux powers extraordinary systems worldwide by world governments, military, manufacturers and corporations.
Linux is the operating system that controls our two manufacturing presses made by Heidelberg...you know...the worlds largest printing press manufacturers.
Linux is widely becoming the standard for MIS systems throughout the business community.
Linux is the operating system that powers most of the internet...including USMB.
Linux clusters is the operating systems used by both Walt Disney and Pixar's multi-$million "renderman" for rendering animations.
The entire world financial system is stored on Linux systems. Most banks use Linux.

Linus is the KING of database servers.

"Linux is a fun little hobbyist system"...

Not bad for a "socialist communist European" invention .. pity there are no real royalties..

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wow...that is pretty funny.
Linux powers extraordinary systems worldwide by world governments, military, manufacturers and corporations.
Linux is the operating system that controls our two manufacturing presses made by Heidelberg...you know...the worlds largest printing press manufacturers.
Linux is widely becoming the standard for MIS systems throughout the business community.
Linux is the operating system that powers most of the internet...including USMB.
Linux clusters is the operating systems used by both Walt Disney and Pixar's multi-$million "renderman" for rendering animations.
The entire world financial system is stored on Linux systems. Most banks use Linux.

Linus is the KING of database servers.

"Linux is a fun little hobbyist system"...

Whatever.

Tomorrow I'll run into a Mac cultist who will demand the whole of the internet runs on a Macbook air.

Funny thing, when my Palo Alto firewall boots up, it says that it's loading Linux as it's base OS - yet you still can't get an SSL-VPN client that runs under Linux for it.

Linux king of database servers?

I've seen some Oracle installs on Suse that ran pretty nicely. On small to mid-range, MSSQL will runs circles around them - not due to Linux, just due to Oracle being a pig.

Edit: I will admit that my Web server is running Red Hat with a MySQL database.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Not bad for a "socialist communist European" invention .. pity there are no real royalties..

Torvalds is Finnish, but developed Linux in California, Silicone Valley. I believe he lives in Oregon now.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Not bad for a "socialist communist European" invention .. pity there are no real royalties..

Torvalds is Finnish, but developed Linux in California, Silicone Valley. I believe he lives in Oregon now.

I am still chuckling on this...
If you are not embarrassed by your post that Linux isn't practical for business use...I don't know what to tell you.
Linux is very, very big in the server marketshare, especially Webservers...Microsoft only owns 16% of Webservers on the internet....16%.

Where Linux struggles (to say the least) is consumer desktops...not business...they are quite popular in the business marketshare.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I am still chuckling on this...
If you are not embarrassed by your post that Linux isn't practical for business use...I don't know what to tell you.
Linux is very, very big in the server marketshare, especially Webservers...Microsoft only owns 16% of Webservers on the internet....16%.

Where Linux struggles (to say the least) is consumer desktops...not business...they are quite popular in the business marketshare.

I work in the medium sized business space. I interact with thousands of businesses in the Aerospace and manufacturing space. Virtually none of them use Linux to any significant degree.

I like Linux too, but to pretend it is a dominant force is absurdity. Yes, I realize that the Unix big iron is adopting Linux, only thing is that big iron may not have that many years left.

IF you consider Solaris to be Linux, then the IBM big iron runs primarily on it. I consider it Unix, AIX was undeniably Unix.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I am still chuckling on this...
If you are not embarrassed by your post that Linux isn't practical for business use...I don't know what to tell you.
Linux is very, very big in the server marketshare, especially Webservers...Microsoft only owns 16% of Webservers on the internet....16%.

Where Linux struggles (to say the least) is consumer desktops...not business...they are quite popular in the business marketshare.

I work in the medium sized business space. I interact with thousands of businesses in the Aerospace and manufacturing space. Virtually none of them use Linux to any significant degree.

I like Linux too, but to pretend it is a dominant force is absurdity. Yes, I realize that the Unix big iron is adopting Linux, only thing is that big iron may not have that many years left.

IF you consider Solaris to be Linux, then the IBM big iron runs primarily on it. I consider it Unix, AIX was undeniably Unix.

nevermind...just a hint kid...that graph is user marketshare connecting to the internet. The fact it lists Windows consumer OS's should have been a wee hint.
That has absolutely ZERO to do with webserver marketshare....here is webserver marketshare.

 

[mudwhistle]

I recently bought a new Desktop PC with Windows 7, 64 bit OS. Just about the same time I upgraded my phone to the Samsung Epic 4G. One of the features is the ability to upload a ton of music from my Windows Media Player 11.
The problem is the fact that the Epic has only 32 bit driver software, I can download the driver software successfully but WMP doesn't recognize my phone. Actually, Samsung has no 64 bit USB driver software for any of their phones.
I "chatted" live with Samsung's tech support and also with a techie friend of mine and it appears that I'm shit-out-of-luck.
Any techies have any ideas?

You're gonna have to wait till the rest of the technology catches up to 64 bit.

But hey, you can surf porn at hyperspeed now.

That's a small consolation I guess.

 

[Uncensored2008]

nevermind...just a hint kid...that graph is user marketshare connecting to the internet. The fact it lists Windows consumer OS's should have been a wee hint.
That has absolutely ZERO to do with webserver marketshare....here is webserver marketshare.

And here is where we got off track, son: I stated BUSINESS use and even specified ERP, DNC, etc. You jumped right on over to Web Servers. I acknowledged that even my Web server runs Linux.

 

[PeteEU]

Not bad for a "socialist communist European" invention .. pity there are no real royalties..

Torvalds is Finnish, but developed Linux in California, Silicone Valley. I believe he lives in Oregon now.

Actually he developed it in Finland which is in Europe and part of the "socialist Scandinavia".

But yes, now he lives in the US and is still Finnish.. a European

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually he developed it in Finland which is in Europe and part of the "socialist Scandinavia".

But yes, now he lives in the US and is still Finnish.. a European

{After a visit to Transmeta in late 1996,[4] Torvalds accepted a position at the company in California, where he would work from February 1997 to June 2003. He then moved to the Open Source Development Labs, which has since merged with the Free Standards Group to become the Linux Foundation, under whose auspices he continues to work. In June 2004, Torvalds and his family moved to Portland, Oregon, to be closer to the OSDL's Beaverton, Oregon–based headquarters.}

Linus Torvalds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He wrote his thesis on Linux, but actually developed and released it while at Transmeta, in California.