And Why Did the Terrorist Attack Us?

[Flopper]

Granted they are religious fanatics but it goes much deeper than that.

The basis for most all the problems we have with the Muslim world boils down two things, support for Israel and Oil. We are not hated because of who we are, but rather for what we do. Our ventures into the Middle East have been costly both in dollars and human lives. Had our intrusion into the Arab world been limited to the Israeli issue, our relations would have improved with time. Our actions to keep oil flowing to the west and out of the hands of Russia clearly made us the enemy to many Muslims.

First we instigated a government overflow in 1953 in Iran putting the Shaw in power. For 25 years we supported a dictatorship in Iran giving them 1.2 billion dollars to keep the oil flowing to the west until the people of Iran revolted and put the Ayatollah in power.

We then helped Saddam Hussein in the war against Iran. Then we turned on Saddam and attacked when he threatens the flow oil by invading Kuwait. Tens years later we attacked Iraq again because they had WMDs which turned out to be bogus. During the war we killed over 100,000 civilians and embarrass ourselves with the Abagrave prison scandal and the lack of evidence of WMDs.

In Afghanistan, we supported the Afghans against Russia to prevent Russian from controlling a proposed oil pipeline across Afghanistan. Then we walked out of Afghanistan leaving it to the Taliban. Today we are fighting against those that we previously supported.

In Guantanamo, we hold hundreds of accused terrorist without trial, which is contrary to our claims we make about American justice.

During this entire foreign policy debacle, we bought off the Saudi royal family with arms deals and defense agreements, which has alienates them and us in the Middle East.

If you want to know why Islamic terrorist attack us, you need only to look at 60 years of American foreign policy in the Middle East which has been a disaster. The solution is painful but very simple. GET THE HELL OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST BY BECOMING ENERGY INDEPENDENT.

Iran ? United States relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Soviet war in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Guantanamo Bay detention camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ConHog]

WOW that was right out of Obama's playbook. Did they email that to you today?

 

[lizzie]

Had our intrusion into the Arab world been limited to the Israeli issue, our relations would have improved with time.

I don't believe that for a second. They hate the Jews more than anything else I know of, and they need to grow up and get over it.

As for oil- I'd love to be energy independent, but you and I both know that this isn't going to happen at any point in the near future. If it wasn't the Jews, and it wasn't the oil, it would be something else.

 

[hipeter924]

Muslim’s Position Towards Western Civilization​

By Salaah Al-Budair​

Summary
1) The reality of western civilization.
2) Western civilization has no spirit (materialistic).
3) Western civilization has more harm to it than benefit.
4) The eagerness of the west to dissolve Muslim’s identity.
5) The west utilizes their civilization to attack Islaam, and to finish Muslims.
6) Islaam calls for taking advantage of anything beneficial, and refuse anything evil.
All praise is due to Allaah. May His peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his household and companions.
Brothers in faith! Fear Allaah, for that is the best earning and obey Him. Be dutiful to Allaah and hope for the reward on the Last Day and commit no mischief on the earth.
“O you who believe! Fear Allaah as He should be feared and die not except in the state of Islaam.” (Aal ‘Imraan: 102).
Fellow Muslims! We are nowadays confronted with a relentless war waged by the materialistic western civilization and culture that burns its producers and afflicts them with calamities, misery, immorality, disruption, suicide and all kinds of evils. It is in fact, a civilization that turns their conducts upside down, disorganizes their affairs, exposes them to toil and corrupts their minds. It is a civilization that knows no difference between lawful and unlawful, useful and harmful. It is full of useless markets, clubs and vacant minds! A civilization that is incapable of protecting individuals’ honor nor capable of providing them with meaningful sense of happiness in their life. Such is the reward of those who turn away from the Lord of all the worlds. Theirs is a civilization that is destroyed by its own products. It is a civilization that races towards creating all means of trouble, disturbance and destruction.
Allaah says what translates as, “They destroy not but their own selves, yet they perceive (it) not.” (Al-An‘aam: 26).
He also says what translates as, “Or do you think that most of them hear or understand? They are only like cattle nay, they are even farther astray from the path (i.e. even worse than cattle).” (Al-Furqaan: 43).
He also says what translates as: “They know only the outside appearance of the life of the world and they are headless of the Hereafter.” (Ar-Room: 7).
The above are some of the characteristics of the disbelieving (Kaafir) societies and their immoral cites.
Today, dear Muslims, the disbelieving (Kaafir) world is exporting its woes to the Islamic world by attempting to deprive Muslims of their identity and forcing them into subjection in matters of faith, intellectual, social and moral affairs.
Allaah says what translates as, “They wish that you reject faith as they have rejected (faith) and thus that you all become equal (like one mother).” (An-Nisaa’: 89)
He also says what translates as: “Should they gain upper hand over you, they would behave to you as enemies and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you with evil and they desire that you should disbelieve.” (Al-Mumtahinah: 2).
They will never cease pursuing this vicious goal with all their efforts. Allaah says what translates as, “And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion if they can.” (Al-Baqarah: 217).
The hearts of disbelievers are full of hatred and fear for you and it is these that spur them to fight Islaam and attempt to eliminate it. Allaah says what translates as, “They intend to put out the Light of Allaah with their mouths. But Allaah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate (it).” (As-Saff:8).
One of these enemies said: “When the Qur’aan and the cities of Makkah and Al-Madeenah are wiped out of Arabia, it is then that we can see an Arab man gradually adopt western culture, far from Muhammad and his book.” Such is their evil plan and what their hearts conceal.
Fellow Muslims! The enemies of Islaam have amassed whatever they can of different types of invention in order to fight this Deen (religion) and its adherents and to conquer them ideologically and intellectually. Their action says: “A cup of alcohol and a songsters can do to Muslims more than what a thousand machine guns can do, therefore, plunge them into the depth of materialism and lusts.” These enemies lay siege on Muslim countries through mass media and modern technology and attack them through devilish and lustful satellite channels, which ruin morality and chastity. They aim at destroying our youths, by arousing their passion and spreading immorality within their ranks, making them thereby searching for all possible way to satiate their already aroused lust. The Muslim woman is also not safe from this devilish plan. They wage war against her Hijaab (i.e. covering of the Muslim woman’s body and head) and they strive to deceive her through those repulsive fashion houses, they encourage her to mix freely with men, making thereby ignominy and distress her lot.
There are also misleading call upon Muslims to visit countries of disbelievers and spend their leisure time there. The purpose of these calls is to deceive Muslims and expose them to things that can damage their morality and religion. It is therefore unfortunate that some Muslims, in spite of all these obvious dangers, travel to these countries with their wives and children in order to be regarded as cultured and civilized people.
Brothers in faith! No one can avoid these trials and destructive situation except by strictly and sincerely adhering to the Book of Allaah and Sunnah of His Prophet.
Brothers in Islaam! How can the Muslim nation voluntarily go to those who fight her? How can she happily surrender to him who wants to butcher her? Who can she emulate her enemy in his manners, understanding and thoughts? Who can she turn away from Islaamic teachings and start emulating the Kuffaar? Surely, real loss and destruction lie in following the disbelievers and sinful people. Allaah says what translates as, “O you who believe! If you obey those who disbelieve, they will send you back on your heels, and you will turn back (from faith) as losers.” (Aal-’Imraan: 149).
Fellow Muslims! Islaam does not forbid taking the useful of modern inventions and technology. It only rejects its negative aspects.
Dear brothers! What is the benefit of a civilization in which man’s standard falls and he himself degenerates so much so that he worships other beside Allaah, that he becomes a slave of his money, lust and desire thereby falling into misery and decay. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “Wretched is the slave of gold coins, wretched is the slave of silver coins; wretched is the slave of money and luxurious clothes. If he is given of these things he is pleased but is he is denied them, he becomes displeased. Let such a person perish and relapse and if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him.” (Bukhaari).
It is actually sad to see some of our tribesmen who speak our language act as middlemen for the west over-praising it and calling to its emulation. These are callers to destruction, error and westernization.
They are callers at the door of hell; whoever answers them, they cast him into Hell-Fire. These people call to emulating the west as if they are ignorant of the cries made by west’s intellectuals themselves warning of the danger of this soul-less civilization and calling unto reforming and salvaging it before it is too late. Allaah says what translates as, “And when it is said to them, ‘make not mischief on the earth’, they say, ‘we are only peacemakers’. Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.” (Al-Baqarah: 11-12).
Brothers in Faith! It is incumbent on all Muslims, to know the foundations of this civilization and acquaint themselves with its goals, objectives, harms and all things that relates to it. If not, repugnant customs and manners and un-Islamic habits that are products of enemies of Islaam will creep in and establish themselves in Muslim societies and homes. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “The most detestable to Allaah of all people are three: the one who causes transgression in the Sacred Mosque, the one who introduces to Islaam a custom of the time of ignorance and the seeker after someone’s blood in order to shed it with no just cause.” (Bukhaari).
Dear Muslims! You are a community that possesses a divine law that guarantees for those who hold fast unto if perpetual bliss, progress and development. It is a law that illuminates the darkness and it is ‘a Light upon Light’.
Islaam is the only religion capable of salvaging mankind from its misery and despair it is the only guarantor of its happiness.
“Our religion is] the religion of Allaah (Islaam) and which religion can be better than Allaah’s? And we are His worshippers.” (Al-Baqarah: 138).
Be therefore proud of your religion and beware of corruption and falling into Hell. Protect yourselves and your families, take refuge with Allaah from things that scares you, use your God-given wisdom to ponder over the consequences of your deeds and prevent these trials and temptations by being careful, for Satan’s arrows are penetrating. The heart gets affected with powerful harm as eyes get irritated with a small particle.
Fellow Muslims! The Prophet has taught as knowledge by which we can get guidance during trials. He sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said about the trial of Dajjaal (anti-Christ): “Whoever hears of him should keep away from him. By Allaah! A man may meet him, assuming himself a believer and yet follow him (the anti-Christ) as a result of the evidences that he will show.” (Aboo Daawood and others).
Allaah says what translates as, “O you who believe! Ward from yourselves and your families a Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stone, over which are (appointed) angels stern and severe, who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allaah, but do that which they are Commanded.” (At-Tahreem: 6).
Brothers in Islaam! Fear Allaah, be conscious of Him and do not disobey Him. “O you who believe! Be afraid of Allaah and be with those who are true (in words and deeds)” (At-Tawbah: 119).
Brothers in Faith! Indeed, every Muslim who is concerned about his religion will feel a great pain when he sees that Muslims are being influenced by Zionist and Christian attacks and the pain becomes greater when one notices that the effect of that attack is increasing every day. Such is Allaah’s decree upon His slaves. He says what translates as: “And surely, We shall try you till We test those who strive hard (for the cause of Allaah) and the patient ones, and We shall test your facts.” (Muhammad: 31).
Dear Brothers! It is by test and examination that treasures are distinguished. It is during severe wars that proud and lofty minds become distinct from lowly ones. People are like treasure, some are precious jewels while some are just valueless metals; some are like healthy and fertile land that produces good plants and pure profits while some are just like bad dung that wastes its seed and destroys its crops.
Fear Allah, reform yourselves and adhere to the worship of your Lord. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “Worshipping Allaah during the time of commotion and disorder is like making a Hijrah to me (in reward).” (Muslim).
O Muslim youths! Rise up your heads and be proud of your religion. Do not imitate the disbelievers in their repulsive habits, traditions. Beware of evil aspects of this civilization. Allaah says what translates as, “Say (to idolaters and unbelievers): ‘O disbelievers! I worship not that which you worship. Nor will you worship that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which you worship. Nor will you worship that which I worship. To you belong your religion, and to me my religion. (Islamic monotheism).’” (Al-Kaafiroon: 1-6).
From: (2108)-Falsity of western civilization(1)


Muslim’s Position Towards Western Civilization

 

[Avatar4321]

They want political power. Pretty simple.

 

[Tank]

Because Muslims hate non-Muslims

 

[007]

Because Muslims hate non-Muslims

End of story.

 

[Flopper]

Had our intrusion into the Arab world been limited to the Israeli issue, our relations would have improved with time.

I don't believe that for a second. They hate the Jews more than anything else I know of, and they need to grow up and get over it.

As for oil- I'd love to be energy independent, but you and I both know that this isn't going to happen at any point in the near future. If it wasn't the Jews, and it wasn't the oil, it would be something else.

To the contrary, conflicts between Jews and Muslims is a fairly recent event. The defining moment was the establishment of the state of Israel.

The relationship between Islam and Judaism is a special and close one. The two religions share similar values. Islam incorporates Jewish history as a part of its own. Muslims regard the Children of Israel as a central religious concept in Islam. Moses is mentioned in the Qur’an more than any other prophet.There are forty-three references to Israelites in the Quran, and many in the Hadith. Jews in turn see Muslims as perfect monotheists and as adherents of the Seven Laws of Noah. Thus according to Judaism, Muslims are seen as righteous people of God. The historical interaction of Judaism and Islam started in the 7th century AD with the origin and spread of Islam in the Arabian peninsula.

Although there have been conflicts through the ages, relationships between Judaism and Islam has been a fairly peaceful one.

Islam and Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Charles_Main]

Because Muslims hate non-Muslims

End of story.

Nah they get along with the...Hindus er no sorry, the Christians er no sorry I mean the Jews er no lol. Well I guess they at least treat Africans of other faiths well, Oh wait no they don't sorry.

Sorry my bad You are correct.

 

[Ringel05]

Had our intrusion into the Arab world been limited to the Israeli issue, our relations would have improved with time.

I don't believe that for a second. They hate the Jews more than anything else I know of, and they need to grow up and get over it.

As for oil- I'd love to be energy independent, but you and I both know that this isn't going to happen at any point in the near future. If it wasn't the Jews, and it wasn't the oil, it would be something else.

To the contrary, conflicts between Jews and Muslims is a fairly recent event. The defining moment was the establishment of the state of Israel.

The relationship between Islam and Judaism is a special and close one. The two religions share similar values. Islam incorporates Jewish history as a part of its own. Muslims regard the Children of Israel as a central religious concept in Islam. Moses is mentioned in the Qur’an more than any other prophet.There are forty-three references to Israelites in the Quran, and many in the Hadith. Jews in turn see Muslims as perfect monotheists and as adherents of the Seven Laws of Noah. Thus according to Judaism, Muslims are seen as righteous people of God. The historical interaction of Judaism and Islam started in the 7th century AD with the origin and spread of Islam in the Arabian peninsula.

Although there have been conflicts through the ages, relationships between Judaism and Islam has been a fairly peaceful one.

Islam and Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

True, but still an interesting misdirection and smoke screen just the same.

 

[blastoff]

We're infidels.

They die trying to kill us and they get 72 incredibly ugly and extremely foul smelling virgins to do with what they want for eternity. And they see that as a pretty good deal considering day to day life in their cultures.

 

[WillowTree]

Granted they are religious fanatics but it goes much deeper than that.

The basis for most all the problems we have with the Muslim world boils down two things, support for Israel and Oil. We are not hated because of who we are, but rather for what we do. Our ventures into the Middle East have been costly both in dollars and human lives. Had our intrusion into the Arab world been limited to the Israeli issue, our relations would have improved with time. Our actions to keep oil flowing to the west and out of the hands of Russia clearly made us the enemy to many Muslims.

First we instigated a government overflow in 1953 in Iran putting the Shaw in power. For 25 years we supported a dictatorship in Iran giving them 1.2 billion dollars to keep the oil flowing to the west until the people of Iran revolted and put the Ayatollah in power.

We then helped Saddam Hussein in the war against Iran. Then we turned on Saddam and attacked when he threatens the flow oil by invading Kuwait. Tens years later we attacked Iraq again because they had WMDs which turned out to be bogus. During the war we killed over 100,000 civilians and embarrass ourselves with the Abagrave prison scandal and the lack of evidence of WMDs.

In Afghanistan, we supported the Afghans against Russia to prevent Russian from controlling a proposed oil pipeline across Afghanistan. Then we walked out of Afghanistan leaving it to the Taliban. Today we are fighting against those that we previously supported.

In Guantanamo, we hold hundreds of accused terrorist without trial, which is contrary to our claims we make about American justice.

During this entire foreign policy debacle, we bought off the Saudi royal family with arms deals and defense agreements, which has alienates them and us in the Middle East.

If you want to know why Islamic terrorist attack us, you need only to look at 60 years of American foreign policy in the Middle East which has been a disaster. The solution is painful but very simple. GET THE HELL OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST BY BECOMING ENERGY INDEPENDENT.

Iran ? United States relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Soviet war in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Guantanamo Bay detention camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When we get the HELL outta the middle east (muslim lands) are we going to play fair and get them the hell off ours? If we do I'll vote for you otherwise sit down and stfu you terrorist sympathizer.

 

[johnrocks]

WOW that was right out of Obama's playbook. Did they email that to you today?

Sounds like it was right out of an "old right" conservative playbook to me prior to the ex Democratic neo con invasion into the GOP.

 

[lizzie]

Had our intrusion into the Arab world been limited to the Israeli issue, our relations would have improved with time.

I don't believe that for a second. They hate the Jews more than anything else I know of, and they need to grow up and get over it.

As for oil- I'd love to be energy independent, but you and I both know that this isn't going to happen at any point in the near future. If it wasn't the Jews, and it wasn't the oil, it would be something else.

To the contrary, conflicts between Jews and Muslims is a fairly recent event. The defining moment was the establishment of the state of Israel.

It doesn't matter how recent it is, and I don't recall saying anything about this being an ancient issue. They hate the Jews, and call for extinction of the Jewish people and the state of Israel. If they hate the US for being friends with Israel, then they are acting like school yard children.

 

[Flopper]

Al Qaeda Islamic terror attacks against America are motivated not by a hatred of American culture and religion but by the belief that U.S. foreign policy is a threat to Islam. Over the last 60 years, we have engaged in 3 major wars in the these countries, conducted countless clandestine ventures, supported dictators, bought off heads of government, and killed thousands of innocents people to support these policies.

The cost to the US has been very high. We have had tens of thousand killed and wounded. We spent trillions upon trillions of dollars. And how has benefited us? We have put ourselves in the cross hairs of every two bit terrorist organization in the world. We have stomped all over the Constitution in an attempt turn the country into an impregnable fortress. And finally, we have made it possible for the US to continue it's dependence on Arab oil.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Why?

Well, they don't like our foreign policy, and they do have a nasty hate against the West, not just America..

It's pretty simple.

One thing though.. Even if we didn't have our troops around the Middle East do you really think for a second they still wouldn't have attacked us?

 

[Kalam]

Why?

Well, they don't like our foreign policy, and they do have a nasty hate against the West, not just America..

It's pretty simple.

One thing though.. Even if we didn't have our troops around the Middle East do you really think for a second they still wouldn't have attacked us?

Yes. If America did not have a military presence in the Middle East and did not have a history of interference or supporting corrupt regimes and Israel, I can absolutely assure you that the attacks would not have occurred. It would probably have been Israel or Russia.

 

[syrenn]

Al Qaeda Islamic terror attacks against America are motivated not by a hatred of American culture and religion but by the belief that U.S. foreign policy is a threat to Islam. Over the last 60 years, we have engaged in 3 major wars in the these countries, conducted countless clandestine ventures, supported dictators, bought off heads of government, and killed thousands of innocents people to support these policies.

The cost to the US has been very high. We have had tens of thousand killed and wounded. We spent trillions upon trillions of dollars. And how has benefited us? We have put ourselves in the cross hairs of every two bit terrorist organization in the world. We have stomped all over the Constitution in an attempt turn the country into an impregnable fortress. And finally, we have made it possible for the US to continue it's dependence on Arab oil.

How blind are you?

ANYTHING that they think of as a threat to islam will be killed. That is not just American foreign policy. It is anyone who thinks for themselves. Anyone how is not a muslim. Anyone who speaks out against them.

Anything that does not follow islam is a threat.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Why?

Well, they don't like our foreign policy, and they do have a nasty hate against the West, not just America..

It's pretty simple.

One thing though.. Even if we didn't have our troops around the Middle East do you really think for a second they still wouldn't have attacked us?

Yes. If America did not have a military presence in the Middle East and did not have a history of interference or supporting corrupt regimes and Israel, I can absolutely assure you that the attacks would not have occurred. It would probably have been Israel or Russia.

It's a debatable subject. nonetheless, I still think they would have attacked. Why? Probably because of our Relation with Israel.

 

[Kalam]

Why?

Well, they don't like our foreign policy, and they do have a nasty hate against the West, not just America..

It's pretty simple.

One thing though.. Even if we didn't have our troops around the Middle East do you really think for a second they still wouldn't have attacked us?

Yes. If America did not have a military presence in the Middle East and did not have a history of interference or supporting corrupt regimes and Israel, I can absolutely assure you that the attacks would not have occurred. It would probably have been Israel or Russia.

It's a debatable subject. nonetheless, I still think they would have attacked. Why? Probably because of our Relation with Israel.

That's why I made sure to mention it.