And, by the way, the Federal government prolonged slavery

I think you'll find many freedmen in the New England States and in many Mid-Atlantic States prior to the war.
Many of these people served in the war. They freely chose to do so.
 
Uh, many became free after being runaways.
Where did all the free blacks originate in the non-slave states?
With Emancipation blacks could join the Army and the Navy and they did.
Perhaps you refer to the sticky point of allowing hunters to find runaways and to return them to their owners in free states.
This then goes to the dominance of the South in Congress for many decades.
Once those states left the Union, things changed.

200,000 blacks served the Union in the Civil War. Weren't they free?
 
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The federal government prolonged slavery

By refusing to allow free states to make free men of runaway slaves.


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Many have assumed that Lincoln came to the Emancipation because he grew in the office. Actually Lincoln had a well thought out plan for emancipation when he arrived in Washington in March 1861 for his innaguration. His plan was a program of gradualism in which the states would be induced to emancipate slaves through a system of compensation to be financed by Fedral bonds. He was willing to accept a gradual emancipation if the states would agree to emancipation as the eventual outcome. Those who would criticze this approach need to remember that under the Constitution, slavery was a state matter and the Federal Government had no Constitutional authority to interfere. This was Lincoln's most important goal for his administration. After the Conderates chose to suceed, he began to persue this approach, focusing on Deleware, the borde state where slavery was the weakest. He met with Deleware politicans and bills were put before both houses of the legislature. [Guelzo, LEP.]
the American Civil War -- Emancipation
 
Uh, many became free after being runaways.
Where did all the free blacks originate in the non-slave states?
With Emancipation blacks could join the Army and the Navy and they did.
Perhaps you refer to the sticky point of allowing hunters to find runaways and to return them to their owners in free states.
This then goes to the dominance of the South in Congress for many decades.
Once those states left the Union, things changed.

200,000 blacks served the Union in the Civil War. Weren't they free?

Many? Really? How many? What's your source of info that "many" freedmen were once runaway slaves?

Where did all the free blacks originate from? Seriously? Holy God in Heaven, WHAT are they teaching in schools? :eusa_pray: Do you really think that running away was the only way for a slave to become free? Or that there weren't black people who came to the US in the antebellum period who had never been slaves? Shockingly, there WERE lots of non-slave black people in the world, and a few of them DID see the same sort of opportunity in a wide-open new area that white people did.

The vast majority of free blacks in the antebellum US were freed by their owners, either by provision in the owners' wills when they died, or in the cases of Maryland and Delaware in particular, when the economy of the North changed so much that slave-owning became impractical. And, of course, as each individual state abolished slavery, those slaves became free.

As for the federal government perpetuating slavery, it wasn't just slave-hunting. Consider, if you will, the Dred Scott decision, which not only put the kibosh on the idea of slaves becoming free simply by being in non-slave states, but also put the freedom of already-free blacks into possible jeopardy, because it stated that blacks could not be citizens.

I haven't a clue what the rest of your post has to do with anything. The fact remains that the federal government DID perpetuate slavery.
 
I just discovered my typing error. Over 20,000 blacks (11% of black pop.) fought for the North. Sorry.
 
The federal government prolonged slavery

By refusing to allow free states to make free men of runaway slaves.


excerpt
Many have assumed that Lincoln came to the Emancipation because he grew in the office. Actually Lincoln had a well thought out plan for emancipation when he arrived in Washington in March 1861 for his innaguration. His plan was a program of gradualism in which the states would be induced to emancipate slaves through a system of compensation to be financed by Fedral bonds. He was willing to accept a gradual emancipation if the states would agree to emancipation as the eventual outcome. Those who would criticze this approach need to remember that under the Constitution, slavery was a state matter and the Federal Government had no Constitutional authority to interfere. This was Lincoln's most important goal for his administration. After the Conderates chose to suceed, he began to persue this approach, focusing on Deleware, the borde state where slavery was the weakest. He met with Deleware politicans and bills were put before both houses of the legislature. [Guelzo, LEP.]
the American Civil War -- Emancipation

Actually, Lincoln supported in his first Inaugural Address an amendment to the Constitution to make slavery permanent where it already existed. Some say he even wrote the amendment himself, though I've never seen it confirmed.
 
Read up on Bloody Kansas.
By the way it is Bleeding Kansas!
and yes Lincoln discouraged slaves running away to the north due to commerce reasons and keeping the peace. Bleeding Kansas had to do with Kansas becoming a Free State, it was split in half before the event with Kansas having two capitals.
 
Lincoln discouraged slaves running away to the north because he was a racist and didn't want them taking jobs from white people.
 
Lincoln discouraged slaves running away to the north because he was a racist and didn't want them taking jobs from white people.

which is another reason they say he made it illegal in the north even though in most northern states it never really caught on with people only having a few house slaves. The north was becoming industrialized and if you have legal slavery you also have legal cheap labor so by making it legal in the north one would probably hire a white worker over a black worker.
 
Read up on Bloody Kansas.

Um, who? And why?

because you should know the history of your country. Another interesting thing about Bleeding Kansas, is popular sovereignty where state entering the union could vote to whether or not they would allow slavery. Where else of we seen people voting on rights that pretain to another group of people?:eek::lol:
 
Lincoln discouraged slaves running away to the north because he was a racist and didn't want them taking jobs from white people.

which is another reason they say he made it illegal in the north even though in most northern states it never really caught on with people only having a few house slaves. The north was becoming industrialized and if you have legal slavery you also have legal cheap labor so by making it legal in the north one would probably hire a white worker over a black worker.

Lincoln did not make slavery illegal in the north. There were 4 slave holding states that remained with the union during the civil war. Their slaves were exempt from the Emancipation Proclamation as were slaves is southern territory already under northern control. Those slaves were not freed until AFTER the civil war.
 
Lincoln discouraged slaves running away to the north because he was a racist and didn't want them taking jobs from white people.

which is another reason they say he made it illegal in the north even though in most northern states it never really caught on with people only having a few house slaves. The north was becoming industrialized and if you have legal slavery you also have legal cheap labor so by making it legal in the north one would probably hire a white worker over a black worker.

Lincoln did not make slavery illegal in the north. There were 4 slave holding states that remained with the union during the civil war. Their slaves were exempt from the Emancipation Proclamation as were slaves is southern territory already under northern control. Those slaves were not freed until AFTER the civil war.
they were border states that did not succeed but did not completly back the union with Lincoln declaring Marshal law in most. Also Maryland and Missouri abolished slavery before the war was over and the other were either going to or had freed most slaves already.
 
which is another reason they say he made it illegal in the north even though in most northern states it never really caught on with people only having a few house slaves. The north was becoming industrialized and if you have legal slavery you also have legal cheap labor so by making it legal in the north one would probably hire a white worker over a black worker.

Lincoln did not make slavery illegal in the north. There were 4 slave holding states that remained with the union during the civil war. Their slaves were exempt from the Emancipation Proclamation as were slaves is southern territory already under northern control. Those slaves were not freed until AFTER the civil war.
they were border states that did not succeed but did not completly back the union with Lincoln declaring Marshal law in most. Also Maryland and Missouri abolished slavery before the war was over and the other were either going to or had freed most slaves already.

They were not all border states, only two were border states. I can't remember right now, but either Delaware or Rhode Island was both the first and the last state to outlaw slavery. That's right, the first state to outlaw slavery, quickly discovered it was an economic disaster and reinstated it and didn't outlaw it until AFTER the civil war and they were not a border state.
 
Lincoln did not make slavery illegal in the north. There were 4 slave holding states that remained with the union during the civil war. Their slaves were exempt from the Emancipation Proclamation as were slaves is southern territory already under northern control. Those slaves were not freed until AFTER the civil war.
they were border states that did not succeed but did not completly back the union with Lincoln declaring Marshal law in most. Also Maryland and Missouri abolished slavery before the war was over and the other were either going to or had freed most slaves already.

They were not all border states, only two were border states. I can't remember right now, but either Delaware or Rhode Island was both the first and the last state to outlaw slavery. That's right, the first state to outlaw slavery, quickly discovered it was an economic disaster and reinstated it and didn't outlaw it until AFTER the civil war and they were not a border state.
they were Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delware, all border states.
 
they were border states that did not succeed but did not completly back the union with Lincoln declaring Marshal law in most. Also Maryland and Missouri abolished slavery before the war was over and the other were either going to or had freed most slaves already.

They were not all border states, only two were border states. I can't remember right now, but either Delaware or Rhode Island was both the first and the last state to outlaw slavery. That's right, the first state to outlaw slavery, quickly discovered it was an economic disaster and reinstated it and didn't outlaw it until AFTER the civil war and they were not a border state.
they were Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delware, all border states.

How is Delaware a border state?
 
Read up on Bloody Kansas.

Um, who? And why?

because you should know the history of your country. Another interesting thing about Bleeding Kansas, is popular sovereignty where state entering the union could vote to whether or not they would allow slavery. Where else of we seen people voting on rights that pretain to another group of people?:eek::lol:

I not only didn't ask you, but the question you answered wasn't the one I was asking.
 

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