An Intransigent President

[Two Thumbs]

Are you aware that most Americans get that the Tea Party and R's are at fault in this debacle, and your lot has merrily thrown away 2012 with both hands?

No, we don't get it because it's utter bullshit... just like Barry's claim that 80% of Americans want their taxes raised. It's all a lie.

I'll need a link to your allegation of the president's claim.

Obama: 80% of the people want some tax hikes « Hot Air

Barack Obama tried to claim ownership of the mighty middle in today’s press conference while casting opposition on both ends as extreme. In response to a question from Chuck Todd, Obama said that 80% of Americans support his “balanced approach” to deficit reduction and the debt-ceiling increase. But is this really true? Via RCP:

There's a video at the link.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Conservatives are opposed to any raise in revenue.

Taxes stupid, they are called "taxes."

 

[WillowTree]

He's not even touching my challenge to show Constitutional prohibitions on General Welfare, even though I "double dog dared" him.

Rottweiller indeed.

But at least he's polite. Thus far.

have you ever met a rightwingnut who doesn't pick and choose what parts of the constitution they like?

guns ... good...

general welfare... bad... so must be ignored...

is he polite? well, that's something....

No surprise, since they do the same thing with the Bible. "Sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor?" That cannot POSSIBLY mean what it says!!

have you done it? if not you're still a chickenshit.

 

[Sallow]

Conservatives are opposed to any raise in revenue.

Taxes stupid, they are called "taxes."

The government gets revenue from Taxes stupid.

It's in the constitution.

Try reading it sometime.

Stupid poopy head.

 

[Two Thumbs]

He's not even touching my challenge to show Constitutional prohibitions on General Welfare, even though I "double dog dared" him.

Rottweiller indeed.

But at least he's polite. Thus far.

have you ever met a rightwingnut who doesn't pick and choose what parts of the constitution they like?

guns ... good...

general welfare... bad... so must be ignored...

is he polite? well, that's something....

"Arms" is made very clear and it specific.

general welfare is so vague, that "for the general welfare" we are suspending elections, could be done.

It was never meant to be cart blanche for vast amounts of power and control.

Besides to liberals

guns = bad and should be heavily regulated

 

[Sallow]

No, if you add all the social programs they are the most expensive.
You add Pensions,Health Care and Welfare,they are by far the most expensive.
Once again, that is what our constitution says that government is suppose to be doing. Defense and veteran entitlements.

Then why aren't veteran entitlements scored as military spending? Eh?

When you add all of defense and veterans entitlements it comes to 1.415 trillion dollars.
When you add all of the Social programs it comes to 2.154 trillion dollars.
We are suppose to have benefits for our veterans. Ever since this nation started we had retirement pay for our veterans .
It is the social programs that are costing us way to much.

Link?

And where in the constitution is that authorized? Pensions..or anything for the military?

The navy is meant to be a permanent fixture..the ground forces get voted on every two years. The army is drawn from the milita and it meant to be entirely voluntary..which means no pay.

We weren't meant to have a professional military.

In fact..it was disbanded after the revolution.

 

[Sallow]

He's not even touching my challenge to show Constitutional prohibitions on General Welfare, even though I "double dog dared" him.

Rottweiller indeed.

But at least he's polite. Thus far.

have you ever met a rightwingnut who doesn't pick and choose what parts of the constitution they like?

guns ... good...

general welfare... bad... so must be ignored...

is he polite? well, that's something....

"Arms" is made very clear and it specific.

general welfare is so vague, that "for the general welfare" we are suspending elections, could be done.

It was never meant to be cart blanche for vast amounts of power and control.

Besides to liberals

guns = bad and should be heavily regulated

Yeah..arms could mean anything.

So were are the gun nuts on the keeping of Blackjacks, switchblades, brass knuckles, RPGs, thermal nuclear devices..or anything else outlawed for civilian use?

Eh?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Sallow,
Social Security is the most expensive.
General Welfare does not mean socialism. You have been brainwashed by the liberals.

Wouldn't "brainwashing" Shallow be a lot like giving a unicorn a bath?

 

[Sallow]

Sallow,
Social Security is the most expensive.
General Welfare does not mean socialism. You have been brainwashed by the liberals.

Wouldn't "brainwashing" Shallow be a lot like giving a unicorn a bath?

That makes no sense.

But you seldom make sense.

 

[Dot Com]

American Spectator? Aren't they the mag that oxyRush Limbough was hawking on his am radio show? They're on par w/ NewsMax (who were selling Paylin's book for 6.97 ;-)

 

[Two Thumbs]

Then why aren't veteran entitlements scored as military spending? Eh?

When you add all of defense and veterans entitlements it comes to 1.415 trillion dollars.
When you add all of the Social programs it comes to 2.154 trillion dollars.
We are suppose to have benefits for our veterans. Ever since this nation started we had retirement pay for our veterans .
It is the social programs that are costing us way to much.

Link?

And where in the constitution is that authorized? Pensions..or anything for the military?

The navy is meant to be a permanent fixture..the ground forces get voted on every two years. The army is drawn from the milita and it meant to be entirely voluntary..which means no pay.

We weren't meant to have a professional military.

In fact..it was disbanded after the revolution.

Volunteering does not mean you don't get paid.

No one would have if they couldn't feed thier families.

 

[Two Thumbs]

have you ever met a rightwingnut who doesn't pick and choose what parts of the constitution they like?

guns ... good...

general welfare... bad... so must be ignored...

is he polite? well, that's something....

"Arms" is made very clear and it specific.

general welfare is so vague, that "for the general welfare" we are suspending elections, could be done.

It was never meant to be cart blanche for vast amounts of power and control.

Besides to liberals

guns = bad and should be heavily regulated

Yeah..arms could mean anything.

So were are the gun nuts on the keeping of Blackjacks, switchblades, brass knuckles, RPGs, thermal nuclear devices..or anything else outlawed for civilian use?

Eh?

You should be allowed to have all such things.

If I recall Ben Franklin, the population was supposed to have access to the same weapons as the military just incase we were taken over by a tyrant that would use the military against us.

Seriously. Who's going to rob someone that 'may' be heavily armed and armored?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Sallow,
Social Security is the most expensive.
General Welfare does not mean socialism. You have been brainwashed by the liberals.

Wouldn't "brainwashing" Shallow be a lot like giving a unicorn a bath?

That makes no sense.

But you seldom make sense.

It was still funny though.

 

[peach174]

Then why aren't veteran entitlements scored as military spending? Eh?

When you add all of defense and veterans entitlements it comes to 1.415 trillion dollars.
When you add all of the Social programs it comes to 2.154 trillion dollars.
We are suppose to have benefits for our veterans. Ever since this nation started we had retirement pay for our veterans .
It is the social programs that are costing us way to much.

Link?

And where in the constitution is that authorized? Pensions..or anything for the military?

The navy is meant to be a permanent fixture..the ground forces get voted on every two years. The army is drawn from the militia and it meant to be entirely voluntary..which means no pay.

We weren't meant to have a professional military.

In fact..it was disbanded after the revolution.

Link for all military spending;
Military budget of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Link for All social programs;


And this one for their pensions;
During and after the Revolutionary War, the U.S. Congress set the precedent for federal assistance to Revolutionary War veterans by approving four types of pensions - disability pensions to soldiers disabled in the line of duty; service pensions to veterans serving for specified periods of time; widows' and dependent pensions to dependents of men who died in the war; and assistance pensions to all who served in war and were in need of financial assistance.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No it doesn't.

What are you insane?

Most of them pay nothing in taxes. Quite a few of them get MONEY BACK from the government.

Holy shit.

Do you honestly believe the idiotic demagoguery you spout? Seriously?

Look, I understand that you're a mindless hack who blindly repeats the hate speech from HuffingPo and DailyKOS - but fuck do you ever expose your stupidity.

No one pays taxes in your little Marxist fantasy - all the evil capitalists bathe in gold coins.

General Electric showed a loss in 2008 and 2009 - now I realize you don't really comprehend how a wheel works, much less how taxes work. But taxes are on INCOME (can you say "income?" Didn't think so, you stupid little shit!) When a company has no INCOME, then they pay no taxes. In an act of corruption, the democrats in 2009 extended the ability to use NLCF - net loss carry forward retroactively - this was payment to GE for the work of the correct press at MSNBC campaigning for Obama. New Law Extends Net Operating Loss Carryback for Small Businesses; IRS To Ensure Refunds Paid Timely

SO, that corrupt fascist cocksucker Obama hands GE $140 billion from taxpayers pockets - BUT it's off books so GE STILL reports an operating loss. MSNBC Rewarded For Obama Support With GE Bailout Money « Waste Of My Oxygen With the new law the shit sucking corrupt dems put in place, GE can extend the non-existent loss over 5 years and escape taxation.

NOW pay attention, stupid fuck - here's where your cell leaders stop talking - EVEN the corrupt fucks at Obama's General Electric can only avoid taxes for a short period. These operating loss games are extremely limited in duration - generally a year or two. Your claim that "most business pays nothing in taxes" is fucking retardation, the kind of idiocy only demagogue fascist would spout. You spout it because you're too fucking stupid to know better - but your rulers feed you this shit with the full intent to deceive.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The government gets revenue from Taxes stupid.

The federal government gets revenue from dozens of sources, shit fer brains. Including import duties, access fees, leases and even patents held by the US Government.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That makes no sense.

That's because you're stupid - really!

You can't give a unicorn a bath, Shallow - because unicorns don't exist. You can't be brainwashed. Shallow - because your brain doesn't exist.

 

[Dot Com]

ANOTHER rightie, whine-fest thread? Geez!

 

[Uncensored2008]

ANOTHER rightie, whine-fest thread? Geez!

Another trouncing of the mindless left.

I feel your pain, Scheiß Maus.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Democrats just love Big Government and want it to be much much bigger. Their position isn't very surprising. It's just too bad the Republican Party became Democrat-Light for so many years. Big Government Republicans are just as bad as Big Government Democrats. The Establishment MSM still calls George Bush a "Conservative." Yet the man was not a Conservative. He was a Big Government Neo-Con Republican. I agree with this OP's take. The Establishment MSM is in bed with the Big Government stooges in both Parties. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is immediately branded "Crazy" and "Extreme." In my opinion,Crazy & Extreme is what the Big Government stooges did to our Country. They're the cause of all our terrible problems. The MSM should approach it that way. The People with new ideas aren't to blame. We need to change the Establishment MSM and Government. And there's nothing "Crazy" or "Extreme" about that.