An Honest Question for the Right and the Left, and ALL Others in the Middle:

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Robin Williams, at least he would be entertaining.
Cause the president is not what makes the difference, it is the Congress and we are screwed there for a min of 12 years.

so few people understand just how little the POTUS actually controls

Then why all the hate for Obama?

Cuz unlike your joke self, we don't buy into every lie, broken campaign promise, distortion, revision, denial, authoritarian socialistic BS, and weak move that comes outta his White House.

We actually care for sane fiscal policy, FAIR/FLAT taxes, a *gasp* STRONG foreign policy, etc.

I'll leave you to mull thru your fantasy world mirror now.

 

[DiveCon]

Robin Williams, at least he would be entertaining.
Cause the president is not what makes the difference, it is the Congress and we are screwed there for a min of 12 years.

so few people understand just how little the POTUS actually controls

Then why all the hate for Obama?

who says i hate him?

 

[Avatar4321]

Then why all the hate for Obama?

I know you hate people who disagree with you. But most people don't think that way. We don't hate Obama. We hate the policies he has been forcing on this nation. We feel a moral obligation to speak out against bad policies. Especially when they are going to destroy lives and families.

The current administration is printing more money to pay off debt. This is not only a bad idea, it's a dangerous one. Governments who do this this suffer from inflation and often hyper inflation. The people aren't prepared for that. Yet we know that in the next few months food, clothes, health care, and energy prices are scheduled to all go up significantly.

It has nothing to do with hate for Obama. It has everything to do with love for our lives, our families lives, our friends, our liberty, our faith.

God is working in the hearts of many of the people and preparing them for what's to come so that we might have joy even in the times of trial.

 

[Synthaholic]

Then why all the hate for Obama?

I know you hate people who disagree with you. But most people don't think that way. We don't hate Obama. We hate the policies he has been forcing on this nation.

But DiveCon just declared that the POTUS has little control.

So how can Obama force anything on the nation?

Or is DiveCon wrong?

 

[DiveCon]

Then why all the hate for Obama?

I know you hate people who disagree with you. But most people don't think that way. We don't hate Obama. We hate the policies he has been forcing on this nation.

But DiveCon just declared that the POTUS has little control.

So how can Obama force anything on the nation?

Or is DiveCon wrong?

most of what you see is not being done directly by Obama
but the dems in congress
of course that all changes now

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Since 2012 is creeping up on us now, I would like you to tell me who you would like to see as President in the next election and why.


Let's try and have some honest discussion here, and see if maybe, just maybe, someone, or even a few people, can inform others on who would be a good candidate for 2012.

The honest answer is that we exist in a plutocracy and your leaders will be chosen for you by the plutocracy.

Electronic voting is a fraud and Americans vote on systems one would expect in third world countries. There is more integrity in the election systems in Kenya than the United States .. which doesn't even come close to the systems in Brazil.

Your systems are fraudulent and your politicians are bought and paid for.

Therein lies the truth that Americans don't want to hear.

I don't know about the plutocracy and truthfully I dont really know what you mean, but I do have a good idea. But in away there is some truth to what you say. We are only allowed to vote for those who are picked by the political elite.

 

[Bones]

Since 2012 is creeping up on us now, I would like you to tell me who you would like to see as President in the next election and why.


Let's try and have some honest discussion here, and see if maybe, just maybe, someone, or even a few people, can inform others on who would be a good candidate for 2012.

Nobody. Fuck 'em.

If both parties go against what the citizenry actual wants or needs, then what's the point in electing these clowns who don't give two ripe shits about you? These elections that we have every four years are a joke. Your choices are: a corrupt puppet who pretends to be a liberal or a corrupt puppet who pretends to be conservative.

So, I repeat:

Fuck 'em.

 

[Douger]

It makes no difference.

 

[editec]

I wouldn't mind the job.

I've carefully reviewed my politics and find them much to my liking.

I figure, were I elected to that august office, I'd last about three weeks before I had an encounter with a magic bullet fired by a lone crazed gunman.

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[California Girl]

i dont have a name....cause i dont think this person exist yet.....but someone who is a STRONG leader....something this Country needs DESPERATLY....someone who puts COUNTRY over Party and Self.... and is not afraid to tell anyone in Congress who is in the way....TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY......someone who will rally the people to COME TOGETHER..not divide them .....make this Country Business friendly and start rallying the people with the money to start investing in the USA and get it back to where this Country produced the shit we used to produce......fuck China and India and the rest.....we dont need them....WE CAN DO IT....we did it once we can get those industries going again....when people are working and Companies cant keep up with their orders.....when people are TOGETHER and just about on the same page....WATCH OUT....theres no stopping us.....someday hopefully this person will show up....

For those very reasons, my ideal pick would be Colin Powell. He's smart, he's not overtly aligned with either party (both of which suck big time), and he is a natural leader. As a military guy, he puts country over everything except family.

I also like Christie but he's already said he will not run and, unlike Obama, I believe he's definite about that. NJ are lucky to have him.

I'd also love to see Condi Rice come back into politics. That woman is smarter than just about anyone in the political arena - including Obama.

 

[SFC Ollie]

i dont have a name....cause i dont think this person exist yet.....but someone who is a STRONG leader....something this Country needs DESPERATLY....someone who puts COUNTRY over Party and Self.... and is not afraid to tell anyone in Congress who is in the way....TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY......someone who will rally the people to COME TOGETHER..not divide them .....make this Country Business friendly and start rallying the people with the money to start investing in the USA and get it back to where this Country produced the shit we used to produce......fuck China and India and the rest.....we dont need them....WE CAN DO IT....we did it once we can get those industries going again....when people are working and Companies cant keep up with their orders.....when people are TOGETHER and just about on the same page....WATCH OUT....theres no stopping us.....someday hopefully this person will show up....

For those very reasons, my ideal pick would be Colin Powell. He's smart, he's not overtly aligned with either party (both of which suck big time), and he is a natural leader. As a military guy, he puts country over everything except family.

I also like Christie but he's already said he will not run and, unlike Obama, I believe he's definite about that. NJ are lucky to have him.

I'd also love to see Condi Rice come back into politics. That woman is smarter than just about anyone in the political arena - including Obama.

I agree with Condi, and up until 3 years ago I would have backed Colon Powell. But he proved himself to be a racist and I can not support him after that.

 

[goldcatt]

i dont have a name....cause i dont think this person exist yet.....but someone who is a STRONG leader....something this Country needs DESPERATLY....someone who puts COUNTRY over Party and Self.... and is not afraid to tell anyone in Congress who is in the way....TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY......someone who will rally the people to COME TOGETHER..not divide them .....make this Country Business friendly and start rallying the people with the money to start investing in the USA and get it back to where this Country produced the shit we used to produce......fuck China and India and the rest.....we dont need them....WE CAN DO IT....we did it once we can get those industries going again....when people are working and Companies cant keep up with their orders.....when people are TOGETHER and just about on the same page....WATCH OUT....theres no stopping us.....someday hopefully this person will show up....

For those very reasons, my ideal pick would be Colin Powell. He's smart, he's not overtly aligned with either party (both of which suck big time), and he is a natural leader. As a military guy, he puts country over everything except family.

I also like Christie but he's already said he will not run and, unlike Obama, I believe he's definite about that. NJ are lucky to have him.

I'd also love to see Condi Rice come back into politics. That woman is smarter than just about anyone in the political arena - including Obama.

I like Powell but I don't think he's cut out for the hot seat. Like it or not, that desk in the Oval comes with a game that has to be played to get anywhere. Powell showed he's not a game player in his dealings with the Condi/Rummy/Cheney faction. He allowed himself and his position to be marginalized, that's never a good indication of executive leadership.

I do think Condi's a brilliant person, but I disagree with her world view. IMO, she never quite made it out of the Cold War paradigm. She's far from the only one, but not somebody I'd be comfortable with in the position specifically tasked with running foreign policy. Depending on who she chose to surround herself with, she'd be better than most of the names being tossed around for the GOP though. At least she's no wedge issue warrior and does have a brain.

 

[MarcATL]

i cant stand both sides Marc.....and at one time i was leaning to the left....after posting here and seeing what Lefties like Dean and truth matters spew......it kinda pushed me back the other way.....those two are deranged and make the left look bad.....but then i seen the shit that Righties like Pubes and Namvet were spewing.....i dont need either party.... they both want Divisiveness and angst between the people.....screw them both.....

This is why I feel you're sincere. My only qualm with your stance is the false equivelancy aspect to it. Both sides are biased...that's a given, but only one side purposefully lies and repeats the lies as a unit for purpose of control. Only one side has tag words that trigger certain emotions and reactions. Only one side uses language to bludgeon all dissent...consistently and purposefully.

 

[WillowTree]

i cant stand both sides Marc.....and at one time i was leaning to the left....after posting here and seeing what Lefties like Dean and truth matters spew......it kinda pushed me back the other way.....those two are deranged and make the left look bad.....but then i seen the shit that Righties like Pubes and Namvet were spewing.....i dont need either party.... they both want Divisiveness and angst between the people.....screw them both.....

This is why I feel you're sincere. My only qualm with your stance is the false equivelancy aspect to it. Both sides are biased...that's a given, but only one side purposefully lies and repeats the lies as a unit for purpose of control. Only one side has tag words that trigger certain emotions and reactions. Only one side uses language to bludgeon all dissent...consistently and purposefully.

Damn son. You pegged the demonRats. I didn't know you had it in ya.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Better question that should be answered first. Why should anyone step up and declare. Give the bullshit and demonization that is carried out by the left?

LOL, now that's funny. I'm sure all agree your tolerant and honorable opposition to President Obama and the Democratic Party is an example the left should emulate.

 

[WillowTree]

Better question that should be answered first. Why should anyone step up and declare. Give the bullshit and demonization that is carried out by the left?

LOL, now that's funny. I'm sure all agree your tolerant and honorable opposition to President Obama and the Democratic Party is an example the left should emulate.

we treat him with the exact same level of civillity and respect as you did President Bush. It's what we promised and it's a promise we've kept. You don't like it? don't dish it. You reap what ya sow.

 

[Wry Catcher]

i dont have a name....cause i dont think this person exist yet.....but someone who is a STRONG leader....something this Country needs DESPERATLY....someone who puts COUNTRY over Party and Self.... and is not afraid to tell anyone in Congress who is in the way....TO GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY......someone who will rally the people to COME TOGETHER..not divide them .....make this Country Business friendly and start rallying the people with the money to start investing in the USA and get it back to where this Country produced the shit we used to produce......fuck China and India and the rest.....we dont need them....WE CAN DO IT....we did it once we can get those industries going again....when people are working and Companies cant keep up with their orders.....when people are TOGETHER and just about on the same page....WATCH OUT....theres no stopping us.....someday hopefully this person will show up....

For those very reasons, my ideal pick would be Colin Powell. He's smart, he's not overtly aligned with either party (both of which suck big time), and he is a natural leader. As a military guy, he puts country over everything except family.

I also like Christie but he's already said he will not run and, unlike Obama, I believe he's definite about that. NJ are lucky to have him.

I'd also love to see Condi Rice come back into politics. That woman is smarter than just about anyone in the political arena - including Obama.

I agree with Condi, and up until 3 years ago I would have backed Colon Powell. But he proved himself to be a racist and I can not support him after that.

Both Powell and Rice will forever be associated with the fiasco which is Iraq. Neo-Conservative ideology is dead for at least one more generation, or at least until the Minstry of Truth is able to rewrite history (I understand that is underway in Texas High Schools at this very moment).

 

[Wry Catcher]

Better question that should be answered first. Why should anyone step up and declare. Give the bullshit and demonization that is carried out by the left?

LOL, now that's funny. I'm sure all agree your tolerant and honorable opposition to President Obama and the Democratic Party is an example the left should emulate.

we treat him with the exact same level of civillity and respect as you did President Bush. It's what we promised and it's a promise we've kept. You don't like it? don't dish it. You reap what ya sow.

So you admit that no matter which Democrat elected to POTUS, you and your kind would have done all you could to create a climate in which s/he would fail?

 

[DiveCon]

LOL, now that's funny. I'm sure all agree your tolerant and honorable opposition to President Obama and the Democratic Party is an example the left should emulate.

we treat him with the exact same level of civillity and respect as you did President Bush. It's what we promised and it's a promise we've kept. You don't like it? don't dish it. You reap what ya sow.

So you admit that no matter which Democrat elected to POTUS, you and your kind would have done all you could to create a climate in which s/he would fail?

but she only represents herself and maybe a small minority of the conservative side

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

For those very reasons, my ideal pick would be Colin Powell. He's smart, he's not overtly aligned with either party (both of which suck big time), and he is a natural leader. As a military guy, he puts country over everything except family.

I also like Christie but he's already said he will not run and, unlike Obama, I believe he's definite about that. NJ are lucky to have him.

I'd also love to see Condi Rice come back into politics. That woman is smarter than just about anyone in the political arena - including Obama.

I agree with Condi, and up until 3 years ago I would have backed Colon Powell. But he proved himself to be a racist and I can not support him after that.

Both Powell and Rice will forever be associated with the fiasco which is Iraq. Neo-Conservative ideology is dead for at least one more generation, or at least until the Minstry of Truth is able to rewrite history (I understand that is underway in Texas High Schools at this very moment).