An excellent exposition of the climate change problem, physical and political.



Three lectures by leading scientists, a must read for those interested in climate change.


Here is the reason for "climate change".

This was a plan proposed by the writers of the "Iron Mountain Report" that was implemented by the Club Of Rome, an offshoot of the U.N.

You can not have any kind of benchmark for what the actual temperature is unless you figure in the variables and affects of stratospheric aerosol injection of heavy metal nano-particulates. This shit is landing in our food, lands in our water, the cows eat the grass this shit lands in. These programs are killing the plankton that provides oxygen to aquatic life. We have sections of the oceans that are dead and stagnant. Birds dropping out of the skies by the thousands, fish and ocean life washing up on the shores by the thousands. The bees are dying by the billions. These psychopaths are killing our food supply because they will use food to bring people into compliance to their goals. Think I am kidding? Guess again......I have read the white papers of the CFR and globalists like Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezenski.


 
Well now, two resident idiots now heard from. How about a few people that have some brains. These people are all at the top of their fields. What do you have to say concerning their evidence, and thoughts concerning the future?
 
Well now, two resident idiots now heard from. How about a few people that have some brains. These people are all at the top of their fields. What do you have to say concerning their evidence, and thoughts concerning the future?

I started to watch the 1st section. With an anthropologist expounding on the definition of tipping points in non-linear systems and then ARROGANTLY and BLYTHFULLY asserting that we are currently "perched on one of those".. I would hope she accepts MY credentials to jump to conclusions over a set of bones and a bunch of shattered pottery.

That hurt my brain. Having been involved in the analysis of probably several 100 very complex linear, non-linear, stochastic systems and combinations of the above.

So my question to you is --- does this get BETTER? Or is the rest of this emotion and arm-waving, leaps to conclusions like that one?

I'll take your word for it Bud and muddle through if it does get better.. .It couldn't hurt if I pre-load with excedrin and I might end up ROFLing a bit too.. Tell me truthfully.. :biggrin:
 
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Tell ya what Old Rocks -- The first genius is COMPLETELY confused as to "tipping points" and not really familiar with the actually accuracy and robustness of the proxy temp record at all.

Could you point me to GOOD segment in this hour long production?
 
Tell ya what Old Rocks -- The first genius is COMPLETELY confused as to "tipping points" and not really familiar with the actually accuracy and robustness of the proxy temp record at all.

Could you point me to GOOD segment in this hour long production?

Save yourself a headache.. That woman is a UN, Socialist card carrying member. She conflates and confuses the whole of atmospheric science twisting it into a huge pile of crap. Her so called "tipping points" are pure partisan baseless hyperbole.

All three of these segments are the same way. Arrogant and full of crapola as their math is pure fantasy,
 
Well now, two resident idiots now heard from. How about a few people that have some brains. These people are all at the top of their fields. What do you have to say concerning their evidence, and thoughts concerning the future?

I started to watch the 1st section. With an anthropologist expounding on the definition of tipping points in non-linear systems and then ARROGANTLY and BLYTHFULLY asserting that we are currently "perched on one of those".. I would hope she accepts MY credentials to jump to conclusions over a set of bones and a bunch of shattered pottery.

That hurt my brain. Having been involved in the analysis of probably several 100 very complex linear, non-linear, stochastic systems and combinations of the above.

So my question to you is --- does this get BETTER? Or is the rest of this emotion and arm-waving, leaps to conclusions like that one?

I'll take your word for it Bud and muddle through if it does get better.. .It couldn't hurt if I pre-load with excedrin and I might end up ROFLing a bit too.. Tell me truthfully.. :biggrin:

Elizabethy Hadly

Academic Appointments

Administrative Appointments
  • Senior Associate Vice Provost of Undergraduate Education, VPUE (2013 - Present)
Professional Education
  • Ph.D., Univ. California, Berkeley, Integrative Biology (1995)
  • M.S., Northern Arizona University, Quaternary Studies (1990)
  • B.A., Univ. Colorado, Boulder, Anthropology (1981)
I assume that your credentials are equal, Mr. Flacaltenn.
 
Naomi Oreskes

Areas of Research: History of Environmental Sciences, Science Policy, Philosophy of Science, Science and Religion, STS, Technology and Society, Women and Gender Studies


Naomi Oreskes is Professor of the History of Science and Affiliated Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences. She recently arrived at Harvard after spending 15 years as Professor of History and Science Studies at the University of California, San Diego, and Adjunct Professor of Geosciences at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Professor Oreskes’s research focuses on the earth and environmental sciences, with a particular interest in understanding scientific consensus and dissent.

Her 2004 essay “The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change” (Science 306: 1686) has been widely cited, both in the United States and abroad, including in the Royal Society’s publication, “A Guide to Facts and Fictions about Climate Change," in the Academy-award winning film, An Inconvenient Truth, and in Ian McEwan’s novel, Solar. Her opinion pieces have appeared in The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Times (London), Nature, Science, The New Statesman, Frankfurter Allgemeine and elsewhere. Her 2010 book, Merchants of Doubt, How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco to Global warming, co-authored with Erik M. Conway, was shortlisted for the Los Angeles Time Book Prize, and received the 2011 Watson-Davis Prize from the History of Science Society.

Anyone here have equal credentials and experiance in this field?
 
About

Professor Veerabhadran Ramanathan

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Distinguished Professor, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California at San Diego;UNESCO Professor of Climate and Policy, TERI University, Delhi, India.

Dr. Ramanathan discovered the greenhouse effect of halocarbons, particularly, CFCs in 1975. Along with R. Madden, predicted in 1980 that global warming would be detected by 2000. In 1985, he led the first international NASA/WMO/UNEP assessment on the climate effects of non-CO2 greenhouse gases and concluded that they are as important as CO2 to global climate change. He was among a team of four which developed the first version of the US community climate model in the 1980s. In 1989, he led a NASA study that used satellite radiation budget instruments to conclude that clouds had a large global cooling effect. He led an international field experiment in the 1990s, with Paul Crutzen, that discovered the widespread Atmospheric Brown Clouds (ABCs) over S. Asia, which have devastating health and climate impacts. He developed light weight unmanned aerial vehicles to track pollution plumes from S. Asia, E. Asia and N. America. His recent finding is that mitigation of short lived climate pollutants (black carbon, methane, ozone and HFCs) will slow down global warming significantly during this century. This proposal has now been adopted by the United Nations and 30 countries including USA and a new coalition, called as the, Climate and Clean Air Coalition is implementing mitigation actions for short lived climate pollutants. He now leads Project Surya which is mitigating black carbon and other climate warming emissions from solid biomass cooking in S. Asia and Kenya and is documenting their effects on public health and environment. Teaming up with California Air Resources Board and R. K Pachauri, he has initiated a World Bank sponsored project to reduce soot emissions from the transportation sector in India.

He has won numerous prestigious awards including the Tyler prize. the top environment prize given in the US; the Volvo Prize; the Rossby Prize and the Zayed prize. In 2013, he was awarded the top environment prize from the United Nations, the Champions of Earth for Science and Innovation. He has been elected to the US National Academy of Sciences, American Philosophical Society, the Pontifical Academy by Pope John Paul II and the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

He is now serving in Pope Francis' Council for the Pontifical Academy of Sciences; and UNESCO awarded the Climate and Policy professorship at TERI Deemed- University in New Delhi, India. He is co-organizer of a 2014 Vatican meeting on "Sustainable Humanity, Sustainable Nature" of social and natural scientists, philosophers and policy makers.



Affiliations
Director, Center for Clouds, Chemistry & Climate(C4)
Chair, Atmospheric Brown Cloud (ABC)
Chair, Project Surya
Scripps Institution of Oceanography (SIO)
UNESCO Professor of Climate and Policy, TERI University, New Delhi, India
University of California, San Diego (UCSD)

I would guess the credentials this man has exceed any of the posters on this board.
 
Well now, two resident idiots now heard from. How about a few people that have some brains. These people are all at the top of their fields. What do you have to say concerning their evidence, and thoughts concerning the future?

I started to watch the 1st section. With an anthropologist expounding on the definition of tipping points in non-linear systems and then ARROGANTLY and BLYTHFULLY asserting that we are currently "perched on one of those".. I would hope she accepts MY credentials to jump to conclusions over a set of bones and a bunch of shattered pottery.

That hurt my brain. Having been involved in the analysis of probably several 100 very complex linear, non-linear, stochastic systems and combinations of the above.

So my question to you is --- does this get BETTER? Or is the rest of this emotion and arm-waving, leaps to conclusions like that one?

I'll take your word for it Bud and muddle through if it does get better.. .It couldn't hurt if I pre-load with excedrin and I might end up ROFLing a bit too.. Tell me truthfully.. :biggrin:

Elizabethy Hadly

Academic Appointments

Administrative Appointments
  • Senior Associate Vice Provost of Undergraduate Education, VPUE (2013 - Present)
Professional Education
  • Ph.D., Univ. California, Berkeley, Integrative Biology (1995)
  • M.S., Northern Arizona University, Quaternary Studies (1990)
  • B.A., Univ. Colorado, Boulder, Anthropology (1981)
I assume that your credentials are equal, Mr. Flacaltenn.

To speak within or outside my area of expertise? Was there a segment actually DEALING with AGW theory?
 
Naomi Oreskes

Areas of Research: History of Environmental Sciences, Science Policy, Philosophy of Science, Science and Religion, STS, Technology and Society, Women and Gender Studies


Naomi Oreskes is Professor of the History of Science and Affiliated Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences. She recently arrived at Harvard after spending 15 years as Professor of History and Science Studies at the University of California, San Diego, and Adjunct Professor of Geosciences at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Professor Oreskes’s research focuses on the earth and environmental sciences, with a particular interest in understanding scientific consensus and dissent.

Her 2004 essay “The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change” (Science 306: 1686) has been widely cited, both in the United States and abroad, including in the Royal Society’s publication, “A Guide to Facts and Fictions about Climate Change," in the Academy-award winning film, An Inconvenient Truth, and in Ian McEwan’s novel, Solar. Her opinion pieces have appeared in The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Times (London), Nature, Science, The New Statesman, Frankfurter Allgemeine and elsewhere. Her 2010 book, Merchants of Doubt, How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco to Global warming, co-authored with Erik M. Conway, was shortlisted for the Los Angeles Time Book Prize, and received the 2011 Watson-Davis Prize from the History of Science Society.

Anyone here have equal credentials and experiance in this field?

This lady is a HISTORIAN -- not a scientist. And one of the most controversial and politically active "historians" at that...
 
Naomi Oreskes

Areas of Research: History of Environmental Sciences, Science Policy, Philosophy of Science, Science and Religion, STS, Technology and Society, Women and Gender Studies


Naomi Oreskes is Professor of the History of Science and Affiliated Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences. She recently arrived at Harvard after spending 15 years as Professor of History and Science Studies at the University of California, San Diego, and Adjunct Professor of Geosciences at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Professor Oreskes’s research focuses on the earth and environmental sciences, with a particular interest in understanding scientific consensus and dissent.

Her 2004 essay “The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change” (Science 306: 1686) has been widely cited, both in the United States and abroad, including in the Royal Society’s publication, “A Guide to Facts and Fictions about Climate Change," in the Academy-award winning film, An Inconvenient Truth, and in Ian McEwan’s novel, Solar. Her opinion pieces have appeared in The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Times (London), Nature, Science, The New Statesman, Frankfurter Allgemeine and elsewhere. Her 2010 book, Merchants of Doubt, How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco to Global warming, co-authored with Erik M. Conway, was shortlisted for the Los Angeles Time Book Prize, and received the 2011 Watson-Davis Prize from the History of Science Society.

Anyone here have equal credentials and experiance in this field?

This lady is a HISTORIAN -- not a scientist. And one of the most controversial and politically active "historians" at that...
Naomi Oreskes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Background[edit]

Oreskes is the daughter of Susan Eileen (Nagin), a teacher, and Irwin Oreskes, a professor.[4][5][6] She received her Bachelor of Science in mining geology from the Royal School of Mines of Imperial College, University of London in 1981, and worked as a research assistant in the Geology Department and as a teaching assistant in the departments of Geology, Philosophy and Applied Earth Sciences at Stanford University starting in 1984. She received her PhD degree in the Graduate Special Program in Geological Research and History of Science at Stanford in 1990. She received a National Science Foundation's Young Investigator Award in 1994.

She has worked as a consultant for the United States Environmental Protection Agency and US National Academy of Sciences, and has also taught at Dartmouth, Harvard and New York University (NYU). She is the author of or has contributed to a number of essays and technical reports in economic geology and science history[7] in addition to several books.

Oreskes was the Provost of the Sixth College at the University of California, San Diego.

Well, Mr. Flacaltenn, I would bet that Dr. Oreskes bona fides in geology and climate science far out rank yours.
 

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