An example of how impossible the Isreali/Palestinian conflict is

[Phoenall]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

 

[pbel]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

 

[Phoenall]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

In 1948 it was the arab armies that had the weapons from the west, and Israel had no actual support. It was farmers using tractors against tanks, WW1 single shot carbines against modern guns with magazines. It was only when the Jews managed to secure an arms shipment from Eastern Europe that the levelled the field a little bit. What won the day was the Jews having everything to fight for while the arab armies had nothing

 

[aris2chat]

WP used against people to burn them, as used by the Israelis, is illegal.

and

"The Israeli military is reportedly using flechette shells in its offensive in Gaza, weapons described as illegal under “rules of humanitarian law” by an Israeli human rights organisation"

Israel-Gaza conflict Deadly flechette shells used by Israeli military in Gaza Strip - Middle East - World - The Independent

Not if they were not intended to be used to burn people, if the morons in gaza were stupid enough to pick it up that is not Israel's fault

Flechettes are not illegal weapons, and the group you cite is a left wing neo Marxist group that are not Jews but atheists.

but hamas bombs filled with nuts, bolts, nails, screws and feces are not illegal or indiscriminate? They make larger irregular hole more difficult to close and ensure infection that alone might cause death.

Flechettes create small holes with less bleeding and more easily closed and heal with less scaring.

Flechettes can be used in shot guns, not just bombs. They are used in many ways. Landmines often use them. They are popular with people that reload. Hunters will likely say they do less damage to the meat.

 

[Lipush]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

International law doesn't work anywhere in the MidEast.

You people are blind.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

International law doesn't work anywhere in the MidEast.

You people are blind.

Indeed, Israel is a law free zone.

 

[Phoenall]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

International law doesn't work anywhere in the MidEast.

You people are blind.

Indeed, Israel is a law free zone.

LINK ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

International law doesn't work anywhere in the MidEast.

You people are blind.

Indeed, Israel is a law free zone.

LINK ?

How many hundred do you want?

The most common and regular complaint about Israel is that it thumbs its nose at all international laws. This is mentioned everywhere.

 

[Lipush]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

International law doesn't work anywhere in the MidEast.

You people are blind.

Indeed, Israel is a law free zone.

Israel is the only NON law free zone, unlike Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Tunisia.

Problem with you anti-Israelis that you hate us so much you don't care about anything else and only see inside your tiny square.

 

[aris2chat]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

International law doesn't work anywhere in the MidEast.

You people are blind.

Indeed, Israel is a law free zone.

Israel is the only NON law free zone, unlike Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Tunisia.

Problem with you anti-Israelis that you hate us so much you don't care about anything else and only see inside your tiny square.

lebanon and syria require military service for men. Jordan did till about 20 yrs ago

 

[montelatici]

http://mondediplo.com/1997/12/palestineQUOTE="Phoenall, post: 11271878, member: 35705"]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

In 1948 it was the arab armies that had the weapons from the west, and Israel had no actual support. It was farmers using tractors against tanks, WW1 single shot carbines against modern guns with magazines. It was only when the Jews managed to secure an arms shipment from Eastern Europe that the levelled the field a little bit. What won the day was the Jews having everything to fight for while the arab armies had nothing[/QUOTE]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

In 1948 it was the arab armies that had the weapons from the west, and Israel had no actual support. It was farmers using tractors against tanks, WW1 single shot carbines against modern guns with magazines. It was only when the Jews managed to secure an arms shipment from Eastern Europe that the levelled the field a little bit. What won the day was the Jews having everything to fight for while the arab armies had nothing

Yeah right. Still slinging the Zionist propaganda.

"the many advantages enjoyed by the nascent Jewish state over its enemies: the decomposition of Palestinian society; the divisions in the Arab world and the inferiority of their armed forces (in terms of numbers, training and weaponry, and hence impact); the strategic advantage enjoyed by Israel as a result of its agreement with King Abdullah of Transjordan (in exchange for the West Bank, he undertook not to attack the territory allocated to Israel by the UN); British support for this compromise, together with the joint support of the United States and the Soviet Union; the sympathy of world public opinion and so forth."

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

 

[Phoenall]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

International law doesn't work anywhere in the MidEast.

You people are blind.

Indeed, Israel is a law free zone.

LINK ?

How many hundred do you want?

The most common and regular complaint about Israel is that it thumbs its nose at all international laws. This is mentioned everywhere.

Start with one from a non partisan source if you can, none of your islamonazi propaganda sites.

And then the complainants are shown to be telling lies when the actual laws are spelt out, as in the Geneva conventions that Israel follows to the letter. So do your worst and see your posts destroyed by the actual international laws Israel is allegedly in breach of

 

[Phoenall]

http://mondediplo.com/1997/12/palestineQUOTE="Phoenall, post: 11271878, member: 35705"]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

In 1948 it was the arab armies that had the weapons from the west, and Israel had no actual support. It was farmers using tractors against tanks, WW1 single shot carbines against modern guns with magazines. It was only when the Jews managed to secure an arms shipment from Eastern Europe that the levelled the field a little bit. What won the day was the Jews having everything to fight for while the arab armies had nothing

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

In 1948 it was the arab armies that had the weapons from the west, and Israel had no actual support. It was farmers using tractors against tanks, WW1 single shot carbines against modern guns with magazines. It was only when the Jews managed to secure an arms shipment from Eastern Europe that the levelled the field a little bit. What won the day was the Jews having everything to fight for while the arab armies had nothing

Yeah right. Still slinging the Zionist propaganda.

"the many advantages enjoyed by the nascent Jewish state over its enemies: the decomposition of Palestinian society; the divisions in the Arab world and the inferiority of their armed forces (in terms of numbers, training and weaponry, and hence impact); the strategic advantage enjoyed by Israel as a result of its agreement with King Abdullah of Transjordan (in exchange for the West Bank, he undertook not to attack the territory allocated to Israel by the UN); British support for this compromise, together with the joint support of the United States and the Soviet Union; the sympathy of world public opinion and so forth."

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition[/QUOTE]



You do realise your source is a neo Marxist front that is anti American, and supporter of left wing dictorships.

As its former editor said "Le Monde diplomatique is a journal of opinion; Le Monde is a journal of opinions."

So hardly an unbiased source of any tangible proof of anything relating to the arab/Israeli conflict.


Another islamomoron propaganda piece by monte the team headed by Haniya

 

[Linkiloo]

Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace.

In which party of the godforsaken world would that be? Africa, China, South America, Russia or only Israel? That was a rhetorical question as we know that Jews alone interest you.

 

[Linkiloo]

(Jerusalem) - Israel's repeated firing of white phosphorus shells over densely populated areas of Gaza during its recent military campaign was indiscriminate and is evidence of war crimes, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.

Israel White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes Human Rights Watch

"The Israeli military is reportedly using flechette shells in its offensive in Gaza, weapons described as illegal under “rules of humanitarian law” by an Israeli human rights organisation"

Israel-Gaza conflict Deadly flechette shells used by Israeli military in Gaza Strip - Middle East - World - The Independent

Want more?

You said last Summer. What illegal weapons were used last Summer?

"Rules of humanitarian law" - seriously, I have never heard of such a body of law.

It is nonsensical to claim that Israel intentionally caused civilians casualties.

They have no more reason to do so than UK or US forces engaging in war in the middle east.

 

[P F Tinmore]

(Jerusalem) - Israel's repeated firing of white phosphorus shells over densely populated areas of Gaza during its recent military campaign was indiscriminate and is evidence of war crimes, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.

Israel White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes Human Rights Watch

"The Israeli military is reportedly using flechette shells in its offensive in Gaza, weapons described as illegal under “rules of humanitarian law” by an Israeli human rights organisation"

Israel-Gaza conflict Deadly flechette shells used by Israeli military in Gaza Strip - Middle East - World - The Independent

Want more?

You said last Summer. What illegal weapons were used last Summer?

"Rules of humanitarian law" - seriously, I have never heard of such a body of law.

It is nonsensical to claim that Israel intentionally caused civilians casualties.

They have no more reason to do so than UK or US forces engaging in war in the middle east.

You're setting the bar pretty low.

 

[member]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

"An example of how impossible the Isreali/Palestinian conflict is."



look closely:

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The gov’t:

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Perfect examples: “….of how impossible the Isreali/Palestinian conflict is”​

 

[member]

"Until the world decides to enforce international law and UN resolutions, there will be no peace."

what about the stupid palestinian "Governmental" terrorists and their gun & bomb smuggling, secret tunnels ?

you ALWAYS leave them out of the picture...

 

[toastman]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

Except Israel isn't an invader, and the examples you gave are not even close to Israel. We are not in the 1600's, 1700's or even 1800's no more. Countries don't just stop existing anymore. Get your head out your ass just for once.

 

[P F Tinmore]

http://mondediplo.com/1997/12/palestineQUOTE="Phoenall, post: 11271878, member: 35705"]

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

In 1948 it was the arab armies that had the weapons from the west, and Israel had no actual support. It was farmers using tractors against tanks, WW1 single shot carbines against modern guns with magazines. It was only when the Jews managed to secure an arms shipment from Eastern Europe that the levelled the field a little bit. What won the day was the Jews having everything to fight for while the arab armies had nothing

So a few years ago a Palestinian child was killed in a terror attack committed by Israeli's. The Israeli government swiftly condemned the attacks and called the child a victim of terrorism allowing the family to receive stipends from the government. The child's name is added to a Monument for all the people in Israel killed by terrorism.

What an Israeli has to say about his name being added:
"(Khudair's) name on the memorial debases the memory of all the other fallen people," Yossi Tzur, an Almagor member whose 17-year-old son was killed in a Palestinian suicide bombing in 2003, told Israel Radio.

"He is not part of the Israeli ethos. He is not part of the sacrifice our children made at the altar for the sake of Israel's establishment and existence," Tzur said.

What the boy's family has to say about his name being added:
"We can't accept that his name be included among soldiers who killed his relatives in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank," said Khudair's father, Hussein.

So those are 2 people representing 2 groups of people that absolutely hate each other. How in the world could these 2 possibly be convinced to sit down with each other? The hatred is SO STRONG! Especially as they both live under this fantasy that their people have a religious mandate to have sole ownership of the same land?

It's unbelievable. I don't think there can ever be peace there.

Palestinian teen s name added to Israeli memorial riling families on both sides - Yahoo News

Israel can survive only with force, she was placed there by then Western power politics at the UN...

Its really sad, but a Jewish State can never survive, no invader has thus far to this area...The Romans, the Crusaders, the Turks, the Brits...Eventually the Demographic's slow process consumed all comers...

The only hope is maybe a one State solution. But you are right about the hate on both sides, and sadly, there will never be peace.

And you hate and LIES shine out when you claim that Israel was placed there by the UN, when the truth is Israel was placed there 22 years before the UN was invented.

The truth is that Israel would have succumbed to the Arab armies if it did not get Western support and arms to defend herself...

The West still props up Israel and our cost has been high with homeland terrorism in America and Europe.

Israel has wanted an East/West religious/Cultural war, she has achieved this.

In 1948 it was the arab armies that had the weapons from the west, and Israel had no actual support. It was farmers using tractors against tanks, WW1 single shot carbines against modern guns with magazines. It was only when the Jews managed to secure an arms shipment from Eastern Europe that the levelled the field a little bit. What won the day was the Jews having everything to fight for while the arab armies had nothing

Yeah right. Still slinging the Zionist propaganda.

"the many advantages enjoyed by the nascent Jewish state over its enemies: the decomposition of Palestinian society; the divisions in the Arab world and the inferiority of their armed forces (in terms of numbers, training and weaponry, and hence impact); the strategic advantage enjoyed by Israel as a result of its agreement with King Abdullah of Transjordan (in exchange for the West Bank, he undertook not to attack the territory allocated to Israel by the UN); British support for this compromise, together with the joint support of the United States and the Soviet Union; the sympathy of world public opinion and so forth."

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

You do realise your source is a neo Marxist front that is anti American, and supporter of left wing dictorships.

As its former editor said "Le Monde diplomatique is a journal of opinion; Le Monde is a journal of opinions."

So hardly an unbiased source of any tangible proof of anything relating to the arab/Israeli conflict.


Another islamomoron propaganda piece by monte the team headed by Haniya[/QUOTE]
Is sliming the source all you got?

Sad.