An Ancient Palestinian Civilization? Where?

and here's one in glorious techni-colour
and indians do colour big style!

what a dancer...what a lady!!

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Y-chromosomal Aaron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Y-chromosomal Aaron is the name given to the hypothesised most recent common ancestor of many of the patrilineal Jewish priestly caste known as Kohanim (singular "Kohen", "Cohen", or Kohane). In the Torah, this ancestor is identified as Aaron, the brother of Moses. The hypothetical most recent common ancestor was therefore jocularly dubbed "Y-chromosomal Aaron", in analogy to Y-chromosomal Adam.
The original scientific research was based on the discovery that a majority of present-day Jewish Kohanim either share, or are only one step removed from, a pattern of values for 6 Y-STR markers, which researchers named the Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH). However it subsequently became clear that this six marker pattern was widespread in many communities where men had Y chromosomes which fell into Haplogroup J; the six-marker CMH was not specific just to Cohens, nor even just to Jews, but was a survival from the origins of Haplogroup J, about 30,000 years ago.[citation needed]
More recent research, using a larger number of Y-STR markers to gain higher resolution more specific genetic signatures, has indicated that about half of contemporary Jewish Kohanim, who share Y-chromosomal haplogroup J1c3 (also called J-P58), do indeed appear to be very closely related. A further approximately 15% of Kohanim fall into a second distinct group, sharing a different but similarly tightly related ancestry. This second group fall under haplogroup J2a (J-M410). A number of other smaller lineage groups are also observed. Only one of these haplogroups could indicate ancestry from Y-chromosomal Aaron.

Further study published in 2009 found new markers and better defined variant J1e* (now J1c3, also called J-P58*). This research demonstrates that 46.1% of Kohanim carry Y chromosomes belonging to a single paternal lineage (J-P58*) that likely originated in the Near East well before the dispersal of Jewish groups in the Diaspora. Support for a Near Eastern origin of this lineage comes from its high frequency in our sample of Bedouins, Yemenis (67%), and Jordanians (55%) and its precipitous drop in frequency as one moves away from Saudi Arabia and the Near East (Fig. 4). Moreover, there is a striking contrast between the relatively high frequency of J-58* in Jewish populations (»20%) and Kohanim (»46%) and its vanishingly low frequency in our sample of non- Jewish populations that hosted Jewish diaspora communities outside of the Near East.[6]
Thomas, et al. dated the origin of the shared DNA to approximately 3,000 years ago (with variance arising from different generation lengths). The techniques used to find Y-chromosomal Aaron were first popularized in relation to the search for the patrilineal ancestor of all contemporary living humans, Y-chromosomal Adam.

Responses
The finding led to excitement in religious circles, with some seeing it as providing some "proof" of the historical veracity of part of the Bible[7] or other religious convictions.[8] There was also criticism that the paper's evidence was being overstated.[9]
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Weak...
Nah. That's pretty strong incontrovertible evidence that you just got smacked in the face with. LOL
 
Ha ha. This is the real stuff. Her voice and talent is diverse are one of a kind. Enjoy.

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Eh? Over half the Jews in Israel are Jews who are either from the Middle east, or descendants of, DNA test have shown that Jews only whether European or Middle Eastern have a common gene that no Muslim or Arab has. The Palestinians who started calling themseves Palestinians as of 1967 are recent Arab invaders from neighboring Arab lands. Their language, culture and DNA are identical to other Arabs from Jordan, Syria, or Egypt.

In other words you can take if stupid ass Khazar theory from a Nazi website and SHOVE IT. Pig.

link
Y-chromosomal Aaron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Y-chromosomal Aaron is the name given to the hypothesised most recent common ancestor of many of the patrilineal Jewish priestly caste known as Kohanim (singular "Kohen", "Cohen", or Kohane). In the Torah, this ancestor is identified as Aaron, the brother of Moses. The hypothetical most recent common ancestor was therefore jocularly dubbed "Y-chromosomal Aaron", in analogy to Y-chromosomal Adam.
The original scientific research was based on the discovery that a majority of present-day Jewish Kohanim either share, or are only one step removed from, a pattern of values for 6 Y-STR markers, which researchers named the Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH). However it subsequently became clear that this six marker pattern was widespread in many communities where men had Y chromosomes which fell into Haplogroup J; the six-marker CMH was not specific just to Cohens, nor even just to Jews, but was a survival from the origins of Haplogroup J, about 30,000 years ago.[citation needed]
More recent research, using a larger number of Y-STR markers to gain higher resolution more specific genetic signatures, has indicated that about half of contemporary Jewish Kohanim, who share Y-chromosomal haplogroup J1c3 (also called J-P58), do indeed appear to be very closely related. A further approximately 15% of Kohanim fall into a second distinct group, sharing a different but similarly tightly related ancestry. This second group fall under haplogroup J2a (J-M410). A number of other smaller lineage groups are also observed. Only one of these haplogroups could indicate ancestry from Y-chromosomal Aaron.

Further study published in 2009 found new markers and better defined variant J1e* (now J1c3, also called J-P58*). This research demonstrates that 46.1% of Kohanim carry Y chromosomes belonging to a single paternal lineage (J-P58*) that likely originated in the Near East well before the dispersal of Jewish groups in the Diaspora. Support for a Near Eastern origin of this lineage comes from its high frequency in our sample of Bedouins, Yemenis (67%), and Jordanians (55%) and its precipitous drop in frequency as one moves away from Saudi Arabia and the Near East (Fig. 4). Moreover, there is a striking contrast between the relatively high frequency of J-58* in Jewish populations (»20%) and Kohanim (»46%) and its vanishingly low frequency in our sample of non- Jewish populations that hosted Jewish diaspora communities outside of the Near East.[6]
Thomas, et al. dated the origin of the shared DNA to approximately 3,000 years ago (with variance arising from different generation lengths). The techniques used to find Y-chromosomal Aaron were first popularized in relation to the search for the patrilineal ancestor of all contemporary living humans, Y-chromosomal Adam.

Responses
The finding led to excitement in religious circles, with some seeing it as providing some "proof" of the historical veracity of part of the Bible[7] or other religious convictions.[8] There was also criticism that the paper's evidence was being overstated.[9]
[edit]

Responses
The finding led to excitement in religious circles, with some seeing it as providing some "proof" of the historical veracity of part of the Bible[7] or other religious convictions.[8] There was also criticism that the paper's evidence was being overstated.[9]

Y-chromosomal Aaron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Y-chromosomal Aaron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Y-chromosomal Aaron is the name given to the hypothesised most recent common ancestor of many of the patrilineal Jewish priestly caste known as Kohanim (singular "Kohen", "Cohen", or Kohane). In the Torah, this ancestor is identified as Aaron, the brother of Moses. The hypothetical most recent common ancestor was therefore jocularly dubbed "Y-chromosomal Aaron", in analogy to Y-chromosomal Adam.
The original scientific research was based on the discovery that a majority of present-day Jewish Kohanim either share, or are only one step removed from, a pattern of values for 6 Y-STR markers, which researchers named the Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH). However it subsequently became clear that this six marker pattern was widespread in many communities where men had Y chromosomes which fell into Haplogroup J; the six-marker CMH was not specific just to Cohens, nor even just to Jews, but was a survival from the origins of Haplogroup J, about 30,000 years ago.[citation needed]
More recent research, using a larger number of Y-STR markers to gain higher resolution more specific genetic signatures, has indicated that about half of contemporary Jewish Kohanim, who share Y-chromosomal haplogroup J1c3 (also called J-P58), do indeed appear to be very closely related. A further approximately 15% of Kohanim fall into a second distinct group, sharing a different but similarly tightly related ancestry. This second group fall under haplogroup J2a (J-M410). A number of other smaller lineage groups are also observed. Only one of these haplogroups could indicate ancestry from Y-chromosomal Aaron.

Further study published in 2009 found new markers and better defined variant J1e* (now J1c3, also called J-P58*). This research demonstrates that 46.1% of Kohanim carry Y chromosomes belonging to a single paternal lineage (J-P58*) that likely originated in the Near East well before the dispersal of Jewish groups in the Diaspora. Support for a Near Eastern origin of this lineage comes from its high frequency in our sample of Bedouins, Yemenis (67%), and Jordanians (55%) and its precipitous drop in frequency as one moves away from Saudi Arabia and the Near East (Fig. 4). Moreover, there is a striking contrast between the relatively high frequency of J-58* in Jewish populations (»20%) and Kohanim (»46%) and its vanishingly low frequency in our sample of non- Jewish populations that hosted Jewish diaspora communities outside of the Near East.[6]
Thomas, et al. dated the origin of the shared DNA to approximately 3,000 years ago (with variance arising from different generation lengths). The techniques used to find Y-chromosomal Aaron were first popularized in relation to the search for the patrilineal ancestor of all contemporary living humans, Y-chromosomal Adam.

Responses
The finding led to excitement in religious circles, with some seeing it as providing some "proof" of the historical veracity of part of the Bible[7] or other religious convictions.[8] There was also criticism that the paper's evidence was being overstated.[9]
[edit]

Responses
The finding led to excitement in religious circles, with some seeing it as providing some "proof" of the historical veracity of part of the Bible[7] or other religious convictions.[8] There was also criticism that the paper's evidence was being overstated.[9]

Y-chromosomal Aaron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2DFnGI9Ac]Wikipedia - Israel is paying internet workers to manipulate online content - YouTube[/ame]


Haha, you're mad cause you just got owned in an argument :D
 
Taken as a whole, the genetic studies of varied Jewish populations around the world illustrate the ability of modern laboratory techniques to contribute to a better understanding of historical phenomena, particularly when they involve the movement of populations. However, Jewishness is not a genetic trait, never was, and never will be.

Gene Watch Page
 
An Ancient Palestinian Civilization? Where?

Here.

Canaan (Northwest Semitic knaʿn; Phoenician: ��������; Biblical Hebrew: כנען / knaʿn; Masoretic: כְּנָעַן / Kənáʿan; Arabic: كنعان* / Kan‘ān) is a historical Semitic-speaking region roughly corresponding to the Levant (modern-day Israel, Palestinian territories, Lebanon, and the western parts of Jordan and Syria). Canaan was of geopolitical importance in the Late Bronze Age Amarna period as the area where the spheres of interest of the Egyptian, Hittite Empire and Assyrian Empires converged. Canaan is historically attested throughout the 4th millennium BC; the later Amarna Letters use Kinaḫḫu, while sources of the Egyptian New Kingdom mention numerous military campaigns conducted in Ka-na-na.[1] In modern usage, the name is often associated with the Hebrew Bible, where the "Land of Canaan" extends from Lebanon southward to the "Brook of Egypt" and eastward to the Jordan River Valley.
Much of the modern knowledge about Canaan stems from excavation in this area. Canaanite culture apparently developed in situ from the Circum-Arabian Nomadic Pastoral Complex, which in turn developed from a fusion of Near Eastern Harifian hunter gatherers with Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) farming cultures, practicing animal domestication, during the 6200 BC climatic crisis.[2] Linguistically, the Canaanite languages form a group within the Northwest Semitic languages; its best-known member today is the Hebrew language, being mostly known from Iron Age epigraphy. Other languages in the Northwest Semitic Canaanite group include; Phoenecian, Ugaritic, Amorite, Ammonite, Moabite and Edomite. The various Canaanite nations of the Bronze to Iron Ages are mentioned in the Bible, Mesopotamian (Assyrian and Babylonian), Hittite and Ancient Egyptian texts. The Late Bronze Age state of Ugarit (modern Ras Shamra in Syria) is considered quintessentially Canaanite archaeologically,[3] even though its Ugaritic language does not belong to the Canaanite group proper.
 
An Ancient Palestinian Civilization? Where?

Here.

Canaan (Northwest Semitic knaʿn; Phoenician: ��������; Biblical Hebrew: כנען / knaʿn; Masoretic: כְּנָעַן / Kənáʿan; Arabic: كنعان* / Kan‘ān) is a historical Semitic-speaking region roughly corresponding to the Levant (modern-day Israel, Palestinian territories, Lebanon, and the western parts of Jordan and Syria). Canaan was of geopolitical importance in the Late Bronze Age Amarna period as the area where the spheres of interest of the Egyptian, Hittite Empire and Assyrian Empires converged. Canaan is historically attested throughout the 4th millennium BC; the later Amarna Letters use Kinaḫḫu, while sources of the Egyptian New Kingdom mention numerous military campaigns conducted in Ka-na-na.[1] In modern usage, the name is often associated with the Hebrew Bible, where the "Land of Canaan" extends from Lebanon southward to the "Brook of Egypt" and eastward to the Jordan River Valley.
Much of the modern knowledge about Canaan stems from excavation in this area. Canaanite culture apparently developed in situ from the Circum-Arabian Nomadic Pastoral Complex, which in turn developed from a fusion of Near Eastern Harifian hunter gatherers with Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) farming cultures, practicing animal domestication, during the 6200 BC climatic crisis.[2] Linguistically, the Canaanite languages form a group within the Northwest Semitic languages; its best-known member today is the Hebrew language, being mostly known from Iron Age epigraphy. Other languages in the Northwest Semitic Canaanite group include; Phoenecian, Ugaritic, Amorite, Ammonite, Moabite and Edomite. The various Canaanite nations of the Bronze to Iron Ages are mentioned in the Bible, Mesopotamian (Assyrian and Babylonian), Hittite and Ancient Egyptian texts. The Late Bronze Age state of Ugarit (modern Ras Shamra in Syria) is considered quintessentially Canaanite archaeologically,[3] even though its Ugaritic language does not belong to the Canaanite group proper.
 
yes-----no doubt-----just as recorded in the bible-----there were civilizations in the Land of Canaan------they are no longer extant--------and the people who decided to call themselves
"palestinians' in the 1960s have nothing to do with them
 
An Ancient Palestinian Civilization? Where?

Here.

Canaan (Northwest Semitic knaʿn; Phoenician: ��������; Biblical Hebrew: כנען / knaʿn; Masoretic: כְּנָעַן / Kənáʿan; Arabic: كنعان* / Kan‘ān) is a historical Semitic-speaking region roughly corresponding to the Levant (modern-day Israel, Palestinian territories, Lebanon, and the western parts of Jordan and Syria). Canaan was of geopolitical importance in the Late Bronze Age Amarna period as the area where the spheres of interest of the Egyptian, Hittite Empire and Assyrian Empires converged. Canaan is historically attested throughout the 4th millennium BC; the later Amarna Letters use Kinaḫḫu, while sources of the Egyptian New Kingdom mention numerous military campaigns conducted in Ka-na-na.[1] In modern usage, the name is often associated with the Hebrew Bible, where the "Land of Canaan" extends from Lebanon southward to the "Brook of Egypt" and eastward to the Jordan River Valley.
Much of the modern knowledge about Canaan stems from excavation in this area. Canaanite culture apparently developed in situ from the Circum-Arabian Nomadic Pastoral Complex, which in turn developed from a fusion of Near Eastern Harifian hunter gatherers with Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) farming cultures, practicing animal domestication, during the 6200 BC climatic crisis.[2] Linguistically, the Canaanite languages form a group within the Northwest Semitic languages; its best-known member today is the Hebrew language, being mostly known from Iron Age epigraphy. Other languages in the Northwest Semitic Canaanite group include; Phoenecian, Ugaritic, Amorite, Ammonite, Moabite and Edomite. The various Canaanite nations of the Bronze to Iron Ages are mentioned in the Bible, Mesopotamian (Assyrian and Babylonian), Hittite and Ancient Egyptian texts. The Late Bronze Age state of Ugarit (modern Ras Shamra in Syria) is considered quintessentially Canaanite archaeologically,[3] even though its Ugaritic language does not belong to the Canaanite group proper.

Governments come and go.

The people stay.
 
from Tinnie

Governments come and go.

The people stay.


LOL got that fellow posters? Tinnie's entire myth of the "ANCIENT PALESTINIANS"----depends on the concept that the people of the world DO NOT MIGRATE . they just STAY PUT-------as if the whole world consisted of ------little islands of ----of people who never traveled or traded or sailed or simply left the lands of their origin Accoding to Tinnie----ZOROASTRIANISM was invented in Bombay I live in the USA----in a city-------very few of the people in my city---------have grandparents who were born in the USA
 
The so-called Palestinians claim to have an ancient civilization in historic Israel even preceding the Jews who have inhabited and ruled in Israel dating back 3000 years, however, such a Palestinian past is difficult to actually verify. In fact, it's impossible to do so based on a complete absence of an archaeological record of any Palestinian civilization.

Pulitzer Prize-Winning writer Charles Krauthammer...
Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store.

Arab historians concede the point that Palestinians are a modern construct and say attempts to create a link to the past are ahistorical...

Rashid Khalidi, Professor of Middle East history, Columbia University, professor of Middle East history and director of the Center for International Studies at the University of Chicago, Advisor to Arab groups...


So, too, does eminent Middle East historian and scholar Bernard Lewis say so-called
Palestine and so-called Palestinians are a modern invention...

Palestinians Bernard Lewis...
The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1948]

While there is zero archaeological evidence of a Palestinian civilization, has anyone conducted any excavations and discovered an alleged Palestinian civilization in Israel?


LMFAO!!!!!!!! indeed what Israel discussion forum would be complete without this staple of crude Zionist misinformation---the standard "Palestine never existed" pearl....aside from the obvious ignorance and requisite stupidity---the poster who elects this path could probably get a real eye-opener by simply leafing through a standard world history volume, or taking an elective course in Middle Eastern history at a local university....this is the kind of cringeworthy, vulgar stupidity that defines Zionism in the minds of so many critics...it speaks for itself

Palestinians are not Arabs or Semites.

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples"
Palestinian Myths

3'rd millennium BC : The Canaanites were the earliest known inhabitants of Palestine. They became urbanized and lived in city-states, one of which was Jericho . Brief history of Palestine - Palestine - Home of history


The Philistines were not Arabs nor even Semites, they were most closely related to the Greeks. They did not speak Arabic. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina"; which is derived from the Plesheth, (root palash) was a general term meaning rolling or migratory. This referred to the Philistine's invasion and conquest of the coast from the sea.
The History of the Words Palestine And Palestinians

You did not provide any viable sources to back up your statement. Therefore, one can rightly assume that it has no validity.
 
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from Tinnie

Governments come and go.

The people stay.


LOL got that fellow posters? Tinnie's entire myth of the "ANCIENT PALESTINIANS"----depends on the concept that the people of the world DO NOT MIGRATE . they just STAY PUT-------as if the whole world consisted of ------little islands of ----of people who never traveled or traded or sailed or simply left the lands of their origin Accoding to Tinnie----ZOROASTRIANISM was invented in Bombay I live in the USA----in a city-------very few of the people in my city---------have grandparents who were born in the USA

Are you saying that every time a government changes all of the people leave and a whole new population moves in?
 
The so-called Palestinians claim to have an ancient civilization in historic Israel even preceding the Jews who have inhabited and ruled in Israel dating back 3000 years, however, such a Palestinian past is difficult to actually verify. In fact, it's impossible to do so based on a complete absence of an archaeological record of any Palestinian civilization.

Pulitzer Prize-Winning writer Charles Krauthammer...


Arab historians concede the point that Palestinians are a modern construct and say attempts to create a link to the past are ahistorical...

Rashid Khalidi, Professor of Middle East history, Columbia University, professor of Middle East history and director of the Center for International Studies at the University of Chicago, Advisor to Arab groups...


So, too, does eminent Middle East historian and scholar Bernard Lewis say so-called
Palestine and so-called Palestinians are a modern invention...

Palestinians Bernard Lewis...


While there is zero archaeological evidence of a Palestinian civilization, has anyone conducted any excavations and discovered an alleged Palestinian civilization in Israel?


LMFAO!!!!!!!! indeed what Israel discussion forum would be complete without this staple of crude Zionist misinformation---the standard "Palestine never existed" pearl....aside from the obvious ignorance and requisite stupidity---the poster who elects this path could probably get a real eye-opener by simply leafing through a standard world history volume, or taking an elective course in Middle Eastern history at a local university....this is the kind of cringeworthy, vulgar stupidity that defines Zionism in the minds of so many critics...it speaks for itself

Palestinians are not Arabs or Semites.

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples"
Palestinian Myths

3'rd millennium BC : The Canaanites were the earliest known inhabitants of Palestine. They became urbanized and lived in city-states, one of which was Jericho . Brief history of Palestine - Palestine - Home of history


The Philistines were not Arabs nor even Semites, they were most closely related to the Greeks. They did not speak Arabic. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina"; which is derived from the Plesheth, (root palash) was a general term meaning rolling or migratory. This referred to the Philistine's invasion and conquest of the coast from the sea.
The History of the Words Palestine And Palestinians

What viable sources do you have to prove that Palestinians are Arabs or Semites?

Palestinians are not Arabs or Semites.

So?

What viable sources do you have to prove that Palestinians are Arabs or Semites?

What difference does it make?
 
from Tinnie

Governments come and go.

The people stay.


LOL got that fellow posters? Tinnie's entire myth of the "ANCIENT PALESTINIANS"----depends on the concept that the people of the world DO NOT MIGRATE . they just STAY PUT-------as if the whole world consisted of ------little islands of ----of people who never traveled or traded or sailed or simply left the lands of their origin Accoding to Tinnie----ZOROASTRIANISM was invented in Bombay I live in the USA----in a city-------very few of the people in my city---------have grandparents who were born in the USA

Are you saying that every time a government changes all of the people leave and a whole new population moves in?


if you saw in my post >>>

" every time a government changes all of the people leave and a whole new population moves in"

then you are delusional--------see a doctor

The situation in the MIDDLE EAST has been one of POPULATION FLUX ----for millennia
because it is a pathway between many major CENTERS of the developement of ----civilization it is the central point between the TWO FERTILE VALLEYS -------the Nile Valley and that of the Mesopotamia----the TIGRIS EUPHRATES------- In fact one of the best ways to understand the sitution of POPULATION FLUX in the middle east is a carefull and -------INTELLIGENT reading of the first several books of the bible -------it is beyond you------so forget it. I grew up in the land of the LENILENAPE Indians -----in the USA ---------there were no Lenilenapes in my town at all---------the core population was idiot WASPS with background in the British isles -----and German, Netherlands Not a Lenilenape in town ------a few jews and italians and ------later on hispanics-------all the LENILENAPES were -------gone-----------their arrow heads could still be found along the banks of the streams
 
from Tinnie

Governments come and go.

The people stay.


LOL got that fellow posters? Tinnie's entire myth of the "ANCIENT PALESTINIANS"----depends on the concept that the people of the world DO NOT MIGRATE . they just STAY PUT-------as if the whole world consisted of ------little islands of ----of people who never traveled or traded or sailed or simply left the lands of their origin Accoding to Tinnie----ZOROASTRIANISM was invented in Bombay I live in the USA----in a city-------very few of the people in my city---------have grandparents who were born in the USA

Are you saying that every time a government changes all of the people leave and a whole new population moves in?


if you saw in my post >>>

" every time a government changes all of the people leave and a whole new population moves in"

then you are delusional--------see a doctor

The situation in the MIDDLE EAST has been one of POPULATION FLUX ----for millennia
because it is a pathway between many major CENTERS of the developement of ----civilization it is the central point between the TWO FERTILE VALLEYS -------the Nile Valley and that of the Mesopotamia----the TIGRIS EUPHRATES------- In fact one of the best ways to understand the sitution of POPULATION FLUX in the middle east is a carefull and -------INTELLIGENT reading of the first several books of the bible -------it is beyond you------so forget it. I grew up in the land of the LENILENAPE Indians -----in the USA ---------there were no Lenilenapes in my town at all---------the core population was idiot WASPS with background in the British isles -----and German, Netherlands Not a Lenilenape in town ------a few jews and italians and ------later on hispanics-------all the LENILENAPES were -------gone-----------their arrow heads could still be found along the banks of the streams

OK, there is nothing new here.

But why does that mean that those people have no right to live there?
 
from Tinnie

Governments come and go.

The people stay.


LOL got that fellow posters? Tinnie's entire myth of the "ANCIENT PALESTINIANS"----depends on the concept that the people of the world DO NOT MIGRATE . they just STAY PUT-------as if the whole world consisted of ------little islands of ----of people who never traveled or traded or sailed or simply left the lands of their origin Accoding to Tinnie----ZOROASTRIANISM was invented in Bombay I live in the USA----in a city-------very few of the people in my city---------have grandparents who were born in the USA

It is strange how "ancient palestinians" were actually not-so-ancient Lebanese, Egyptians and Syrians who were land-grabbing.
 
from Tinnie

Governments come and go.

The people stay.


LOL got that fellow posters? Tinnie's entire myth of the "ANCIENT PALESTINIANS"----depends on the concept that the people of the world DO NOT MIGRATE . they just STAY PUT-------as if the whole world consisted of ------little islands of ----of people who never traveled or traded or sailed or simply left the lands of their origin Accoding to Tinnie----ZOROASTRIANISM was invented in Bombay I live in the USA----in a city-------very few of the people in my city---------have grandparents who were born in the USA

It is strange how "ancient palestinians" were actually not-so-ancient Lebanese, Egyptians and Syrians who were land-grabbing.

Are you saying that nobody lived in Palestine until after WWI and then everybody moved in from...wherever.
 
LMFAO!!!!!!!! indeed what Israel discussion forum would be complete without this staple of crude Zionist misinformation---the standard "Palestine never existed" pearl....aside from the obvious ignorance and requisite stupidity---the poster who elects this path could probably get a real eye-opener by simply leafing through a standard world history volume, or taking an elective course in Middle Eastern history at a local university....this is the kind of cringeworthy, vulgar stupidity that defines Zionism in the minds of so many critics...it speaks for itself

Palestinians are not Arabs or Semites.

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples"
Palestinian Myths

3'rd millennium BC : The Canaanites were the earliest known inhabitants of Palestine. They became urbanized and lived in city-states, one of which was Jericho . Brief history of Palestine - Palestine - Home of history


The Philistines were not Arabs nor even Semites, they were most closely related to the Greeks. They did not speak Arabic. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina"; which is derived from the Plesheth, (root palash) was a general term meaning rolling or migratory. This referred to the Philistine's invasion and conquest of the coast from the sea.
The History of the Words Palestine And Palestinians

What viable sources do you have to prove that Palestinians are Arabs or Semites?

Palestinians are not Arabs or Semites.

So?

What viable sources do you have to prove that Palestinians are Arabs or Semites?

What difference does it make?

Your poor reading comprehension is very apparent.
 

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