An american tragedy

[LilOlLady]

AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY

43,000 American dies each year be cause they do not have access to healthcare or have healthcare and cannot afford to use it by paying premiums, co-payments and deductions. Senior citizens are taking half their medicine so they do not have to choose between their medicine and food and eating government commodities, which is high in salt and fat because of high cost of Medicare Advantage plan.

Even Saddam did not kill 43,000 Iraqis a year and we called him a monster and killed him. If this was happening in any other country we would call it inhumane. But we allow 43,000 American to die each years because we refuse to help them and we are a Christian nation and the richest nation in the world.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY

43,000 American dies each year be cause they do not have access to healthcare or have healthcare and cannot afford to use it by paying premiums, co-payments and deductions. Senior citizens are taking half their medicine so they do not have to choose between their medicine and food and eating government commodities, which is high in salt and fat because of high cost of Medicare Advantage plan.

Even Saddam did not kill 43,000 Iraqis a year and we called him a monster and killed him. If this was happening in any other country we would call it inhumane. But we allow 43,000 American to die each years because we refuse to help them and we are a Christian nation and the richest nation in the world.

Yeah, you are going to have show me how 43,000 deaths directly correlate to no healthcare insurance.

Also, the government isn't killing people. Saddam actually killed people and ordered it to be done. You equating the two is downright stupid.

 

[Tom Clancy]

And you think the Government would do any better? I still don't see the logic why Corporations are raising prices when the economy is in the gutter..

Next thing.. How are we suppose to pay for it?

 

[elvis]

And you think the Government would do any better? I still don't see the logic why Corporations are raising prices when the economy is in the gutter..

Next thing.. How are we suppose to pay for it?

with what Keynes called "legislative will".

 

[Bfgrn]

And you think the Government would do any better? I still don't see the logic why Corporations are raising prices when the economy is in the gutter..

Next thing.. How are we suppose to pay for it?

Yes...it's works in every other industrialized country...

Universal health care is implemented in all industrialized countries, with the exception of the United States. It is also provided in many developing countries.

Charts. Healthcare costs. Americans pay more per person for healthcare than people in all other nations. Yet its health statistics lag behind. The USA prefers to imprison its population rather than provide universal healthcare and a safety net.

 

[PixieStix]

AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY

43,000 American dies each year be cause they do not have access to healthcare or have healthcare and cannot afford to use it by paying premiums, co-payments and deductions. Senior citizens are taking half their medicine so they do not have to choose between their medicine and food and eating government commodities, which is high in salt and fat because of high cost of Medicare Advantage plan.

Even Saddam did not kill 43,000 Iraqis a year and we called him a monster and killed him. If this was happening in any other country we would call it inhumane. But we allow 43,000 American to die each years because we refuse to help them and we are a Christian nation and the richest nation in the world.

Good grief

 

[AllieBaba]

There's no evidence that 43 thousand people die from lack of health coverage.

This only pops up every few weeks.

 

[editec]

They didn't die from a lack of health care.

They died pining for the fiords of their homeland.

 

[Mr Natural]

They didn't die from a lack of health care.

They died pining for the fiords of their homeland.

Where they would have gotten the healthcare they needed without going broke in the process.

 

[Claudette]

Or they might have died on a waiting list in their country.

Take your pick.

 

[AllieBaba]

Or just from crappy care, period.

Message boards

 

[Bfgrn]

There's no evidence that 43 thousand people die from lack of health coverage.

This only pops up every few weeks.

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | HarvardScience

 

[AllieBaba]

It's bullshit. That study in no way determines that lack of health care causes any deaths at all.

 

[Valerie]

When you're injured and in the emergency room, the last thing you want to have to do is fight for treatment. Fortunately, a federal law passed in 1986 to prohibit a practice commonly known as "patient dumping" gives you the right to emergency care regardless of your ability to pay. The federal law applies to hospitals that participate in Medicare -- and that includes most hospitals in the United States. However, the patient-dumping law does not give you carte blanche.

What you're entitled to

In a nutshell, the federal patient-dumping law entitles you to three things: screening, emergency care and appropriate transfers. A hospital must provide "stabilizing care" for a patient with an emergency medical condition. The hospital must screen for the emergency and provide the care without inquiring about your ability to pay.

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Know your emergency room rights - MSN Money

 

[Stephanie]

and they accuse Conservative and Republicans of FEARMONGERING.

good grief.

 

[Valerie]

When you're injured and in the emergency room, the last thing you want to have to do is fight for treatment. Fortunately, a federal law passed in 1986 to prohibit a practice commonly known as "patient dumping" gives you the right to emergency care regardless of your ability to pay. The federal law applies to hospitals that participate in Medicare -- and that includes most hospitals in the United States. However, the patient-dumping law does not give you carte blanche.

What you're entitled to

In a nutshell, the federal patient-dumping law entitles you to three things: screening, emergency care and appropriate transfers. A hospital must provide "stabilizing care" for a patient with an emergency medical condition. The hospital must screen for the emergency and provide the care without inquiring about your ability to pay.

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Know your emergency room rights - MSN Money

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State by state

Individual state regulations also have a bearing on the way you're treated in an emergency room, and upon your health insurer's decision to pay for that treatment.

The federal law allows you basic rights, and your state laws may provide you with some additional rights. If you feel that you have been treated unfairly, either by the hospital or by your insurance company, try calling your state's department of health. If you feel that your insurance company is unjustly denying payment, try your state's insurance department.

Some states also have a regulation that requires insurance companies to pay for emergency room care if a "prudent layperson, acting reasonably," would have considered the situation a medical emergency.



What is considered an emergency situation?

According to the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA), an emergency medical condition means:

(A) a medical condition manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in:

* placing the health of the individual (or, with respect to a pregnant woman, the health of the woman or her unborn child) in serious jeopardy

* serious impairment to bodily functions, or

* serious dysfunction of any bodily organ or part; or

(B) with respect to a pregnant woman who is having contractions:

* that there is inadequate time to make a safe transfer to another hospital before delivery, or

* that transfer may pose a threat to the health or safety of the woman or the unborn child.

 

[editec]

It's bullshit. That study in no way determines that lack of health care causes any deaths at all.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

 

[Bfgrn]

It's bullshit. That study in no way determines that lack of health care causes any deaths at all.

If they cut the number in half it wouldn't make you right wingers any less pieces of scum

 

[Valerie]

ADVANCING THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELL-BEING OF OUR PEOPLE

The Department of Health and Human Services enhances the health and well-being of Americans by providing for effective health and human services and by fostering sound, sustained advances in the sciences underlying medicine, public health, and social services.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Budget, consistent with the President’s goals, invests in health care, disease prevention, social services, and scientific research. These investments will enable HHS to protect the health of all Americans and provide essential human services, especially for those who are least able to help themselves. The President’s FY 2011 Budget totals $911 billion in outlays, an increase of $51 billion over FY 2010. The Budget proposes $81 billion in discretionary budget authority, an increase of $2.3 billion over FY 2010 on a comparable basis. HHS’s portion of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Recovery Act) addresses and responds to critical challenges in our health care and human services systems through investments that immediately impact the lives of Americans. To fulfill the President’s health care vision, the Budget builds on Recovery Act investments and continues on the path to health insurance reform in key HHS priority areas.
http://www.hhs.gov/asrt/ob/docbudget/2011budgetinbrief.pdf

FY 2011 President's Budget for HHS

 

[AllieBaba]

Lol.

I'll bet those 43 thousand people all ate chocolate, too.

CHOCOLATE KILLS PEOPLE!