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My point is as stated, no weapons were found. Israels actions were an act of piracy.
I would consider gas masks, night vision goggles, and bullet prof vest military support equipment and not humanitarian aid.
What you consider them is your business. But they are not proscribed trade items and they are not weapons, so there presence is irrelevant. They do not change the fact that Israels actions were piratical, nor do they justify the attack.
....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
IDF: Global Jihad links on flotillaDuring its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navys takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israels blockade of the Gaza Strip.
I have to agree with curvelight. None of the items you mention are weapons, ergo there presence on the ships does not constitute grounds for an attack. In addition there is a term for attacking ships in international waters, it's called piracy and is punishable by death.
Propaganda swallowed by fucking fools. Let's see....
None of the listed items are anything to get concerned about and all have defensive purposes more than offensive. Common sense intercedes yet again: medicinal gas masks could be used by doctors and other rescue workers to aid victims of a bombing. The prescription NVGs would be used by the same personnel and the bullet proof vests could have been on their way to iraq to help cover the shortage of them for our soldiers. Okay....maybe not. But the vests could be used by civilians during a rocket attack. None of these items are weapons nor offensive oriented.
Then we come to the "possible Jihad connections." Who the fuck buys this shit? Wow.....is it at all possible Israel is under the gun for murdering unarmed civilians so now they need to scramble and justify it? They also claim these individuals had envelopes of cash......yep! Anyone with cash is a terrorist suspect!
Let's inject common sense again.....this flotilla had been widely advertised prior to setting sail. These people wanted to make sure the world knew what they were doing and when they would be doing it. So, they thought, "Hey! This would be a great time to try and smuggle! We have very little chance of encountering any IDF along the way!"
If Israel claimed they found Saddam Hussein some dumbasses would repeat that to help try and justify the outright fucking murder.
Oh yeah....one last point. The IDF keeps claiming the flotillas were "prepared" to engage the IDF in a violent clash. Ummm....yeah.....because we all know some chairs from a passenger boat are all you need upon entering a fire fight with a fucking naval force with air support.
This whole fucking thing is sick.
....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
During its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navys takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israels blockade of the Gaza Strip.
jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177169]IDF: Global Jihad links on flotilla[/url]
Be careful what you believe dude.....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
During its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navys takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israels blockade of the Gaza Strip.
jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177169]IDF: Global Jihad links on flotilla[/url]
Right. And you know this because Israel told you so? You've never heard of "disinformation"?
They did have a supply of sticks which they would use defensively if attacked. If you want to call these weapons go ahead but they're not much use against live ammo.
....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
During its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navys takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israels blockade of the Gaza Strip.
jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177169]IDF: Global Jihad links on flotilla[/url]
Right. And you know this because Israel told you so? You've never heard of "disinformation"?
They did have a supply of sticks which they would use defensively if attacked. If you want to call these weapons go ahead but they're not much use against live ammo.
....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
IDF: Global Jihad links on flotilla
I have to agree with curvelight. None of the items you mention are weapons, ergo there presence on the ships does not constitute grounds for an attack. In addition there is a term for attacking ships in international waters, it's called piracy and is punishable by death.
First: Israel does not have to justify stopping the flotilla by finding weapons. They had the right to stop and search those ships.
Second: If the cargo was humanitarian, as the peace activists claimed, why were these items even there.
Third: These items prove that Israel was right to insist that all cargoe bound for Gaza be inspected. In other words, they prove them right, not you.
I am unsure of your definition of humanitarian aid?
By definition humanitarian aid is food, water and medical aid.
My point is as stated, no weapons were found. Israels actions were an act of piracy.
We all know you stated your point, but your point is weak, at best. Vests, IR goggles and gas masks are things you give military personell. Argueing this fact is pointless and only serves to undermine your credibility.
I should also point out how much those things cost. They are enormously expensive. Given that they feel they can afford to waste that kind of money on things that wont help the average Palestinian family, i tend to believe they arent in need of aid at all.
So their instincts to search the ship were valid.....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
IDF: Global Jihad links on flotillaDuring its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navys takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israels blockade of the Gaza Strip.
Do you really need to do this shit?
I am unsure of your definition of humanitarian aid?
By definition humanitarian aid is food, water and medical aid.
My point is as stated, no weapons were found. Israels actions were an act of piracy.
We all know you stated your point, but your point is weak, at best. Vests, IR goggles and gas masks are things you give military personell. Argueing this fact is pointless and only serves to undermine your credibility.
I should also point out how much those things cost. They are enormously expensive. Given that they feel they can afford to waste that kind of money on things that wont help the average Palestinian family, i tend to believe they arent in need of aid at all.
So their instincts to search the ship were valid.....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
IDF: Global Jihad links on flotillaDuring its searches of the Mavi Marmara on Tuesday, the military also discovered a cache of bulletproof vests and night-vision goggles, as well as gas masks. On Monday morning, at least nine foreign activists were killed during the navys takeover of the Mavi Marmara, which was trying to break Israels blockade of the Gaza Strip.
It is a shame that this seems to be destroying their relationship with Turkey.
The "humanitarians" were trying to smuggle in items that could be used by terrorists.My point is as stated, no weapons were found. Israels actions were an act of piracy.
We all know you stated your point, but your point is weak, at best. Vests, IR goggles and gas masks are things you give military personell. Argueing this fact is pointless and only serves to undermine your credibility.
I should also point out how much those things cost. They are enormously expensive. Given that they feel they can afford to waste that kind of money on things that wont help the average Palestinian family, i tend to believe they arent in need of aid at all.
So their instincts to search the ship were valid.....therapeutic bullet-proof vests, medicinal gas masks, and prescription night-vision goggles.
IDF: Global Jihad links on flotilla
It is a shame that this seems to be destroying their relationship with Turkey.
How were their instincts correct?
If Iran boarded a passenger ship and murdered people most fuckers here would be screaming bloody nuclear bombs but since Israel did it............well.....it's awwwwllll good!
How were their instincts correct?
If Iran boarded a passenger ship and murdered people most fuckers here would be screaming bloody nuclear bombs but since Israel did it............well.....it's awwwwllll good!
Do you really need to do this shit?
Propaganda swallowed by fucking fools. Let's see....
None of the listed items are anything to get concerned about and all have defensive purposes more than offensive. Common sense intercedes yet again: medicinal gas masks could be used by doctors and other rescue workers to aid victims of a bombing. The prescription NVGs would be used by the same personnel and the bullet proof vests could have been on their way to iraq to help cover the shortage of them for our soldiers. Okay....maybe not. But the vests could be used by civilians during a rocket attack. None of these items are weapons nor offensive oriented.
Then we come to the "possible Jihad connections." Who the fuck buys this shit? Wow.....is it at all possible Israel is under the gun for murdering unarmed civilians so now they need to scramble and justify it? They also claim these individuals had envelopes of cash......yep! Anyone with cash is a terrorist suspect!
Let's inject common sense again.....this flotilla had been widely advertised prior to setting sail. These people wanted to make sure the world knew what they were doing and when they would be doing it. So, they thought, "Hey! This would be a great time to try and smuggle! We have very little chance of encountering any IDF along the way!"
If Israel claimed they found Saddam Hussein some dumbasses would repeat that to help try and justify the outright fucking murder.
Oh yeah....one last point. The IDF keeps claiming the flotillas were "prepared" to engage the IDF in a violent clash. Ummm....yeah.....because we all know some chairs from a passenger boat are all you need upon entering a fire fight with a fucking naval force with air support.
This whole fucking thing is sick.
The "humanitarians" were trying to smuggle in items that could be used by terrorists.We all know you stated your point, but your point is weak, at best. Vests, IR goggles and gas masks are things you give military personell. Argueing this fact is pointless and only serves to undermine your credibility.
I should also point out how much those things cost. They are enormously expensive. Given that they feel they can afford to waste that kind of money on things that wont help the average Palestinian family, i tend to believe they arent in need of aid at all.
So their instincts to search the ship were valid.
It is a shame that this seems to be destroying their relationship with Turkey.
How were their instincts correct?
If Iran boarded a passenger ship and murdered people most fuckers here would be screaming bloody nuclear bombs but since Israel did it............well.....it's awwwwllll good!
I wouldn't call it good will, I'd call it protecting their interests.
The "humanitarians" were trying to smuggle in items that could be used by terrorists.We all know you stated your point, but your point is weak, at best. Vests, IR goggles and gas masks are things you give military personell. Argueing this fact is pointless and only serves to undermine your credibility.
I should also point out how much those things cost. They are enormously expensive. Given that they feel they can afford to waste that kind of money on things that wont help the average Palestinian family, i tend to believe they arent in need of aid at all.
So their instincts to search the ship were valid.
It is a shame that this seems to be destroying their relationship with Turkey.
How were their instincts correct?
If Iran boarded a passenger ship and murdered people most fuckers here would be screaming bloody nuclear bombs but since Israel did it............well.....it's awwwwllll good!
I wouldn't call it good will, I'd call it protecting their interests.
How were their instincts correct?
If Iran boarded a passenger ship and murdered people most fuckers here would be screaming bloody nuclear bombs but since Israel did it............well.....it's awwwwllll good!
Who said its good?
More hyperbolic froth from Curvey?
What a surprise.
***Yawn***
Propaganda swallowed by fucking fools. Let's see....
None of the listed items are anything to get concerned about and all have defensive purposes more than offensive. Common sense intercedes yet again: medicinal gas masks could be used by doctors and other rescue workers to aid victims of a bombing. The prescription NVGs would be used by the same personnel and the bullet proof vests could have been on their way to iraq to help cover the shortage of them for our soldiers. Okay....maybe not. But the vests could be used by civilians during a rocket attack. None of these items are weapons nor offensive oriented.
Then we come to the "possible Jihad connections." Who the fuck buys this shit? Wow.....is it at all possible Israel is under the gun for murdering unarmed civilians so now they need to scramble and justify it? They also claim these individuals had envelopes of cash......yep! Anyone with cash is a terrorist suspect!
Let's inject common sense again.....this flotilla had been widely advertised prior to setting sail. These people wanted to make sure the world knew what they were doing and when they would be doing it. So, they thought, "Hey! This would be a great time to try and smuggle! We have very little chance of encountering any IDF along the way!"
If Israel claimed they found Saddam Hussein some dumbasses would repeat that to help try and justify the outright fucking murder.
Oh yeah....one last point. The IDF keeps claiming the flotillas were "prepared" to engage the IDF in a violent clash. Ummm....yeah.....because we all know some chairs from a passenger boat are all you need upon entering a fire fight with a fucking naval force with air support.
This whole fucking thing is sick.
You are quite naive. And mistaken. Did you actually watch any of the videos? Do you read the reports?
Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts Against the Safety of Maritime Navigation (Rome 1988)Article 3
1. Any person commits an offence if that person unlawfully and intentionally:
(a) seizes or exercises control over a ship by force or threat thereof or any other form of intimidation; or
(b) performs an act of violence against a person on board a ship if that act is likely to endanger the safe navigation of that ship; or
(c) destroys a ship or causes damage to a ship or to its cargo which is likely to endanger the safe navigation of that ship; or
(d) places or causes to be placed on a ship, by any means whatsoever, a device or substance which is likely to destroy that ship, or cause damage to that ship or its cargo which endangers or is likely to endanger the safe navigation of that ship; or
(e) destroys or seriously damages maritime navigational facilities or seriously interferes with their operation, if any such act is likely to endanger the safe navigation of a ship; or
(f) communicates information which he knows to be false, thereby endangering the safe navigation of a ship; or
(g) injures or kills any person, in connection with the commission or the attempted commission of any of the offences set forth in subparagraphs (a) to (f).
