Amnesty or path to citizenship.

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    AMNESTY OR PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.

    It makes no difference, the results are the same, they all get to stay and reap the benefits of a legal immigrant with family re-unifications, aka chain migration. They just don’t get to vote and most don’t give a damn about citizenship and voting any way. The criminal element of illegal immigration will not come out of the shadows and we will do nothing to round them up and deport them because it would “cost too much.”

    Military deployment separate families and is “inhumane” and “uncompassionate” but a necessary evil and over 6,000 families separated forever because of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Ending these wars will re-unite some families. Sometimes military deployment takes children from their home, family members and friends and the only country they have ever known and take them to a country where they do not know the “language” or the “culture” but I never heard anyone call this “inhumane” or “uncompassionate” or a “punishing the children.”

    Crimes committed by Illegal Aliens and Americans separates families but *** happens. Deportation reunites families and will help secure our borders and is the only “humane and compassionate” way to fix our illegal immigration problem and the crime that come with it. Deportation by attrition is offensive but deployment with children is not?

    We cannot afford another amnesty or path to citizenship with family re-unification of elderly and disabled, aka chain migration which will drain the economy and prolong the recession by way of the cost of Comprehensive Immigration Reform, education the children, cost of crime and incarceration, gangs and drugs, welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, WIC, Social Security and Medicare, SSI for the elderly, that has not contributed to their retirement. Plus a big plus, it will continue to displace Americans in the workforce because there are not enough jobs to go around in this never ending recession.

    Comprehensive Immigration Reform will end American as we know it forever. Mexico’s economy is thriving because we are taking care of it’s poor and under-educated. The American people need to fight any form of Comprehensive Immigration Reform as if their very lives depended on it. It is not about us or them but about future votes.

    Amnesty or path to citizenship, the result are the same, they all get to stay and more will come illegally to get in on the next amnesty or path to citizenship.
     
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    Pretty soon all you will have to do is climb the border to get full citizenship. This shit is ridiculous. Then again, this country does not seem to know what a criminal is at all anymore.
     
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    Where are the Afro-American leaders who should be standing up for displaced Afro American workers by Illegal Aliens?
     
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    12 million are already here. Ignoring them will not make them go away

    What do we do?

    Provide work visas allowning them to stay and pay taxes
    Fast track citizenship for those who serve four years in the military
    For those who are working, paying taxes and contributing to our society provide a clear path to becoming citizens
     
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    Something besides that BS. IMO deporting criminals is not a waste of money. It is cleaning up our streets. When we have an illegal break the law, send their ass back! Not give them 2 more chances! Fuck them lazy, leechy dont-give-a-fuck-about-America assholes
     
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    If you are worried about SS you should be glad they will be staying.

    That makes more workers per retiree and helps fix SS
     
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    I have no issue with deporting illegals who break the law. If they are contributing to our society, paying taxes and participating in our communities....I have no problem with welcoming them as Americans
     
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    First seal the borders. And I mean tight.
     
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    It is a win win for this country.

    the numbers of latino immigrants have been WAY to low for our real needs for decades.


    Racism in the system is why
     
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    why?
     
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    I have no problem welcoming them when they do it legally. "Hey they are a criminal, but since they have a job, lets just make them citizens" NO
     
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    is that why the humbers of latinos being allowed in legally have been so LOW for decades?
     
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    REAL NEEDS? We have a population problem now. We dont need criminals coming in and making it worse
     
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    they already pay taxes but it does not off set the benefits they receive at the tax payers expense and it will only increase the benefits they receive. They are low wage earners and pay very little in taxes if any.
    They would help us more by serving in Mexico's military and help fight drug cartels. We have to pay them and their families for them to serve in our military.
    Citizenship would create a permanent class system like India.
     
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    the number fwas made too low for our own American needs because of racism.

    stop the racism and allow in the number that this country needs.

    why the hell do you think they come?

    JOBS

    and who the hell do you think gives them the jobs?
     
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    If they were NOT needed then why did Americans keep hiring them?
     
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    Why is SS in trouble?
     
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    shut the fuck up donny
     
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    Our natural resources are at the brink of ecological collapse. Water not oil most valuable resource is already strained in places like Arizona, etc. we need a catastropic natural disaster to cut our population if we are going to survive.
     
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    we are NOT about to collapse due to population.

    jesus why do you say such stupid things?
     

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