America's infrastructure is collapsing.

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    America's infrastructure is collapsing. Tens of thousands of bridges are structurally deficient or functionally obsolete. A third of the nation's highways are in poor or mediocre shape. Massively leaking water and sewage systems are creating health hazards and contaminating rivers and streams. Weakened and under-maintained levees and dams tower over communities and schools. And the power grid is increasingly maxed out, disrupting millions of lives and putting entire cities in the dark. The Crumbling of America explores these problems using expert interviews, on location shooting and computer generated animation to illustrate the kinds of infrastructure disasters that could be just around the bend.

    The Crumbling of America

    In reality, little of the $850 billion American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009 proposed by congressional Democrats will actually be spent on actual road and bridge projects – the sort of things most people think of when they hear infrastructure spending, according to the office of Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.



    The recent proposal distributed by congressional Democrats will provide only an additional $15 billion in 2009 and 2010 for road construction and repair. And of that $30 billion total provided, some funds are earmarked for narrow uses such as technology training or construction of roads on Indian reservations and in national parks.



    According to those calculations, that’s just a little more than 3 percent meant to be spent on actual road and bridge construction. Compare that $30 billion allocated in this bill to the most expensive road project in U.S. history – the infamous “Big Dig” of Massachusetts. The final tally puts the cost of this road project to $15 billion and estimates say it will end up costing $22 billion by the year 2038. The $30 billion in this package would just be enough to cover the costs of that one project and a few smaller plans.
    Debunking Stimulus Myth: Only 3% Allotted for Road, Bridge Infrastructure Spending

    While many of you may agree or disagree on the Stimulus and those of you who have read my postings on the subject know where I stand. There is no doubt that many of this nations highways, and bridges are falling apart due to decades of neglect. It would seem that to focus on projects that are both long term and short term is a good thing, in terms of jobs and actually stimulating construction and transportation. In my opinion roads and bridges are for the most part other than those that are part of the interstate system an issue for states to resolve. Many of these states are soon going to be faced with massive unfunded mandates from a healthcare bill and almost all of them are facing a budget crisis. Faced with the prospect of cutting in order to meet these mandates it does not bode well for these road projects. It makes much more sense, at least in real terms to actually reform healthcare and the PRIVATE marketplace, rather than to place a burden on the states and continue to watch the infrasctucture crumble.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    do you remember when I posted threads about this while Bush was preesident?

    You guys blew a gasket.
     
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    A bigger, but probably related, problem is that America's RACIAL INFRASTRUCTURE is crumbling.

    A majority-minority country, like the one we're headed toward, will look more like Africa/Mexico/Brazil/Pakistan in ways not restricted to the population. We'll also have their crumbling or non-existent physical infrastructure. One follows the other.
     
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    Fuck off you assminer.
     
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    So you advocated that states should focus on infrastructure and private market place reforms for healthcare rather than federal Mandates at the expense of those projects? Interesting, I would have like to have seen that. If you did, then you would not have gotten much argument from me.
     
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    I was dumb enough to believe this bridge collapse in Minnesota during rush hour in 2007 would be a wake-up call.

    Bridge Collapse- msnbc.com

    Here is a link to the more than 70 thousand bridges, by state, deemed unsafe by government inspectors.

    I admit, I have been disappointed by the Obama Administrations slow movement getting this funding going. When you rebuild America's infrastructure, that generates "good" jobs, which in-turn creates a tax base, which in turn generates revenue to rebuild more infrastructure.

    This is one of the things Republicans have been AGAINST. Why? I don't know. You'll have to ask them. Seems like a no brain-er to me. After all, the collapse happened on their watch and they did nothing. But, we had more independent things to do. There are camel jockeys 12 thousand miles away that might, they might, wait a second, what might they do?

    Even now, Republicans are dead set against rebuilding America's infrastructure. They call that "pork".
     
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    Government sucks at infrastructure just like they suck at everything else. When you have a monopoly backed by violence running something it should be pretty obvious they are gonna be shitty at what they give you in return.
     
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    US President George W. Bush signed a $286.5bn highway bill on Wednesday that he said would create new jobs but which critics contend is stuffed with billions of dollars worth of lawmakers’ pet projects.

    The legislation funds road and mass transit construction for six years, but also contains $24 billion in “pork” -- special add-ons initiated by members of the Senate and House of Representatives to curry favor in their home districts. “The bill ... is going to help give hundreds of thousands of Americans good paying jobs,” Bush said. “Our economy depends on us having the most efficient, reliable transportation system in the world and if we want people working in America we’ve got to make sure our highways and roads are
    Bush: $286 billion highway bill (incl. $24 billion in pork) "creates jobs" - Democratic Underground

    First, speaking only for myself here, I'm not against spending on interstate highways and roads and other projects that the Federal Govt. regulates, however where I think you see many people express disappointment is when you see spending for such projects get diverted into things that have no bearing on the building of those roads ( i.e. pork) Like for example, a million dollars on a sex education program in a roads bill? Thats where I think you see the seperation. The other thing is when you see a small percentage of the money actually used on those projects and most of it diverted for other uses as the roads and other infrastructure continues to fall apart.
     
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