America's Creeping Police State

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    America's Creeping Police State | Civil Liberties | AlterNet
     
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    and this is where we find dueling stances all the time

    being that some of us see our freedoms as an unalterable altruism, i.e.-one can't be just a little pregnant


    while others would argue altrusims a self destructive futility, accepting a little corruption as modus operandi in even the most pristine of systems


    the former subscribing to collectivism as the true protectorate of freedom, the latter a libertopian stance

    choosin' is a b*tch , but i have more respect for those who stick to thier guns , as opposed to those who vasilate bettween the two for the sake of their own hide

    ~S~
     
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    Was Chalmers Johnson a drug pusher?
     
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    and did he eat kittens?
     
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    "Creeping" :confused:
    Any faster and there would be a sonic boom !
     
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    From the linked article:

    The Kentucky Supreme Court had overturned the man’s conviction and ruled that exigent circumstances did not apply because the behavior of the police is what prompted the destruction of evidence.

    The police were at the front door for a reason.

    Civil Liberty doesn't mean we are at liberty to circumvent laws just because we can get away with it, or because we disagree with existing law.

    There is no "creeping police state" in this country. There is however increasing dissatisfaction with the application of existing laws and an increasing desire to flaunt those laws by breaking them in the name of "Civil Liberty".
     
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    Yes it does.
     
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    There is a process by which laws are written, amended, or stricken down.
    Circumventing the process through scofflaw behavior isn't part of that process.
     
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    So... about that whole 'war for independence' thing...?
     
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    What about it? Wasn't that a couple of centuries ago?
     
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