Americans seek 'war crimes' charges against Hamas leaders

[pbel]

Wouldn't it be funny if in the near future we saw the Hamas leadership along with Netanyahu and his gang were all sitting in the same cells playing Pinochle blaming each other for their collective fate?

Clearly both gangs committed war crimes in the last Gaza War, all caught on film for he world to witness. It's not so far-fetched...


Americans seek war crimes charges against Hamas leaders - Yahoo News

Jerusalem (AFP) - Twenty-six Americans filed a complaint on Tuesday to the US Attorney General requesting the justice ministry prosecute Hamas leaders for "war crimes," the Israeli legal group representing them said.

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Shurat Hadin announced the move a day before the Palestinians officially become members of the International Crime Court, where they hope to see Israeli officials prosecuted for similar offences.

"We can't sit idly by. We need to fight back," said Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, the director of the non-governmental organisation

 

[Kondor3]

In order to be bound by the rulings of the ICC, one must first subscribe to the jurisdiction of the ICC.

Neither the United States nor Israel are presently subscribed to that jurisdiction.

Good luck, generating anything but toilet paper out of that venue, as it pertains to either the US or Israel.

Frankly, any writ coming out of there - once extensively copied - will do nothing more than to increase the Strategic Toilet Paper Reserve of Israel.

They'll wipe their asses with it.

And laugh while they're doing it.

Besides... there's a lot of Euro-Trash willing to kowtow to the Arabs in order to keep the oil flowing.

Hardly the most objective venue on the face of the planet.

 

[Phoenall]

In order to be bound by the rulings of the ICC, one must first subscribe to the jurisdiction of the ICC.

Neither the United States nor Israel are presently subscribed to that jurisdiction.

Good luck, generating anything but toilet paper out of that venue, as it pertains to either the US or Israel.

Frankly, any writ coming out of there - once extensively copied - will do nothing more than to increase the Strategic Toilet Paper Reserve of Israel.

They'll wipe their asses with it.

And laugh while they're doing it.

Besides... there's a lot of Euro-Trash willing to kowtow to the Arabs in order to keep the oil flowing.

Hardly the most objective venue on the face of the planet.

They are not going through the ICC are they, but going through the US court system. This means that any hamas official who sets foot in the US will face arrest and possible action to recover damages. It is the same tactic that the P.A. tried some years back in the UK, and now the UK has changed the laws so that Israelis no longer face arrest when travelling to the UK. The P.A. has to provide UK private police to issue the arrest warrants, and they don't come cheap with the amount of personal insurance they have to pay. Guess the P.A. is losing again, how many times have they lost up to now ?

 

[Phoenall]

In order to be bound by the rulings of the ICC, one must first subscribe to the jurisdiction of the ICC.

Neither the United States nor Israel are presently subscribed to that jurisdiction.

Good luck, generating anything but toilet paper out of that venue, as it pertains to either the US or Israel.

Frankly, any writ coming out of there - once extensively copied - will do nothing more than to increase the Strategic Toilet Paper Reserve of Israel.

They'll wipe their asses with it.

And laugh while they're doing it.

Besides... there's a lot of Euro-Trash willing to kowtow to the Arabs in order to keep the oil flowing.

Hardly the most objective venue on the face of the planet.

In order to be bound by the rulings of the ICC, one must first subscribe to the jurisdiction of the ICC.

Neither the United States nor Israel are presently subscribed to that jurisdiction.

Good luck, generating anything but toilet paper out of that venue, as it pertains to either the US or Israel.

Frankly, any writ coming out of there - once extensively copied - will do nothing more than to increase the Strategic Toilet Paper Reserve of Israel.

They'll wipe their asses with it.

And laugh while they're doing it.

Besides... there's a lot of Euro-Trash willing to kowtow to the Arabs in order to keep the oil flowing.

Hardly the most objective venue on the face of the planet.

I have to agree with you on this one...Netanyahu promised to give three rolls of triple ply Kondor Toilet paper to each citizen of Israel, all thanks to you!

Nothing to do with the ICC but it is still International law and can be exercised in most countries. Very soon the P.A. wont be able to send anyone to the U.N. without them getting arrested.

OH DEAR WHAT A PITY............. NEVER MIND

 

[Kondor3]

In order to be bound by the rulings of the ICC, one must first subscribe to the jurisdiction of the ICC.

Neither the United States nor Israel are presently subscribed to that jurisdiction.

Good luck, generating anything but toilet paper out of that venue, as it pertains to either the US or Israel.

Frankly, any writ coming out of there - once extensively copied - will do nothing more than to increase the Strategic Toilet Paper Reserve of Israel.

They'll wipe their asses with it.

And laugh while they're doing it.

Besides... there's a lot of Euro-Trash willing to kowtow to the Arabs in order to keep the oil flowing.

Hardly the most objective venue on the face of the planet.

They are not going through the ICC are they, but going through the US court system. This means that any hamas official who sets foot in the US will face arrest and possible action to recover damages. It is the same tactic that the P.A. tried some years back in the UK, and now the UK has changed the laws so that Israelis no longer face arrest when travelling to the UK. The P.A. has to provide UK private police to issue the arrest warrants, and they don't come cheap with the amount of personal insurance they have to pay. Guess the P.A. is losing again, how many times have they lost up to now ?

Nobody ever accused the Palestinians of an over-abundance of intelligence, in matters of negotiation, and policy.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

Most especially one that lies between the ears - as it does with the leadership of Hamas, Fatah, et al.

Nature has de-selected them.

One of these days, in the not too distant future, this Collective Walking Corpse will figure it out, and lie down, and be still.

As more and more Gazans and West Bankers figure it out, and pack up, and leave for greener and more peaceful pastures.

 

[Penelope]

Shows how hard up they are. A jewish law firm probably has a nice jewish judge.

Israel is not a member of the ICC and cannot file complaints there against Palestinians.

 

[Phoenall]

Shows how hard up they are. A jewish law firm probably has a nice jewish judge.

Israel is not a member of the ICC and cannot file complaints there against Palestinians.

But the P.A. is and they have just been told that Israel is not guilty of war crimes last summer, but hamas is. So Abu Mazen has dropped the complaint because it could lead to International arrest warrants being issued for P.A. officials

 

[P F Tinmore]

Shows how hard up they are. A jewish law firm probably has a nice jewish judge.

Israel is not a member of the ICC and cannot file complaints there against Palestinians.

Interesting point. One judge in the US had to recuse himself from a Palestinian case because he had investments in Israel.

So good luck finding a judge without a conflict of interest like a family member who has Israeli citizenship, a son who served in the IDF, investments, or any other connection with Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

Shows how hard up they are. A jewish law firm probably has a nice jewish judge.

Israel is not a member of the ICC and cannot file complaints there against Palestinians.

Interesting point. One judge in the US had to recuse himself from a Palestinian case because he had investments in Israel.

So good luck finding a judge without a conflict of interest like a family member who has Israeli citizenship, a son who served in the IDF, investments, or any other connection with Israel.

Not as big a problem as you seem to think, the numbers of similar cases heard in the US in recent years as the people bringing the cases are American citizens and not Israeli's.

Guess you didn't read the OP very carefully and thought it was the Jews bringing the cases.

 

[montelatici]

"Prosecutors at the International Criminal Court opened a preliminary examination on Friday of possible war crimes committed in the Palestinianterritories, the first formal step that could lead to charges against Israelis."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/w...inian-war-crimes-inquiry.html?ref=topics&_r=0

 

[P F Tinmore]

Shows how hard up they are. A jewish law firm probably has a nice jewish judge.

Israel is not a member of the ICC and cannot file complaints there against Palestinians.

But the P.A. is and they have just been told that Israel is not guilty of war crimes last summer, but hamas is. So Abu Mazen has dropped the complaint because it could lead to International arrest warrants being issued for P.A. officials

Abu Mazen Got the approval to join the court from Hamas and the other factions. Evidently they think they have a good defense.

 

[Phoenall]

"Prosecutors at the International Criminal Court opened a preliminary examination on Friday of possible war crimes committed in the Palestinianterritories, the first formal step that could lead to charges against Israelis."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/w...inian-war-crimes-inquiry.html?ref=topics&_r=0

It is now April 1st and the ICC have released the report that shows that hamas is gulty of war crimes, so Abu Mazen withdraws his complaint.

Link posted not that long ago

 

[Phoenall]

Shows how hard up they are. A jewish law firm probably has a nice jewish judge.

Israel is not a member of the ICC and cannot file complaints there against Palestinians.

But the P.A. is and they have just been told that Israel is not guilty of war crimes last summer, but hamas is. So Abu Mazen has dropped the complaint because it could lead to International arrest warrants being issued for P.A. officials

Abu Mazen Got the approval to join the court from Hamas and the other factions. Evidently they think they have a good defense.

Did but not any more after the report this week. That is when abbas withdrerw the complaint.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

It could also lead to charges against the Palestinians.

"Prosecutors at the International Criminal Court opened a preliminary examination on Friday of possible war crimes committed in the Palestinian territories, the first formal step that could lead to charges against Israelis."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/w...inian-war-crimes-inquiry.html?ref=topics&_r=0

(COMMENT)

If, during the course of a Preliminary Investigation (analyzing alleged crimes on the territories Palestine), evidence discovered that would lead the Prosecutor to believe probable cause exists under the statutory legal criteria of the ICC, the Prosecutor will opening an investigation. It is not (at least it is not suppose to be) a one sided examination into the activities of Israel.

Gathering of relevant information from reliable sources, from all sides and from anyone who chooses to provide such information and rigorous analysis and assessment of such information are key activities during this stage. The analyses is conducted independently and impartially on the basis of legal criteria specified in the Statute.

There are no timelines provided in the Rome Statute for a decision on a preliminary examination.

• ICC-OTP-20150116-PR1083 ICC opened a preliminary examination into the situation in Palestine
• ICC-CPI-20150401-PR1103 State of Palestine as the 123rd State Party to the Rome Statute

I'm not sure this is going to turn-out well for either side.

It will be interesting to see what the ICC has to say.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

"Prosecutors at the International Criminal Court opened a preliminary examination on Friday of possible war crimes committed in the Palestinianterritories, the first formal step that could lead to charges against Israelis."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/w...inian-war-crimes-inquiry.html?ref=topics&_r=0

Every year at least one or two of these anti Israel anti semtic bowel movements have to be brought forward for you terrorist worshippers to jerk yourselves off to. Remember how many mental masturbation sessions you had over the flottila incident? What will be in next years issue?

 

[Roudy]

Shows how hard up they are. A jewish law firm probably has a nice jewish judge.

Israel is not a member of the ICC and cannot file complaints there against Palestinians.

Interesting point. One judge in the US had to recuse himself from a Palestinian case because he had investments in Israel.

So good luck finding a judge without a conflict of interest like a family member who has Israeli citizenship, a son who served in the IDF, investments, or any other connection with Israel.

Righto. The Palestinians keep being found guilty of criminal barbaric behavior. Must be the judges, never the Palestinians.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

It could also lead to charges against the Palestinians.

"Prosecutors at the International Criminal Court opened a preliminary examination on Friday of possible war crimes committed in the Palestinian territories, the first formal step that could lead to charges against Israelis."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/w...inian-war-crimes-inquiry.html?ref=topics&_r=0

(COMMENT)

If, during the course of a Preliminary Investigation (analyzing alleged crimes on the territories Palestine), evidence discovered that would lead the Prosecutor to believe probable cause exists under the statutory legal criteria of the ICC, the Prosecutor will opening an investigation. It is not (at least it is not suppose to be) a one sided examination into the activities of Israel.

Gathering of relevant information from reliable sources, from all sides and from anyone who chooses to provide such information and rigorous analysis and assessment of such information are key activities during this stage. The analyses is conducted independently and impartially on the basis of legal criteria specified in the Statute.

There are no timelines provided in the Rome Statute for a decision on a preliminary examination.

• ICC-OTP-20150116-PR1083 ICC opened a preliminary examination into the situation in Palestine
• ICC-CPI-20150401-PR1103 State of Palestine as the 123rd State Party to the Rome Statute

I'm not sure this is going to turn-out well for either side.

It will be interesting to see what the ICC has to say.

Most Respectfully,
R

Preliminary report shows that they found many hamas war crimes and Abass withdrew his complaint