CDZ Americans funding terrorists

[Indofred]

NORAID was a major funder of the IRA terrorist group, and we all assumed it was a dead duck after the peace agreement, but the Continuity IRA and Real IRA are still active, and still getting funds from the US of A.
It's true, much of their funding comes from smuggling and other illegal activity, but one also has to look at who is involved in that.

U.S. businessman funded Real IRA soldier killers by smuggling cigarettes into Ireland Daily Mail Online

An American businessman has been accused of funding the Real IRA by masterminding a cigarette smuggling ring that has netted them hundreds of thousands of pounds.

The case highlights the criminal activities which underpin the funding of terrorism in Northern Ireland.

Roman Vidal, 57, arranged for shipments of millions of cigarettes from Panama to Dublin where they were collected by contacts linked to the terror group.

Boston was a major centre of terrorist funding, but I'm unsure they'll still be as keen on sending murder money after they tasted the realities of terrorism.

Will Boston still fund the Real IRA The Spectator

One of the first world statesmen to send a message of sympathy to Boston after last week’s outrage was Gerry Adams, president of Sinn Fein. ‘Just watching news of the explosion in Boston,’ he tweeted, ‘Sympathy with people of that fine city.’ Mr Adams has every reason to think fondly of Boston. Throughout the troubles, while he sat on the IRA war council, Boston was one of the major American centres which he (through Noraid) could rely on for support and funding. Bostonian money would have been used to help pay for the IRA attack on Margaret Thatcher’s democratically elected government in Brighton, the grotesque Birmingham pub bombings that left 21 dead, and of course the Lisburn van bombing of 15 June 1988. On that terrible occasion six off-duty British soldiers were killed by an IRA bomb just after they had completed a half-marathon for charity.

One wonder what the terrorist fund raises thought of the Boston bombs, and how those who contributed to terrorism reacted to the news of the bomb.
They were probably disgusted at whoever funded the terrorists that killed Americans.

I'm sure someone will remind us the real IRA was designated a terrorist group by the US government, but their sister terrorist group is still getting funds from America, as are the Real IRA.

Continuity Irish Republican Army CIRA

External Aid
Has received aid from a variety of groups and countries and considerable training and arms from Libya and, at one time, the PLO. May also have acquired arms and materiel from the Balkans in cooperation with the Real IRA. Also is suspected of receiving funds and arms from sympathizers in the United States.

Can we all join together in condemning Americans who fund and assist terrorist groups?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Can't condemn external terrorist support if those in your own country are guilty of what to others is also terrorism. Only difference being our 'terrorists' wear uniforms.

 

[Sonny Clark]

NORAID was a major funder of the IRA terrorist group, and we all assumed it was a dead duck after the peace agreement, but the Continuity IRA and Real IRA are still active, and still getting funds from the US of A.
It's true, much of their funding comes from smuggling and other illegal activity, but one also has to look at who is involved in that.

U.S. businessman funded Real IRA soldier killers by smuggling cigarettes into Ireland Daily Mail Online

An American businessman has been accused of funding the Real IRA by masterminding a cigarette smuggling ring that has netted them hundreds of thousands of pounds.

The case highlights the criminal activities which underpin the funding of terrorism in Northern Ireland.

Roman Vidal, 57, arranged for shipments of millions of cigarettes from Panama to Dublin where they were collected by contacts linked to the terror group.

Boston was a major centre of terrorist funding, but I'm unsure they'll still be as keen on sending murder money after they tasted the realities of terrorism.

Will Boston still fund the Real IRA The Spectator

One of the first world statesmen to send a message of sympathy to Boston after last week’s outrage was Gerry Adams, president of Sinn Fein. ‘Just watching news of the explosion in Boston,’ he tweeted, ‘Sympathy with people of that fine city.’ Mr Adams has every reason to think fondly of Boston. Throughout the troubles, while he sat on the IRA war council, Boston was one of the major American centres which he (through Noraid) could rely on for support and funding. Bostonian money would have been used to help pay for the IRA attack on Margaret Thatcher’s democratically elected government in Brighton, the grotesque Birmingham pub bombings that left 21 dead, and of course the Lisburn van bombing of 15 June 1988. On that terrible occasion six off-duty British soldiers were killed by an IRA bomb just after they had completed a half-marathon for charity.

One wonder what the terrorist fund raises thought of the Boston bombs, and how those who contributed to terrorism reacted to the news of the bomb.
They were probably disgusted at whoever funded the terrorists that killed Americans.

I'm sure someone will remind us the real IRA was designated a terrorist group by the US government, but their sister terrorist group is still getting funds from America, as are the Real IRA.

Continuity Irish Republican Army CIRA

External Aid
Has received aid from a variety of groups and countries and considerable training and arms from Libya and, at one time, the PLO. May also have acquired arms and materiel from the Balkans in cooperation with the Real IRA. Also is suspected of receiving funds and arms from sympathizers in the United States.

Can we all join together in condemning Americans who fund and assist terrorist groups?

Serious question: Is American businesses funding the IRA and different than the U.S. Government funding terrorists? If so, please explain the difference. Thanks. ( The U.S. Government uses taxpayers' hard earned dollars to fund terrorists ) [ Protecting the opium crops in Afghanistan that fund terrorists, and supplying weapons to known terrorists and terrorist groups ]

 

[Indofred]

Serious question: Is American businesses funding the IRA and different than the U.S. Government funding terrorists?

In scale and official sanction of terrorism.
I suppose the government are more hypocritical as they claim to be anti terrorist.

 

[Josf]

There are three traditional American methods of life, doing business, and governing.

1. Criminal methods, terrorists out in the open as far as the productive (targeted) people are concerned. This group will take-over, subdue, enslave, any competition except competition from either of two methods of governing, and this overt criminal group will hide from those two governing bodies.

2. Criminal methods under the color of law, or counterfeit government agencies which are overt, out in the open terrorists to any competition anywhere, including overt criminal groups and including any morality based government competition, as this group will take-over, subdue, enslave, annex, incorporate, monopolize, or destroy any competition except their own dominant group which are honored, as in honor among thieves, to be inside this dominant power group, or monopoly, and this group hides from the productive, targeted, people. So this group consists of obvious, demonstrable, criminal, terrorists to anyone failing to obey their criminal orders without question, as demonstrated most recently in Waco Texas, but the demonstrations of terrorism dealt out to anyone failing to obey criminal orders without question include Kent State, Martin Luther King Jr. Conspiracy Murder (proven to be one in a trial by jury case), and the list goes back in time a long, long, long, way. An early American History example of this type of terrorism by criminals under the color of law was the slaughtering of white settlers by hired criminals who were Indians, or hired criminals who dressed up as Indians, so as then to inspire the white settlers to give authority to those same terrorist criminals operating under the color of law some of their productive capacity (so called taxes which constituted extortion when this terrorist method is employed by the criminals posing as the government) so as to end the terror created by these terrorists who falsely accuse other Indians of having perpetrated the heinous crimes perpetrated by the employees who are then paid for by the so called tax (extortion) payers.

3. Liberty methods. This is the group that produce anything worth stealing, therefore this is the group that is always targeted for terrorism by all the criminals when the criminals are not fighting each other for exclusive access to this group. The criminal groups have learned to cooperate with each other so as to then divide up the areas of criminal operations into free crime zones, but the Liberty group members have figured that out, so the Liberty group members have created a process that disconnects the criminal groups from the productive target groups, and that process goes by many names such as: due process of law, rule of law, common law, trial by jury, trial by the country, and in Latin legem terrae, or in English the law of the land. The idea is not to terrorize the criminals who are accused of a crime, rather the idea is to presume innocence until proven guilty by a randomly selected number of peers selected out of the local area where the crime was perpetrated, and to then offer the suspected, but presumed to be innocent criminal the opportunity to answer any proof provided to the whole country - represented by jurors - which may inculpate the accused, and prove to the jury that the defendant was guilty in fact, and the whole country must unanimously agree - represented by jurors - that the presumed to be innocent accused is, in fact, lawfully guilty. And on top of that the process afforded those jurors (representing the whole country) was, is, and can be the lawful requirement of determining punishment at their unanimous (the country unanimously agrees through representation by those jurors) agreement. What this due process has done in the past, and what this process does now, and what this process can do in the future, is to steadily reduce the number of victims supplied to the criminals groups, which then increases the incentive for the criminal groups to fight each other over their declining, criminal, slave market, share.

What do you think children kidnaped and sold into the so called "human trafficking" trade feel when their life in Liberty suddenly turns into a life of crime as victim and then as fellow criminal if they too are turned?