Americans are idiots

Hey man, the communist thing is just a shtick. Like i've said before, my tone and attitude in my arguments match the counters i get. I'm like a mirror, your right hand is my left, we are all the same.
 
MrMarbles said:
Hey man, the communist thing is just a shtick. Like i've said before, my tone and attitude in my arguments match the counters i get. I'm like a mirror, your right hand is my left, we are all the same.


So you claim after being thoroughly routed. You're just another typical liberal pseudointellectual.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
So you claim after being thoroughly routed. You're just another typical liberal pseudointellectual.

Nah, i'm a lib. I haven't been routed, my exprience here has cemented my beliefs, thanks. You have given me a good look out how the other side thinks, and it is depressing.
 
MrMarbles said:
Nah, i'm a lib. I haven't been routed, my exprience here has cemented my beliefs, thanks. You have given me a good look out how the other side thinks, and it is depressing.


You depress me with your worship of illogic and steadfast avoidance of proven economic principles.

Socialism causes economic stagnation as innovation and hard work goes unrewarded, putting those good behaviors on extinguish, to flip into behavioral psychology parlance. Which part of this model do you think is inaccurate? Or do you know it's correct, but wish to deny it and play to people's base emotions of envy? OR are you an unthinking Degrassi Zombie.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
You depress me with your worship of illogic and steadfast avoidance of proven economic principles.

Socialism causes economic stagnation as innovation and hard work goes unrewarded, putting those good behaviors on extinguish, to flip into behavioral psychology parlance. Which part of this model do you think is inaccurate? Or do you know it's correct, but wish to deny it and play to people's base emotions of envy? OR are you an unthinking Degrassi Zombie.

I'm not denying that liberal ideals can hinder a economy, they can if not managed properly. Economic stagnation? That can happen anywhere. It happen to the Sates in the 30's, and again in the 80's. Then new, liberal ideas where brought forward, and things turned upwards. These things may be proven economic principles (but i'm sure you won't show any evidence of which, like anyother of your claims) but it is also proven to cause human rights disasters. If you want to rich that control your country to become more powerful, then do so and send your kids to work in the oil feilds, that will help a lot to further America's economy and line their pockets.
 
MrMarbles said:
I'm not denying that liberal ideals can hinder a economy, they can if not managed properly. Economic stagnation? That can happen anywhere. It happen to the Sates in the 30's, and again in the 80's. Then new, liberal ideas where brought forward, and things turned upwards. These things may be proven economic principles (but i'm sure you won't show any evidence of which, like anyother of your claims) but it is also proven to cause human rights disasters. If you want to rich that control your country to become more powerful, then do so and send your kids to work in the oil feilds, that will help a lot to further America's economy and line their pockets.

The 30's bust was due to irrational speculation not backed by covered investments or collateral. "Buying on margin". ANd the eighties were an amazing period of economic growth. You're just plain wrong on that one. An ideology based on lies will not serve you well, going forward. I suggest you board the clue train.

I'm glad you admitted liberal ideals can hinder an economy. THEY'RE NOT BEING MANAGED PROPERLY. Leftist politicians have gone so far in pandering to envy that they completely distort economic truths to their childish constituencies, and you go right along with it.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
The 30's bust was due to irrational speculation not backed by covered investments or collateral. "Buying on margin". ANd the eighties were an amazing period of economic growth. You're just plain wrong on that one. An ideology based on lies will not serve you well, going forward. I suggest you board the clue train.

I'm glad you admitted liberal ideals can hinder an economy. THEY'RE NOT BEING MANAGED PROPERLY. Leftist politicians have gone so far in pandering to envy that they completely distort economic truths to their childish constituencies, and you go right along with it.

The same economic shit that went on in the 20's and 30's is going on today. The US economy is heavily levraged on the vast American gold reserves and foreign oil. The economy is no doubt strong, but it is very succeptible to variations in the price of gold and oil.

Without the market checks and regulations, your "socialist" protections if you will, that can control these prices to a degree, the US economy would be more fragile than a house of cards in a hurricane.

I'm not advocating a socialist economy, just a regulated one.
 
MrMarbles said:
The same economic shit that went on in the 20's and 30's is going on today.The US economy is heavily levraged on the vast American gold reserves and foreign oil. The economy is no doubt strong, but it is very succeptible to variations in the price of gold and oil.

Without the market checks and regulations, your "socialist" protections if you will, that can control these prices to a degree, the US economy would be more fragile than a house of cards in a hurricane.

I'm not advocating a socialist economy, just a regulated one.

It's not even close. Your post is completely ridiculous. Step off.
 
MrMarbles said:
Fine. Close your eyes, plug your ears and begin to hum. That is the only way you can deny it.

Close my eyes to what? You have made no cohesive point whatsoever. Something about currency or the importance of oil? Please show the relevancy of your seemingly inchoate ramblings.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Close my eyes to what? You have made no cohesive point whatsoever. Something about currency or the importance of oil? Please show the relevancy of your seemingly inchoate ramblings.

What is the point? Plenty of times I, and others have showed you proof. And then you go and dismiss it. It is right in font of you, but you refuse to accept the truth. Then you give some bland all incompassing statement on how you are right, and refuse to show proof. You are a hypocrite. You can use fancy sayings, and poor grammar to try and hide it, but in the end you are still a hypocrite.
 
MrMarbles said:
What is the point? Plenty of times I, and others have showed you proof. And then you go and dismiss it. It is right in font of you, but you refuse to accept the truth. Then you give some bland all incompassing statement on how you are right, and refuse to show proof. You are a hypocrite. You can use fancy sayings, and poor grammar to try and hide it, but in the end you are still a hypocrite.

You have no point. I invite you to reiterate it. Socialism decouples an individuals success from his efforts. Hence, people stop trying, because it just doesn't matter. Society degrades. Then people start turning on each other along ethnic lines, and genocide begins. Socialism kills. Accept it.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
You have no point. I invite you to reiterate it. Socialism decouples an individuals success from his efforts. Hence, people stop trying, because it just doesn't matter. Society degrades. Then people start turning on each other along ethnic lines, and genocide begins. Socialism kills. Accept it.

So does neo-conservativism. They both can lead to bad things. But where socialism is there to provide and bo the people's bidding. Neo-con gov't are just there to enrich themselves on others. Their greed causes enoromous problems to others. Or unwillingness to understand how your actions hurt others will be your downfall.
 
MrMarbles said:
So does neo-conservativism. They both can lead to bad things. But where socialism is there to provide and bo the people's bidding. Neo-con gov't are just there to enrich themselves on others. Their greed causes enoromous problems to others. Or unwillingness to understand how your actions hurt others will be your downfall.

Cmon Marbles--there are greedy socialists that have thier own interests ahead of the interests of others--you know--the ones who are "more equal" than others?
 
MrMarbles said:
So does neo-conservativism. They both can lead to bad things. But where socialism is there to provide and bo the people's bidding. Neo-con gov't are just there to enrich themselves on others. Their greed causes enoromous problems to others. Or unwillingness to understand how your actions hurt others will be your downfall.

Does that mean that all neo-cons are rich?
 
MrMarbles said:
So does neo-conservativism. They both can lead to bad things. But where socialism is there to provide and bo the people's bidding. Neo-con gov't are just there to enrich themselves on others. Their greed causes enoromous problems to others. Or unwillingness to understand how your actions hurt others will be your downfall.


Wrong. Neocon governments are there to promote economic freedom for all, in light of proven economic realities, and the reality of how economic policy effects society. We are there to defend life sustaining free markets against the envy laden socialists, bent on destroying freedom on behalf of their covetous constituency.
 
dilloduck said:
Cmon Marbles--there are greedy socialists that have thier own interests ahead of the interests of others--you know--the ones who are "more equal" than others?

For sure. People will always try to exploit people, no matter the form of gov't. RWA wants a economy that will allow big bussiness to do whatever it likes, which, in the pursuit of making money, stomp on a lot of people. I don't want a communist form of economy, I want one with guidlines and rules.

Does that mean that all neo-cons are rich?

No. Lots just dream of a day when they can be like those in charge. Unfortunatley those in charge will not let anyone succeed, it will take away from their bottm line.

Wrong. Neocon governments are there to promote economic freedom for all, in light of proven economic realities, and the reality of how economic policy effects society. We are there to defend life sustaining free markets against the envy laden socialists, bent on destroying freedom on behalf of their covetous constituency.

Bin laden is a fanatical islamic terrorist, not a socialist. Free markets need restrictions and guidlines to prevent them from going to far. Again, a market that is allowed to do whatever it wants will jus implode on it's self. Ya depression!
 
MrMarbles said:
For sure. People will always try to exploit people, no matter the form of gov't. RWA wants a economy that will allow big bussiness to do whatever it likes, which, in the pursuit of making money, stomp on a lot of people. I don't want a communist form of economy, I want one with guidlines and rules.



No. Lots just dream of a day when they can be like those in charge. Unfortunatley those in charge will not let anyone succeed, it will take away from their bottm line.



Bin laden is a fanatical islamic terrorist, not a socialist. Free markets need restrictions and guidlines to prevent them from going to far. Again, a market that is allowed to do whatever it wants will jus implode on it's self. Ya depression!

Don't misrepresent my position please. I don't want big business to be able to do whatever it likes. They need to adhere to the laws like the rest of us.

Liberals, embittered by the own envy, look at the world in black and white terms: business bad, socialism good. They do this because they would rather use the power of government to steal from others than learn how to run a business and deal with all the paperwork.

Also they feel intellectually superior because they can regurgitate the wrong, and simplistic priniciples of socialism, due to their attendance of one our many fine leftist indoctrination universities. "Those who can't do, criticize".

Another thing. Libs have us believe that they push for socialism because they're morally superior, attempting to disabuse society of it's greed, when actually they simply wish to use the power of government for their own personal gain. At least business people admit they're in it to make money.

Business people must come up with a good or service people want . Libs seek to confiscate wealth from others, oblivious of what it means to EARN money by providing a marketable good or service.

And also. There is corruption in both business and government. However, corruption in business is controlled by a free market; a manager can only bilk so much and act a tyrant to the degree that he does not ruin his companies ability to compete against other companies. When the stock goes down, he's out of there. Government, having no competition, is only limited by the leaders willingness to use force and suppress information.

Think about it for awhile.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Don't misrepresent my position please. I don't want big business to be able to do whatever it likes. They need to adhere to the laws like the rest of us.

Liberals, embittered by the own envy, look at the world in black and white terms: business bad, socialism good. They do this because they would rather use the power of government to steal from others than learn how to run a business and deal with all the paperwork.

Also they feel intellectually superior because they can regurgitate the wrong, and simplistic priniciples of socialism, due to their attendance of one our many fine leftist indoctrination universities. "Those who can't do, criticize".

Another thing. Libs have us believe that they push for socialism because they're morally superior, attempting to disabuse society of it's greed, when actually they simply wish to use the power of government for their own personal gain. At least business people admit they're in it to make money.

Business people must come up with a good or service people want . Libs seek to confiscate wealth from others, oblivious of what it means to EARN money by providing a marketable good or service.

And also. There is corruption in both business and government. However, corruption in business is controlled by a free market; a manager can only bilk so much and act a tyrant to the degree that he does not ruin his companies ability to compete against other companies. When the stock goes down, he's out of there. Government, having no competition, is only limited by the leaders willingness to use force and suppress information.

Think about it for awhile.

Oh, oh, let me: The gov becomes the unregulated big business monopoly, which implodes from within...bad.
 
Said1 said:
Oh, oh, let me: The gov becomes the unregulated big business monopoly, which implodes from within...bad.


Yep. Go forth, said1, preach the truth across the frozen steppes of your lib-laden nation. The power of the truth will allow you to speak all languages, and give you energy inexhaustate.
 

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