American Jews and liberalism

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    Well, this is my first real post here and I thought I'd start off with something that's been on my mind lately. First, I am not really Jewish, but close. All of my mother's family going way back are Jewish but I was not raised as such. While I was snipped (!), no bar mitzvah, not really a Jew. Secondly, I am a decidedly limited government kind of guy. I'm a strong believer in that government which governs best governs least. Call it Libertarianism if you like, I reject big government from Conservatives and Liberals alike.

    What's on my mind is why so many Jewish Americans lean so heavily Left. Why do they seem to always vote Democrat? This question bugs me not just because of President Obama's recent comments about Israel's borders. The Democratic party and American Liberals in general seem to me to be the most fervent opposition to all things Israeli. For that reason alone, I don't understand why Jews give them undying support.

    Perhaps more importantly are the lessons apparently not learned from Nazi Germany. My great, great grandmother escaped Southern Germany before the Nazi's came to power, but for those that didn't, they experienced the worst kind tyrannous government. Whether you call the Nazi's National Socialists or Fascists, they certainly represented a top-down style of governance. Given the results of that big government experiment, I'm continually flabbergasted by American Jews support of ever bigger government. You'd think Jews today would be the most staunch limited government supporters out there but just the opposite is true.

    So, any Jews that can enlighten me as to why the community supports big government and the Liberal Democrats that seem to despise Israel?
     
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    Victims---Liberals love victims.
     
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    So you're what? Muslim? Christian?
    Okay? And?
    So far you just sound like a troll
    Culturally, they've learned to reject Jewish conservatism. Judaism is a truly violent religion, but those who claim to adhere to it rarely do. Ever since roman times, the Jews have been on the losing side, so they've come to identify strongly with the victim (real or imagined) in any given situation.
    Because, at this time, the Reps tend to be bigger bigots than the Dems
    I challenge you to find me ten Liberals in the Democratic party.

    Oh?

    Perhaps they expect to be on the right side this time.
     
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    Albeit Judaism was put on NOTICE by Obama last week...
     
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    When was this?

    You know not all self-identified Jews are Israelis or even Zionists, right?
     
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    jews fought for civil rights for blacks. we find the southern strategy an offense.
    jews are pro-choice. (if they weren't, their wives would kill them).
    jews know that the more moderate society, the better for jews since jews don't do well in extreme societies... right or left.
    jews have been subject to discrimination and vote against policies that smack of discrimination and racism...
    jews believe in education...
    jews believe in taking care of the poor and sick.

    not exactly a big leap.

    the only reason any jew is a neocon is israel...
     
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    If your mother is jewish, so are you.
     
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    Nazis are the opposite of socialists, liberal, democrats. Jews know their history, whereas there is some strange new history being promulgated by Fox, Rush etc; Neocons are the closest to Nazis we have- if they declare martial law they're THERE...
     
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    Nor does anyone else when the Jews are running it. See: Deuteronomy
    But their holy book says to kill the unbelievers...

    Sounds to me like (a) you're making up your own religion, placing your own will above God's law and (b) you think you speak for all Jews
     
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