American Indians Owned Slaves, Where’s the Outrage?

[MizMolly]

White people are funny. Whites tried to wipe out the Native Americans and you say this.

It is part of history that blacks who owned property owned slaves and so did the Indians. I know it sounds strange but it is the truth.

And the black posters believe the black slave owners treated their slaves well. LOL What a joke.

 

[Godboy]

Sure i have. I literally just quoted it.

But that was not racism.

Sure it was. You claimed that white people tried to wipe out the indians.

They did. Have you not looked at any american history at all?

Giving Indians their own land after they were utterly defeated, doesnt sound like genocide to me. Furthermore, "white people" werent responsible for it; it was some people who happened to be white, but certainly white people living in Australia cant be blamed for the plight of Indians in the US, so i reject your silly notion that the white race is to blame.

Unless you are willing to blame the entirety of the black race for gang violence in Chicago, shut the fuck up you hypocrite racist.

Australia had their own problems with native people

Which people in history DIDNT have a problem with some other group?

 

[Godboy]

Sure i have. I literally just quoted it.

But that was not racism.

Sure it was. You claimed that white people tried to wipe out the indians.

They did. Have you not looked at any american history at all?

Giving Indians their own land after they were utterly defeated, doesnt sound like genocide to me. Furthermore, "white people" werent responsible for it; it was some people who happened to be white, but certainly white people living in Australia cant be blamed for the plight of Indians in the US, so i reject your silly notion that the white race is to blame.

Unless you are willing to blame the entirety of the black race for gang violence in Chicago, shut the fuck up you hypocrite racist.

You guys whine about "white guilt" and then talk about "giving" American Indians reservations.

Could you be any more clueless?

If we didnt give them the land, how on earth do you suppose they got it? It sure as hell wasnt won through might, thats for fucking sure.

The indians were culturally inferior, and like all inferior cultures in history, they got their asses handed to them by a superior culture. Thousands of cultures were completely wiped out throughout history because, unlike Americans, other cultures didnt end up giving their defeated enemies land and rights; they were merely eradicated and forgotten. The indians were lucky that it wasnt a different group that came to their shores.

 

[IM2]

It may be what you were taught but that doesn't make it true...

It's true. Just accept the facts. The Indian Removal policy was real.

Thomas Jefferson: Architect of Indian Removal Policy

Near the end of his presidency—and as the War of 1812 approached—Jefferson offered only two options to Indian people, Clifford Trafzer wrote in his 2009 book American Indians/American Presidents. Indians could “be absorbed” into the United States or face military obliteration.

Thomas Jefferson: Architect of Indian Removal Policy - IndianCountryToday.com

what was the indian removal policy - Yahoo Search Results

It's the founder's fault the Indians practiced slavery??? What's the point of diverting the topic question here?

Why don't we all take a break from snipping at each other and go STOP the slavery that STILL among us in the world? Don't understand why that was not done a CENTURY ago. Do you? Are you signed on to killing modern slavery to it's roots in your lifetime? I'd do it If there was a movement behind it.

Do you think you'll ever have the balls to tell the whites here about how they create race baiting threads?

You think THIS is a race baiting thread? It's just historical fact. Whites owned slaves in America, Blacks owned slaves in America, and Indians owned slaves in America. Slavery was a relic that infected the entire world prior to the Enlightenment. Including Africa. Still EXISTS in parts of Africa. The magnitude and "commerce" of INTERNATIONAL slave trade was definitely 100 times worse. But only because the white man ABUSED that global reach that he had to do it before the practice was virtually ended.

And yes -- we commonly close or move any type of baiting thread. If it becomes a habit -- we act on that.

Plus slavery is alive and well in the world today with an estimated 24 Million slaves.

No white owners involved.

You're wrong. Slavery thrives in Europe today.

 

[IM2]

But that was not racism.

Sure it was. You claimed that white people tried to wipe out the indians.

They did. Have you not looked at any american history at all?

Giving Indians their own land after they were utterly defeated, doesnt sound like genocide to me. Furthermore, "white people" werent responsible for it; it was some people who happened to be white, but certainly white people living in Australia cant be blamed for the plight of Indians in the US, so i reject your silly notion that the white race is to blame.

Unless you are willing to blame the entirety of the black race for gang violence in Chicago, shut the fuck up you hypocrite racist.

Australia had their own problems with native people

Which people in history DIDNT have a problem with some other group?

Excuses.

 

[Rambunctious]

You're wrong. Slavery thrives in Europe today

 

[IM2]

But that was not racism.

Sure it was. You claimed that white people tried to wipe out the indians.

They did. Have you not looked at any american history at all?

Giving Indians their own land after they were utterly defeated, doesnt sound like genocide to me. Furthermore, "white people" werent responsible for it; it was some people who happened to be white, but certainly white people living in Australia cant be blamed for the plight of Indians in the US, so i reject your silly notion that the white race is to blame.

Unless you are willing to blame the entirety of the black race for gang violence in Chicago, shut the fuck up you hypocrite racist.

You guys whine about "white guilt" and then talk about "giving" American Indians reservations.

Could you be any more clueless?

If we didnt give them the land, how on earth do you suppose they got it? It sure as hell wasnt won through might, thats for fucking sure.
The indians were culturally inferior, and like all inferior cultures in history, they got their asses handed to them by a superior culture. Thousands of cultures were completely wiped out throughout history because, unlike Americans, other cultures didnt end up giving their defeated enemies land and rights; they were merely eradicated and forgotten. The indians were lucky that it wasnt a different group that came to their shores.

Things didn't exactly happen that way. You made treaties with the Native Americans, allowed them to be their own nations, and that was because the Native Americans did not stop killing whites trying to go west.

 

[IM2]

You're wrong. Slavery thrives in Europe today

 

[Rambunctious]

You're wrong. Slavery thrives in Europe today

My church is sponsoring a presentation dealing with sex slave trafficking after it was discovered to be taking place in our county... so I guess I can see that...

 

[BlueGin]

I will NEVER forget the thread about Confederates, slavery and the Confederate flag, that loon Lakota was squealing like a stuck pig until I pointed out to him Native Americans owned slaves, fought along side the Confederates and had battle flags with the Stars and Bars on them

Freaking priceless, he left that thread so fast my head spun

Native Americans and Hispanics in New Mexico duke it out all of the time over who is a bigger victim.

Both have a nasty history. But they love the blame game.

 

[IM2]

I will NEVER forget the thread about Confederates, slavery and the Confederate flag, that loon Lakota was squealing like a stuck pig until I pointed out to him Native Americans owned slaves, fought along side the Confederates and had battle flags with the Stars and Bars on them

Freaking priceless, he left that thread so fast my head spun

Native Americans and Hispanics in New Mexico duke it out all of the time over who is a bigger victim.

Both have a nasty history. But they love the blame game.

Racist whites and their false equivalences.

 

[BlueGin]

White people are funny. Whites tried to wipe out the Native Americans and you say this.

Hispanics had a history of wiping out Native Americans on occasion. Or are the brown people white too when it's convenient?

 

[BlueGin]

I will NEVER forget the thread about Confederates, slavery and the Confederate flag, that loon Lakota was squealing like a stuck pig until I pointed out to him Native Americans owned slaves, fought along side the Confederates and had battle flags with the Stars and Bars on them

Freaking priceless, he left that thread so fast my head spun

That is because liberals don't know history. They make it up as they go.

 

[Harry Dresden]

White people are funny. Whites tried to wipe out the Native Americans and you say this.

Don’t blame all whites for the imbecile white supremacist trash.

I'm not. Please stop assuming criticism of one white persons post represents criticism of all white people.

why dont you stop assuming someone is a racist just because they had the gall and audacity to disagree with you.....

 

[BlueGin]

We have got nothing right. Native Americans still live on reservations, racism runs rampant and people of color are still being cheated. And it is done by whites. So do not tell me what whites aren't and do not assume to think you can tell me what I think. All whites are not the enemy, but whites like you are. We did not get along better before Obama. Stop lying to yourself. You white racists and your gaslighting does not work here

Native Americans have it made...they can own and operate casinos even in non gambling states...their youth in many tribes will never have to work a single day in their life with the proceeds dealt out from their legal gambling ventures...no pun intended...like I said you are a throwback operating on old info...that's dangerous...

And they have gotten Government funded healthcare for years through IHS.

 

[BlueGin]

Yeah. Rough reservation.
Souix tribe out of Twin Cities.
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Average house of Tribal member on this reservation.
This tribe found a way to get theirs back from the white man.
One armed bandits.

The lengths some whites will go to in order to deny the truth of their wrongdoing. These reservations don't look like that.

One example of a successful non white represents all of them, making any claim of white racism false, but we must always make sure that we point out that not all whites are racists or have participated in wrongs against people of color.

So do you think that black communities which are not considered their own nations while getting aid from the US government annually, are going to be allowed to get cities and states to change zoning ordinances to enable all black neighborhoods to build and run casinos?

This is why I hate debating dumb whites.

The majority of Native Americans live off reservations.

 

[BlueGin]

I will NEVER forget the thread about Confederates, slavery and the Confederate flag, that loon Lakota was squealing like a stuck pig until I pointed out to him Native Americans owned slaves, fought along side the Confederates and had battle flags with the Stars and Bars on them

Freaking priceless, he left that thread so fast my head spun

Native Americans and Hispanics in New Mexico duke it out all of the time over who is a bigger victim.

Both have a nasty history. But they love the blame game.

Racist whites and their false equivalences.

No false equivalency. They have a history of killing each other.

 

[Crepitus]

But that was not racism.

Sure it was. You claimed that white people tried to wipe out the indians.

They did. Have you not looked at any american history at all?

Giving Indians their own land after they were utterly defeated, doesnt sound like genocide to me. Furthermore, "white people" werent responsible for it; it was some people who happened to be white, but certainly white people living in Australia cant be blamed for the plight of Indians in the US, so i reject your silly notion that the white race is to blame.

Unless you are willing to blame the entirety of the black race for gang violence in Chicago, shut the fuck up you hypocrite racist.

You guys whine about "white guilt" and then talk about "giving" American Indians reservations.

Could you be any more clueless?

If we didnt give them the land, how on earth do you suppose they got it? It sure as hell wasnt won through might, thats for fucking sure.

The indians were culturally inferior, and like all inferior cultures in history, they got their asses handed to them by a superior culture. Thousands of cultures were completely wiped out throughout history because, unlike Americans, other cultures didnt end up giving their defeated enemies land and rights; they were merely eradicated and forgotten. The indians were lucky that it wasnt a different group that came to their shores.

It's was all theirs to start with.

Jesus you people.....

 

[harmonica]

...the NAs TORTURED per culture [ not policy ]/displaced/decimated/warred on/stole land/etc of other tribes long before the evil whitey came along

 

[harmonica]

Sure it was. You claimed that white people tried to wipe out the indians.

They did. Have you not looked at any american history at all?

Giving Indians their own land after they were utterly defeated, doesnt sound like genocide to me. Furthermore, "white people" werent responsible for it; it was some people who happened to be white, but certainly white people living in Australia cant be blamed for the plight of Indians in the US, so i reject your silly notion that the white race is to blame.

Unless you are willing to blame the entirety of the black race for gang violence in Chicago, shut the fuck up you hypocrite racist.

You guys whine about "white guilt" and then talk about "giving" American Indians reservations.

Could you be any more clueless?

If we didnt give them the land, how on earth do you suppose they got it? It sure as hell wasnt won through might, thats for fucking sure.

The indians were culturally inferior, and like all inferior cultures in history, they got their asses handed to them by a superior culture. Thousands of cultures were completely wiped out throughout history because, unlike Americans, other cultures didnt end up giving their defeated enemies land and rights; they were merely eradicated and forgotten. The indians were lucky that it wasnt a different group that came to their shores.

It's was all theirs to start with.

Jesus you people.....

no it wasn't
....they stole land from other tribes/decimated/displaced/TORTURED/warred on/murdered/etc other tribes
...it was the Age of Exploration/etc
don't try to make it like it was 1973 with lawyers/real estate companies/etc