America was not founded on....

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    So many myths dominate American discourse today and religion is one of the big sticks.

    “the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

    "Speaking at a rally on the steps of the U.S. Capitol on May 16, 1920, Baptist theologian George Washington Truett proudly declared that the separation of church and state was “preeminently a Baptist achievement.”

    Perspective | I know Roy Moore. He’s always been a con artist.


    "The Real Origins of the Religious Right - They’ll tell you it was abortion. Sorry, the historical record’s clear: It was segregation.""

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    "But the abortion myth quickly collapses under historical scrutiny. In fact, it wasn’t until 1979—a full six years after Roe—that evangelical leaders, at the behest of conservative activist Paul Weyrich, seized on abortion not for moral reasons, but as a rallying-cry to deny President Jimmy Carter a second term. Why? Because the anti-abortion crusade was more palatable than the religious right’s real motive: protecting segregated schools."

    "The abuse of women and girls is the most pervasive and unaddressed human rights violation on earth." Jimmy Carter

    "Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey
     
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    More insane hatred from the left.
     
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    /----/ "“the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”" Sure Sparky: “their Creator,” in “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights” and “Laws of Nature and of Nature's God” near the beginning of the Declaration refer to God;

    And in the Federalist papers: Federal Theology: God & Federalist Papers
    On one hand the authors expressed their faith-based beliefs but on the other hand they forged ahead in making certain that religion would not be permitted to divide the people or to otherwise tyrannize any individual or group.

    However, by their very example in writing the Federalist Papers, its authors showed that while government may not make any law respecting an establishment of religion, expressions of faith-based beliefs are natural and wholesome whether in government or among the populace, the only criteria in government being to steadfastly remain within the expressed bounds of both the letter and spirit of the second amendment law.
     
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    America was indeed founded on Christian principles. After the very first president was elected, he and all of Congress spent the rest of the day, on their knees, in a Christian church, asking God to bless this Nation, and guide them to do His will. And God did. In abundance.
    Praying to Him was never in doubt or questioned when Congress convened. And it wasn't for show, or a lack of political correctness, or to push an agenda. It was Christian men wanting God's help in creating a nation. Not only was it NOT separated from their governance, it was an integral part of it.

    Separation of church and state was to protect the church from government interference, as was the case in England. It in no way was meant to keep God out of our government. Here is the proof of that:
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    To the above I would add, Now that we have kicked God out, how are things?
     
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    Separation of Church and State was to ensure freedom of religion, not just Christianity. It was not to protect the church from the government, but to protect the gov from the church.
     
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    Look at human history, might be better without God, worship silently. Quit pushing your beliefs on others.
     
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    Do you see everyone in your two above pictures are white.
     
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    If you are right then they would have all been guilty of breaking their own law.
    Do you disbelieve that there was a first prayer in Congress? Did you miss who it was addressed to? They reiterate at the end, and took possession of God's Son as their Savior.
    While, with respect to religion, covers all churches and members of a said group,
    They made it very apparent which God they were praying to and asking for guidance from.
    Color has nothing to do with the OP. Which has been proven to be incorrect.
     
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    The myth of America being “founded on the Christian religion” is one of the more pernicious lies propagated by the right.

    Conservatives use this lie to justify their opposition to the Framers’ mandate that church and state remain separate, and to justify their hostility toward the privacy rights of women.
     
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