America: No Longer #1

Discussion in 'Economy' started by Dante, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. Dante
    Offline

    Dante On leave Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    52,463
    Thanks Received:
    3,324
    Trophy Points:
    1,825
    Location:
    On leave
    Ratings:
    +6,054
    The day is comig. NYT Editorial on the conference Ed Rendell and others held on the future of American economic power.
    what's up with that, blaming the hyper partisanship?
     
  2. Dante
    Offline

    Dante On leave Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    52,463
    Thanks Received:
    3,324
    Trophy Points:
    1,825
    Location:
    On leave
    Ratings:
    +6,054
    What?
     
  3. Neubarth
    Offline

    Neubarth At the Ballpark July 30th

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2008
    Messages:
    3,751
    Thanks Received:
    199
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    South Pacific
    Ratings:
    +199
    I estimate it is even more than that. The ugly reality is that the United States needs to become protectionist about our jobs. If we have to become isolationist, so be it. I do not favor putting Chinese to work while Americans who are more productive workers have to stay home and live off of welfare and food stamps.

    Join with Canada and Mexico and the little countries of Central America to form the United States of North America and restrict trade to just our member states.
     
  4. Truthmatters
    Offline

    Truthmatters BANNED

    Joined:
    May 10, 2007
    Messages:
    80,182
    Thanks Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +2,233
    We have to think long term and quit allowing the corps to dictate to the idiotry of this country how to distroy us from within.

    The international corporations dont care about the US. They benifit from all workers of the world being at their mercy. They are working to level the field world wide for workers.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  5. RetiredGySgt
    Online

    RetiredGySgt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    39,556
    Thanks Received:
    5,900
    Trophy Points:
    1,140
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Ratings:
    +8,972
    Car Industry exploded because Unions forced them from being competitive with ignorant amounts paid to people for hardly any work. Housing market collapsed because the Liberals forced banks to make bad loans to people that could not afford to pay for their houses. And then for 8 years blocked any attempt to regulate the process.

    Barney Frank was INSISTING just a month or so before the crash that not only would more regulation HURT the Housing Industry, just talking about it was bad. He INSISTED the market was in fine shape.

    Liberals and Big Unions are the reason this Country has little left in manufacturing jobs and is losing more. If Obama wants to WASTE our money then rebuild the Ship Building Industry and rebuild the steel Industry. AT least that money would go to create jobs, what he is doing is Unconstitutional at least that would see some sort of return on the money. Rebuild the textile Manufacturing Industry.
     
  6. william the wie
    Offline

    william the wie Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Messages:
    7,286
    Thanks Received:
    674
    Trophy Points:
    175
    Ratings:
    +1,605
    While I agree with your points I think Neubarth came closer to right.

    A larger NAFTA with a government responsible to the voters is needed.

    Care should be taken to avoid anything that fits the WTO definition of protectionism. A VAT that rebates NAFTA produced groceries and restricts the use of food stamps to such might pass muster without setting off a trade war.

    A uniform corporate code for NAFTA that leaves open the possibility of San Jose, Costa Rica becoming the next motor city is a better fix than tinkering with union law.

    But that is just the tip of the iceberg, if that much, economic policy does not address:

    The connection between the money economy and real economy is not understood.

    The connection between wealth and income both monetary and real is not understood.

    Demographics the connection between human biology and the economy has no place in economic policy.

    Not knowing that much that we don't know makes any economic policy kind of questionable much less the provably and proven wrong Fisher/Keynes/monetarist mix and match idiocy coming out of DC. I think not doing harm is the first priority.
     

Share This Page