America & Nazi Germany

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    FDR was of course the FIRST world leader to condemn Hitler, way back in 1933; FDR had to fight not only the far right on the economy, but also the same cruds on the war against fascism. Thank God we had an American like him at the helm.
     
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    We did not, is your real name PETAIN by any chance? You do not seem to have learned about the millions killed by REAL Fascists, read up on it.
     
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    As the FAR right decided to ignore Hitler, FDR was initiating Lend Lease, or perhaps you missed that in your "studies".
     
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    As someone with plenty of Alsatian blood coursing through his veins, I impolitely invite you to ram it up your liberoidal ass.

    FDR provoked war with Japan, via economic embargo and directly with the AVG (Flying Tigers), who were flying combat missions well before 7 December'41.

    France, England and the good ole USA sold Poland down the river to the reds...."Fuck the Poles", said the craven traitors who declared war on Germany over the 1 September '39 Nazi invasion.

    America ended up enabling and empowering both Stalin and Mao, who out-slaughtered Hitler by a factor of no less than ten.

    You are one seriously sad excuse of an historian.
     
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    That is not exactly how it was.

    FDR was pretty much the only who stood up to Congress and the prevailing political view among elected politicians in both parties, but especially in the pro-business pro-eugenics types... that Hitler was the man to back in Europe over the British Empire, which at the time was seen as a threat to the US. At the time, Hitler's policies were closer to the US's own views than that of their "enemy" the British Empire... both economically and socially.

    Even among FDRs cabinet there was Hitler supporters who were lobbying FDR not to back the UK up.

    Now when I say Hitler supporters.. I dont mean raving NAZI's. The motivation to support Hitler over the UK varied from business (Bush's grandfather for example) to the threat of the British Empire on US aspirations world wide. They simply saw Nazi Germany as the best bet in a war in Europe and the enemy of my enemy... the British Empire.
     
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    It was __________ fault !
     
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    FDR was nothing more than a petty tyrant.

    krist, that prick confiscated everyone's gold to pay for the wars he wanted.

    hundreds of thousands dead and all we got was the Cold War.
     
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    I don't think this reading of history stands up.

    With Stalin and Hitler having carved up Europe with Molotov-Ribentrop, the Allies were left in the unappealing situation of having to decide when and where to ignite a world war which would potentially cost both tens of thousands of lives.

    Both the US and UK acted primarily out of self interest, which is exactly what they should have done. Nothing could have saved Poland in 1939, and the best the Allies could hope for was for he Soviets to block the Western Front, while they attempted to secure their own borders in the west.

    Why an English general placing English military needs ahead of Polish ones would be a 'traitor' is beyond me.
     
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