America is already a "Sharia Compliant State"

[Sunni Man]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmZ0Qmqn3Wo]YouTube - ‪Feisal Abdul Rauf says America is "a Sharia Compliant State"‬‏[/ame]

 

[Truthseeker420]

YouTube - ‪Feisal Abdul Rauf says America is "a Sharia Compliant State"‬‏

you mean sharia law doesn't demand cuting off babies heads and eating their brains?

 

[Sunni Man]

Sharia Law and the Constitution are very similar in context and ideals for people's happiness and welfare.

 

[TheBrain]

If we're already SHaria Compliant then you have no need to have more.

Good day sir.

 

[Sunni Man]

America is basically compliant with the ideals of sharia law.

The next step is to codify those laws into our judicial system.

 

[TheBrain]

America is basically compliant with the ideals of sharia law.

The next step is to codify those laws into our judicial system.

I would wish you luck, but I don't really wish to see laws codified in this country which allow women to be treated as second class citizens.

 

[Sunni Man]

Muslim women are far from being treated as second-class citizens.

Unlike women in the western nations Muslim women are treated with dignity and respect .

 

[TheBrain]

Muslim women are far from being treated as second-class citizens.

Unlike women in the western nations Muslim women are treated with dignity and respect .

Really?

Having to cover from head to toe is being treated with dignity and respect?

Being beaten in public for minor transgressions is ?

Not being allowed in public alone without permission from your "owner" is?

Having to have 4 male witnesses to rape is?

Let's start with those four things, see if you're brave enough to address them this time.

 

[Sunni Man]

Muslim women dressed that way because of their religious beliefs. I have never once told my wife she had tp dress a certain way.

Yet Western women dress like sluts and whores and think that is freedom.

And no I do not own my wife. She is free to leave or divorce me anytime at her pleasure.

I think the four witnesses to a rape rule is a good thing.

I am sure that the innocent Duke Lacrosse players would agree.

 

[TheBrain]

Muslim women dressed that way because of their religious beliefs. I have never once told my wife had address R Forster to wear anything.

Yet Western women dress like sluts and whores and think that is freedom.

And no I do not own my wife. She is free to leave our divorce me anytime at her pleasure.

I think the four witnesses to a rape rule is a good thing.

I am sure that the innocent Duke Lacrosse players would agree.

You wish us to believe that any woman would CHOOSE to wear those hideous outfits? LOL I suppose if they are brainwashed their entire lives that is possible.

Sorry you don't agree that being able to dress as a slut is in fact freedom, but it is.

Yeah I'm sure you do think four witnesses or the woman is stoned as an adulterer is reasonable.

 

[Sunni Man]

The mosque that I attend has several thousand members. Many of the women are second and third-generation Muslim Americans. Many with advanced university degrees.

There are also a lot of American women converts.

All of them CHOOSE to wear the Islamic attire.

No one is forcing them to do anything..

 

[TheBrain]

The mosque that I attend has several thousand members. Many of the women are second and third-generation Muslim Americans. Many with advanced university degrees.

There are also a lot of American women converts.

All of them CHOOSE to wear the Islamic attire.

No one is forcing them to do anything..

Uh huh.

Tell me how you think western women aren't treated with dignity and respect. this should be good.

 

[Warrior102]

America is basically compliant with the ideals of sharia law.

The next step is to codify those laws into our judicial system.

Lemme get a few bong hits under my belt before I begin to understand this.

 

[Sunni Man]

Strip clubs, Prostitution, Pornography

One in four women has an STD

50% of all children are now born to single mothers

Men who have children with multiple women and refuse to marry them.

Women forced to have abortions as a form of birth control .

Need I go on??

 

[Iridescence]

Muslim women are far from being treated as second-class citizens.

Unlike women in the western nations Muslim women are treated with dignity and respect .

Really?

Having to cover from head to toe is being treated with dignity and respect?

Being beaten in public for minor transgressions is ?

Not being allowed in public alone without permission from your "owner" is?

Having to have 4 male witnesses to rape is?

Let's start with those four things, see if you're brave enough to address them this time.

If it were to be acceptable here many of 'us' American women would NOT be so fashionable in appearance and are only so to please and placid the social issues our preferred dress tends to be... however paleo-conservative in appearance it may be in another, possibly more modern woman's mind.

As for being beaten in public... what? Do you prefer being beaten in private with no one to witness the punishment? Or worse yet that things go completely unpunished? Men are also punished....

Witnesses to a rape... necessarily a good thing, or rather, a better thing than no witnesses.

As for not being out in public without permission from one's owner... hahaha how has that come to be so acceptable here? Ohhh, through the expense of our women's reputation... we've either had to become a bit 'butch' or 'sluts' bucking authority... I'd wager not being in public without a companion/chaperon, but not because I'm incapable of being alone for the most part, rather because I find it a far more wise choice to not be too alone. Yes, even in my own home town.

Got any more issues/questions?

 

[Sunni Man]

I remember back when women's liberation and feminism was the rage.

Women demanded that men recognized that they had brains and could contribute to all fields in the workforce of society.

But oh how the times have changed.

Now women dress like hookers and could care less what men think of their brains.

Young women nowadays have no knowledge of Madam Curie or other famous women.

Their idols are sluts like Britney, Lindsey, and Gaga.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

America is basically compliant with the ideals of sharia law.

The next step is to codify those laws into our judicial system.

Which will never happen.

As I’ve noted in other threads (apparently with no success with regard to the thread author), Sharia is anathema to American law and will never comport to Constitutional jurisprudence:

Judge, Jury and Executioner

In Islamic Shariah, there is no jury, no defense lawyers, no prosecutors, no pre-trial discovery process, no courts of appeal, no cross-examination of witnesses, no legal precedents, and perhaps most damaging of all, little room for modern evidence.

Former State Minister of Islamic Affairs, Mohamed Shaheem Ali Saeed, while graciously acknowledging the validity of long established forensic methods of DNA profiling, stated that such evidence could only be used as ‘supplementary’ evidence, presumably while relying primarily on eye-witness testimonies, as practised in Arabia 1400 years ago.

Furthermore, due to the lack of separation of powers in Islamic Shariah, the Mullah is literally the judge, jury and executioner on whose shaky whims the mortal life of the accused rests.

Coupled with the severe lack of capable judges, this is often a recipe for disaster.

Comment: Shariah not a solution | Minivan News

I support Muslims’ right to practice their faith and observe Sharia in a religious context. But it will never be incorporated into our current judicial system.

And the thread author should know that, if indeed he were a Muslim.

 

[Iridescence]

Perhaps the whole issue 'way back when' is that some of us were taught as young girls that we had to learn the trades that would have been best beneficial to our living conditions. Alot of men in the past have not always been able or interested in meeting the needs of his family... Sharia Law ensures chastisement of such men (infidel) just as it has expectations of women...

 

[TheBrain]

I remember back when women's liberation and feminism was the rage.

Women demanded that men recognized that they had brains and could contribute to all fields in the workforce of society.

But oh how the times have changed.

Now women dress like hookers and could care less what men think of their brains.

Young women nowadays have no knowledge of Madam Curie or other famous women.

Their idols are sluts like Britney, Lindsey, and Gaga.

True enough, but they have CHOSEN to behave in that manner. Which is what this country stands for. Who gives a shit if you agree with them or not.

 

[Sunni Man]

America is basically compliant with the ideals of sharia law.

The next step is to codify those laws into our judicial system.

Which will never happen.

As I’ve noted in other threads (apparently with no success with regard to the thread author), Sharia is anathema to American law and will never comport to Constitutional jurisprudence:

Judge, Jury and Executioner

In Islamic Shariah, there is no jury, no defense lawyers, no prosecutors, no pre-trial discovery process, no courts of appeal, no cross-examination of witnesses, no legal precedents, and perhaps most damaging of all, little room for modern evidence.

Former State Minister of Islamic Affairs, Mohamed Shaheem Ali Saeed, while graciously acknowledging the validity of long established forensic methods of DNA profiling, stated that such evidence could only be used as ‘supplementary’ evidence, presumably while relying primarily on eye-witness testimonies, as practised in Arabia 1400 years ago.

Furthermore, due to the lack of separation of powers in Islamic Shariah, the Mullah is literally the judge, jury and executioner on whose shaky whims the mortal life of the accused rests.

Coupled with the severe lack of capable judges, this is often a recipe for disaster.

Comment: Shariah not a solution*|*Minivan News

I support Muslims’ right to practice their faith and observe Sharia in a religious context. But it will never be incorporated into our current judicial system.

And the thread author should know that, if indeed he were a Muslim.

Incorrect

Who would have dreamed 50 years ago that we would now have homosexual marriage.

Or 100 years ago that blacks could vote and that we would even have a black president.

America's legal system is fluid and not static.

As time and our demographic change so does our political process and laws.

America will adopt some if not all aspects of sharia law in the future.

That is a given.