America Divided

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    You know i'm pissed today, but its suddenly starting to transition over to sadness. I, in my lifetime anyway, have never seen America so divided, its sickening. I just don't understand, 9/11 was close to uniting us but there were still some detractors and now we've got this guy who it appears was taking a chance on making a buck for his family(albeit in a dangerous place) and he gets whacked for it. STILL Americans are divided and playing the blame game. I don't know, I don't think this country will ever be united on anything and i'm beginning to think it might've seen its better days. :(
     
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    OCA, have you ever read Sean Hannity's "An End To Evil?"
     
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    No and yes i've seen the tv show hundreds of times but the last political book I tried to read was one of Ann Coulter's and it was like reading the right wing version of "It Takes A Village". So I've shied away from political literature lately.

    After my diatribe no, I haven't read the book;)
     
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    You are starting to sound like a Constitutionalist. I agree with you, and I see the whole thing as a natural progression of socialism in America.

    It started long ago, and now we are beginning to see what happens when you slowly chip away at the American system over decades.

    It cannot be fixed with band-aids and bondo.

    This bus requires a whole new drive train. -Being based on the same model as the old is fine. We just need to start with a no wear-and-tear situation.
     
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    I think I first realized how divided our country was after the last Presidential election. I didn't realize that half of the country saw things so differently from me.

    It's a shame we don't have more options in terms of leadership.
    I'm real sick of the two-party system.
     
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    Well OCA...

    In this book, Sean Hannity outlines a memo from Democartic leaders he obtained. It is the most cynical memo I've ever read. It was for the SSCI, which is supposed to be a non-political, bipartisan thing...

    Dems are playing politics with our national security. They hate Bush more than they hate Hussein.
     
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    And Hannity also reveals how it was never like this. Dems and Republicans always worked together on national security. They had a saying, "Politics stops at the water's edge."

    To Dems, that doesn't mean anything anymore.
     
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    Wait, Greece has a 50 party system and that totally fucks shit up. Often times the leading party will get only 20% of the vote so they have to cut some deals with everybody else and basically you have fucking anarchy in the government. Nothing ever gets done. For example, the power company over there was protesting something or other the last time I was there by the government and for nearly half the day they'd shut off the friggin power to the whole country. Lol what a mess, i'll take ours anyday.
     
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    Oh I agree with you there, but if it is revealed that we haven't squashed these bugs because Bush is playing election year politics, not only am I going to be pissed you will see his approval ratings fall into the single digits because Americans are going to be pissed, then guess what? We get president flip flop. You see my point i'm making? Nobody can say that they don't see any telltale signs of that happening either. I'm beginning to agree with the sentiment that ALL politicians are cockroaches regardless of party.
     
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    Sadly I agree in a way. 9/11 changed the world. I remember standing on Broadway watching the fires and then the collapse. I remember walking all the way uptown and the absolute surrealness of the whole day. But you know what I remember most? The absolute anger and rage at what happened. Sadness for the loss of life? Yes. But anger was my first reaction.

    This country came together that day, and the moment was there to be seized. But alas, it is gone. The onward march of time makes you foget how you felt in a certain point of your life. It dulls the emotion. So now it is all just a distant memory for some, I guess that's human nature.

    We sit here two years later and we fight about all of the little details.

    Some advocate compassion and finding a higher ground. They ask: "What can we do to change the big picture? Why do they hate us? What does the rest of the world think?"

    Some are stuck on the who's to blame? "It was Bush! It was Clinton! "

    We go to war. Rightly or Wrongly we are there.

    Some people fail to realize this and in their zeal to bring a swift end to warfare actually prolong it. We spend hours debating why we went. We politicize it. We turn our rage inward. "You're a liberal traitor!" "You're a neocon war monger!" We blame ourselves for every thing that goes wrong.

    All the while, the Osamas of the world laugh at us and continue to strengthen. They can see what is going on in the US. They watch CNN, Foxnews, etc.

    We are in the middle of an election year. Unfortunatley people are more concerned about Survior and American Idol. We'll be lucky to get a 35% turnout in the general election. You have those that think that Bush walks on water. You have those that think Kerry will save the day. Neither one of them is perfect.
    But they are both politicians, remember that. There are those that just don't care.

    We as a nation are too self absorbed, while at the same time many of us would give the shirt off of our backs to someone in need.

    Sadly, it won't be until we are attacked again that people will re-open their eyes. My only hope is that more people will feel rage then sadness, and turn this rage against those that mean to kill us. Maybe then they will look past the bullshit and finish this war against the jihadists once and for all. Until then, count on more bodybags and flag draped coffins.
     

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