America and the Debt Ceiling

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  1. Modbert
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    I've been seeing the Gallup poll where the majority of Americans don't want to raise the debt ceiling by many of those in the "don't raise the ceiling" crowd. However, there are two other polls that I feel that should also be seen.

    Gallup: Majority Of Americans Still Oppose Raising Debt Ceiling : It's All Politics : NPR

    On Deficit, Americans Prefer Spending Cuts; Open to Tax Hikes

    And from the most interesting poll of all from March:

    WSJ/NBC News Poll Finds Support Lacking for Entitlement Reductions - WSJ.com

    Conclusions:

    1.) The majority of Americans currently do not want to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.) The majority of Americans are open to tax hikes.

    3.) The majority of Americans want large spending cuts.

    4.) The majority of Americans, including across all age groups and ideologies by large margins do not want significant cuts to entitlement programs.

    So tell me USMB, if we listen to America, how are we going to dig ourselves out of this hole?
     
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    Wow...People want free lunch at everyone else's expense...Who knew?

    Oh, that's right...Frédéric Bastiat knew, over 200 friggin' years ago!

    The Law, by Frederic Bastiat
     
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    Americans simply can't have everything Americans want. That's why we need real leaders in D.C. to do what is necessary rather than a bunch of cowards trying to cover their political asses.
     
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    But not too much lunch. After all, if your kids are too fat ( define that ) they could be taken away from you and put into foster homes. I know that the 50% of people who pay federal taxes here, would love to help support your kids ????:cuckoo:
     
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    Like McConnell.

    I just thought it was silly to be posting a poll that shows Americans are in favor of not raising the debt ceiling because Americans also wanted the other things I mentioned.
     
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    1. not wanting to and having to are two different things. We all want the DC whores to stop wasting money.
    2. We are all in favor of letting the Bush Tax cuts expire. that will nearly balance the budget. The tax rates during the Clinton era were not that bad, and brought prosperity.
    3. We want the Budget to go from $4-trillion back to around $2-trillion like it should be.
    4. The key word there is "significant" entitlement cuts. Raise the age a year or two and lift the cap and SS is saved.

    To get out of the hole do these:
    1. Eliminate all foreign aid
    2. Eliminate all subsidies
    3. Eliminate all tax loop-holes
    4. Put a transaction tax on all Wall Street trades
    5. Tax short-sales of stock & derivatives heavily
    6. Put limits on Medicare & Medicaid like regular insurance's "Maximum Lifetime Benefit" based on your contributions. No freeloaders.
    7. Cut defense spending and end the wars
     
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    Totals: Only/mostly cuts - 50%
    Totals: Only/mostly tax hikes - 11%

    No surprise, but that discredits your conclusion #2...


    BTW, March was over 3 months ago... Something more current is a better pulse...
     
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    If you have the poll, feel free to cite it. I couldn't find anything more recent.
     
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    Right. Except when the spending cuts affect them. Then people are against it. Rick Scott is polling at 29% down here in Florida - an all-time low - because he is doing exactly what he said he'd do. Can't blame Scott. He's doing what he promised. The public thought slashing spending meant cutting other people's spending, not firing the teacher at their kids' schools. Same as NY-26. That was all about the Ryan budget. Cut spending? We're for it! Cut Medicare? That affects me, so no!
     
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