America: A House Divided

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    And THIS is why we're divided as a nation. This is an example of the kind of intellectual dishonesty we have to put up with from the mental midgets in society. These are the people who want to run things and control our lives. Take a good long look and tell me this is something you can reason with and find common ground with.

    No. People such as this have to be humiliated in defeat so badly they become ostracized and made the subject of ridicule. They can't be given a platform and allowed to grow and thrive.
     
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    Yes, it's funny... MANY of the New Deal policies prolonged the depression and turned it into a GREAT depression instead of a "normal" one like the many we had before and since. It's also funny that, after 80 years of FDR's policies, our poverty level remains much the same. It's funny how Democrats today use the same tired old lines they used 82 years ago regarding a "living wage."

    And it's hilarious you never could name any Republicans who were former Dixiecrats other than good ol' Strom who was never actually a Dixiecrat.
     
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    "except at Kent State"? Where students, not commies were murdered! I don't know how old you are, but I was on the CAL Campus when this horror unfolded. It was like a cold shower and a great concern for those of us who had girl friends on Campus, knowing Reagan was Governor. Right then, I knew it could happen here and I found L. and we went to her parents home in Moraga to watch the news. He parents, both Republicans, were very thankfully I brought her home that day.

    BTW, I had separated from active duty in December 1969, and was not an activist. I was also not a fan of Nixon or (what we later learned) were neo cons, both in the D and the R party. I was not a peace nick, then. And today we are faced with a neo con on steroids who has never seen the elephant, and is willing to send other peoples kids into harms way.
     
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    I still say when you're RIGHT about something....

    Let's just say RAPE.

    You and I both believe RAPE is WRONG.

    PERIOD.

    Now suppose we're in a group of 5, and the other 3 believe RAPE is GOOD for you, and that being RAPED builds "character" because you're taking one for the "greater good".

    Where do you "compromise" with that?

    Is that "too extreme"?

    Will it be "too extreme" when the government healthcare system I didn't want forces me to get a soviet doctor's hand shoved up my ass? Just wondering.... It's not out of the question a government could force you to get a prostate exam is it? Try getting into the military without having to let a doc gaze at your asshole. I understand why that is of course, but if the citizen becomes a subject to the state, and it's determined that the cost of prevention of prostate cancer means every dude in the US get's a finger in his ass every year after 40 guess what?

    I call it RAPE.

    Fine too extreme?

    OK,

    So what about THEFT?

    Same circumstance. We believe it's wrong to take other people's shit. 3 Other clowns out vote us, and STEAL our shit.

    Still up for "compromise"?

    I'm not.

    That's also why I WILL NOT "compromise" my 2nd Amendment rights.

    You don't "compromise" on right vs. wrong, because the solution is NEVER better than half right.

     
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    The problem is, the other "side" says precisely the same thing, with just as much passion and conviction.

    Compromise is complicated, and requires effort, honesty and humility. It requires us to consider the possibility that our way of doing things may not be the only way, and that we're simply not always going to get our way, or that the two sides will have to work together to find a third way.
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    • Censorship ^^^; and
    • Revised History; and an
    • Ad hominem; and
    • Accuse others of what they do.
    Nothing new here from boss, who is a classical example of the decades long effort and success of the Conservative wing of the Republican Party to dumb down Americans.
     
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    Compromise and honesty disappeared under the tutelage of Gingrich when he was Speaker of the House. The current Speaker needs to review recent history and modify his conservative agenda and learn the value of compromise.

    The way things are going, the election of 2018 will result in a sea change and put The Current Speaker (Ryan) on a back bench, only if the voters decide he is capable - something the data shows he is not.
     
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    Neither end of the spectrum has a monopoly on either honesty or dishonesty, and the country would be far better off if each would clean its OWN house before pointing the finger at the other.
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    Pointing fingers at incompetence and/or dishonsty is not necessarily a partisan act, and when the facts/data support an elected official - or appointed - of misfeasance (such as McConnell's failure to being an up or down vote for Merrick Garland) one must stand up and speak or write about it.

    There is a difference between misspeaking and misleading, and the difference is distinctive.
     
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    Yes, that's one side's version of the big picture.
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