AMAZING the ignorance of Obama,people on this board and millions of Americans!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by healthmyths, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. healthmyths
    Offline

    healthmyths Gold Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    Messages:
    15,239
    Thanks Received:
    2,045
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,853
    Shocking the ignorance of many people including some on this board as well as how many americans have NO idea that their employer MATCHES what the employee pays in Social Security, Medicare and that the EMPLOYER alone pays Federal Unemployment TAXES!!!

    I've not seen any polls because I don't think people understand the importance that Americans UNDERSTAND that their employer ALSO pays for the employee's Social Security and Medicare!

    I am assuming the AVERAGE American doesn't know that while THEY see 4.2% for SS and 1.45% for Medicare deducted from their check,
    their employer adds 6.2% for SS and 1.45% for Medicare to the payments to the Federal Government!


    AND I firmly believe that Obama shares THAT ignorance!

    I mean for a person who in his OWN words.."Starting in January 2009, Obama and his aides promised repeatedly to "focus like a laser" on creating jobs."
    HE HASnN'T because WHY would he be instead working to KILL JOBS????

    If Obama and millions of Americans UNDERSTOOD their employers pay more for the employees SS and match payments for Medicare maybe they would comprehend the importance of GETTING MORE people employed!

    SO I'm repeating again..
    For every employee earning $40,000 a year in salary:
    The Employer PAYS 7.65% of the $40,000 or $3,060 in payroll taxes ..
    The Employee pays 5.65% or $2,260 in payroll taxes...

    AND GUESS what Obama and millions of IGNORANT americans ALL OF THIS GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND!!!
    40% of Federal Tax Revenue comes from PAYROLL TAXES
    42% individual income taxes
    9% corporate taxes
    6% other
    3% Excise taxes...

    $The-Numbers-Jan-2012-Fig1_1.gif


    What are the federal government's sources of revenue?

    So again... IF Obama KNEW how important Payroll taxes are i.e. 40% coming from EMPLOYERS then Obama wouldn't be so anti-business making businesses the enemy the evil profit takers,... just as so many MILLIONS of totally ignorant AMericans consider "corporations" businesses... etc...
    AND these idiots like Obama OBVIOUSLY don't know the old adage... Don't bite the hand that feeds you!
     
  2. Oddball
    Offline

    Oddball BANNED Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Messages:
    41,428
    Thanks Received:
    8,397
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Drinking wine, eating cheese, catching rays
    Ratings:
    +8,409
    40% is NOT coming from the employers....It's coming from the employee.

    The "employer's contribution" to FICA comes out of the money that any given employer has to pay employees.

    It's a great big shell game that the gullible buy into.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  3. SniperFire
    Offline

    SniperFire Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    13,627
    Thanks Received:
    1,219
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Inside Your Head
    Ratings:
    +1,223
    I made this graphic in '08 to metaphorically present the thought process of the Democrat voter.


    Nothing has changed.


    [​IMG]
     
  4. blastoff
    Online

    blastoff Undocumented Reg. User

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2009
    Messages:
    13,546
    Thanks Received:
    1,709
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Location:
    In a galaxy far far away...
    Ratings:
    +4,620
    How'd you get Clinton to pose for the picture?
     
  5. SniperFire
    Offline

    SniperFire Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Messages:
    13,627
    Thanks Received:
    1,219
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Inside Your Head
    Ratings:
    +1,223

    Told him I had a binder of women for him.
     
  6. rightwinger
    Offline

    rightwinger Paid Messageboard Poster Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    120,388
    Thanks Received:
    19,853
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    NJ & MD
    Ratings:
    +45,431
    Who has ever claimed that employers don't kick in for Social Security?

    Its part of total compensation
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  7. healthmyths
    Offline

    healthmyths Gold Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    Messages:
    15,239
    Thanks Received:
    2,045
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,853
    NO you are WRONG!

    DID YOU CHECK MY sources or are you one of those ignorant millions???

    Employer Payroll Taxes

    Companies are responsible for paying their portion of payroll taxes. These payroll taxes are an added expense over and above the expense of an employee's gross pay. The employer-portion of payroll taxes include the following:
    Social Security taxes (6.2% up to the annual maximum)
    Medicare taxes (1.45% of wages)
    Federal unemployment taxes (FUTA)
    State unemployment taxes (SUTA)

    Payroll Taxes: Basic Information for All Employers

    DO YOU understand plain english?

    COMPANIES must PAY their portion!!!

    YOU obviously have never been AS I AM an employer!
    My accountants deduct from company checking account payments to the IRS for every employee that has SS/Medicare!
    My accounts deduct 6.2% for SS and 1.45% ADDITIONALLY PAID BY MY COMPANY!!!

    DO YOU understand????
     
  8. healthmyths
    Offline

    healthmyths Gold Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2011
    Messages:
    15,239
    Thanks Received:
    2,045
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Ratings:
    +3,853
    Thank you again for showing the economic ignorance of MILLIONS of Americans that don't understand the importance of employers and the JOBS they create!

    NOT only hiring people BUT EMPLOYERS PAY just as the Employee for SS and Medicare!
    These additional monies from the EMPLOYER from Employees AND employers.. ARE all sent to IRS making up 40% of Federal REVENUES!!!
     
  9. rightwinger
    Offline

    rightwinger Paid Messageboard Poster Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Messages:
    120,388
    Thanks Received:
    19,853
    Trophy Points:
    2,190
    Location:
    NJ & MD
    Ratings:
    +45,431
    Employers are not providing a gift.

    They make money off of EVERY employee they hire. Retirement, medical benefits, insurance are all part of the compensation they negotiate with their employees. It is not out of the goodness of their heart.

    For those employers who do not provide adequate salary and benefits.....The TAXPAYER ends up making up the difference
     
  10. Missourian
    Offline

    Missourian Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2008
    Messages:
    16,281
    Thanks Received:
    4,799
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    Missouri
    Ratings:
    +8,124
    When you are a self employed business owner and have to make the total payment for yourself, and the employer share for your employees, you know.
     

Share This Page