Alternatives on the rise

[Pop23]

Big oil is afraid of alternatives... they threaten their profits.

That's why they subsidized the first No Nuke protests you greenies idolize.

Funny aye

 

[initforme]

Any competition must be wiped out right? Millions are spent to advertise how bad alternatives are. Funny aye.

 

[ScienceRocks]

And that is why solar is the second most constructed means of new energy in America!!!!! After natural gas!

Not bad, not bad at all.

 

[Old Rocks]

Liar

OK, Dum-dum, find a site that says that the utilities involved are lying. I posted what they stated.

Don't need to CHERRY PICKER, your link states, "study says", and, "generously subsidized".

The government through rules, laws, regulations and a whole lot of propaganda has dictated the prices of both forms of Energy. Very different than the "cost" of each.

Old Crock, just cause the government gives people free solar and wind does not mean it's free, I pay for it through taxes.

So yes, what Old Crock claims is a lie, I don't need to link cause it's in the article old Crock posted. Old Crock don't read his own links, pretty lame, funny really. How many times have you done that old crock, contradicted your own link, moron!

Such a totally dumb fuck you are, Elektra. Cost sans subsidies is stated within the article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/b...-win-on-price-vs-conventional-fuels.html?_r=1

According to a study by the investment banking firm Lazard, the cost of utility-scale solar energy is as low as 5.6 cents a kilowatt-hour, and wind is as low as 1.4 cents. In comparison, natural gas comes at 6.1 cents a kilowatt-hour on the low end and coal at 6.6 cents. Without subsidies, the firm’s analysis shows, solar costs about 7.2 cents a kilowatt-hour at the low end, with wind at 3.7 cents.

Suggest you repeat the third grade, there, old boy. You know, the part about reading?

No, it's not. Those ARE the subsidized rates silly person. Looks like it's YOU who needs the remedial reading comprehension classes.


You've been spewing this propaganda all over the place, and I've pointed out every time that it is BS. You being paid to shill this shit olfraud?

Walleyes, you continue to be a lying asshole with the written words staring you in the face. The article quite clearly states the subsidized rate, and the unsubsidized rate. Just because that does not fit your opinion is no reason to call the utility boys in Texas liars.

 

[RGR]

And that is why solar is the second most constructed means of new energy in America!!!!! After natural gas!

Not bad, not bad at all.

And your personal basis for declaring that this "isn't bad" is what, exactly? It is good to know that natural gas is kicking ass, it is a wonderful and plentiful fuel we can rely on for all of your lifetime, and then some. Certainly when the sun isn't shining, we need to be able to generate power on demand, and solar can be tricky in that regard, as those of us who know this from personal experience can attest when the sun isn't shining!

But your experience Matthew might be…what…beyond being an advertiser?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Wind is now cheaper per kw than coal without GOVERNMENT.
Solar will be within the next few years!

 

[HenryBHough]

Some jurisdictions in California require people with private wells to have meters on them and pay a "fee" to the County for each gallon drawn from THEIR OWN WELLS.

Now, tell me government can't insist that those with solar panels or bird-killers (wind generators) also have meters attached so they are required to PAY the County for using the wind or sun.

Batteries?

Yeah, for each home with solar/wind power, a BATTERY of machine guns to keep the tax-crazed liberals off the pemises.

 

[ScienceRocks]

if we can rip the earth up looking for coal or natural gas. Why not use the resources of the wind or sun? Which both don't have the same environmental destructive effects on the environment?

 

[initforme]

Why do some hate renewable? If they are viable for an area then they should be encouraged... yet some hate them. That is truly bizarre and those people have no brains. Fossil fuels have their place and renewable have their place. To hate renewable is truly stupid. The sign of an evil person.

 

[elektra]

Some jurisdictions in California require people with private wells to have meters on them and pay a "fee" to the County for each gallon drawn from THEIR OWN WELLS.

Now, tell me government can't insist that those with solar panels or bird-killers (wind generators) also have meters attached so they are required to PAY the County for using the wind or sun.

Batteries?

Yeah, for each home with solar/wind power, a BATTERY of machine guns to keep the tax-crazed liberals off the pemises.

all the personal solar panels are metered, as you say, now. Its how they get the tax credits, the subsidy.

Wind is now cheaper per kw than coal without GOVERNMENT.
Solar will be within the next few years!

No, no, and when will the lies stop.

The Government is Solar and Wind, from the research to the government regulated trade with China where they are built, to the free government land where they are installed with free Environmental Impact reports and most importantly free from the cost of the challenges in Courts, its all free, everything they do. They even get Free Customers, as in the Customers get no choice, kind of like a slave is forced to work, I am forced to Labor for more expensive Solar and Wind because idiots such as Matthew and Old Crock have long ago won. And its not like you won the argument, you bypassed the argument and shoved Solar and Wind down our throats threw tyrannical dictates from government.

Force and Dictatorship.Nothing more.

 

[ScienceRocks]

What's wrong with research? You won't find a single first world nation on earth that don't invest in research. We're not a serious power if we don't do so.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I predict solar will grow to 24gw by 2016 here in America...30gw by 2017, 37gw by 2018.

Solar isn't going anywhere..

 

[HenryBHough]

About "all those personal solar panels (being) metered":

A correction is in order. Yes, solar panels that are being used to back-feed excess energy production to the grid ARE metered. That's called "net metering". The purpose is to have the panel owner paid for what the panels contribute to the grid and to have the utility paid for energy consumed when the panels are not producing.

What's coming is for panels that are NOT feeding back into the grid. Panels feeding batteries to keep things working when the sun doesn't shine. Forcing you to, in effect, pay government for for the sunlight that lands on your panels.

 

[Old Rocks]

You silly whack-a-doodle, why on earth would anyone put a meter on a self sufficient solar set up?

 

[HenryBHough]

You silly whack-a-doodle, why on earth would anyone put a meter on a self sufficient solar set up?

Sorry to hear of your reading comprehension issue!

But because you need a little help, nobody would willingly put a meter on a self sufficient solar setup just as nobody would willingly put a meter on their own water well. However, in parts of California, government mandates that you do just that and pay the county (or local water district) for every drop you draw from YOUR OWN FRIGGEN WELL! Now consider how long it will take for Democrat-ridden, Tax-Happy California to mandate you meter the electricity from your own solar setup and pay a fee for the use of sunshine.

 

[RGR]

if we can rip the earth up looking for coal or natural gas.

So people like you can have power generated for them. Stop asking for the power, and folks won't need to dig anything up to give you.

Why not use the resources of the wind or sun? Which both don't have the same environmental destructive effects on the environment?

Some of us do use wind and sun. Others advertise things that don't even exist for strange reasons.