Alternative High Schools

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    Low test scores outweigh lofty challenges as Trenton charter school faces closure | NJ.com

    This article paints a rosy picture of a school that is most likely out of control. However...

    There is NO expulsion in the State of NJ. These troublemakers are sent to costly, alternative programs simply to protect the other kids. I don't think outsiders (like politicians) get that.

    What to do with the criminals???? Send them back to their regular schools? Scary prospect.

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    Sure.Move to a civilized country. Upgrade to the "Third World !!!"
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    How about reality ?
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    murka. The only nation with a "war college"
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    No. Not wimpy hippies.
    Lots of productive after school activities. No Not football, B ball,baseball and other such irrelevant bullshit.Life lessons.How to be civilized and control your emotions while having fun.
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    Whaaa? :eek:

    You mean I'm not supposed to yell at the TV when a guy takes a stick and hits a rubber ball over a fence?

    I can't get excited when a guy takes a bouncy rubber ball and puts it through a metal hoop?

    I'm supposed to remain calm when a guy knocks a little white ball into a hole in the ground? Are you serious?

    All those things are "Amazing", "Gorgeous" and "Beautiful"! I know they are because the man on the Sports Channel said they are.
     
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    I average around 170 students per year and have less with IEPs this year for some reason. I still have enough to struggle at times being a non-SPED trained teacher, having SPED students mixed with regular ED, whatever regular or normal is.

    Our formerly very high performing system is now just high performing. The parents have insisted on lowering the grade scale and the discipline policy. We can still suspend and expel students but there are four or so agenda items before the Board that will neuter the discipline policy even more. We have 3 or 4 alternative schools that are very expensive to operate. As more of the wealthy parents put their kids in private school, the decision to cut some of the programs for problem children will be easier to make. The parents meanwhile still demand that Little Johnny and Little Precious get into their dream college and blame the neutered system (and teachers) when they do not.

    It has been said that spending more on education means spending less on the prison system. I disagree. The citizenry must decide on where their tax dollar is better spent. Waste time and money on the incorrigible now or warehouse them later at a probable lower cost.
     
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    NJ just changed the formula for the drop out rate. Students sent to alternative programs will no longer count as transfers; but as drop outs. I would suspect that will have a chilling effect on these schools. Why spend the money?
     
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    Numbers and how they are counted do make a difference. For example, this county's test scores (and health care while I'm at it) compared to the rest of the world is much lower. If we were to manipulate the numbers by excluding the ESOL kids, and the ones who have skated through school, and the low SES kids, the SPEDs, and the list goes on, and just reported the scores of our best and brightest, whew, we would be at or near the top.

    When our low numbers come out, the answer is to throw more money at the "problem" but that is not the answer. And of course, the real problem is those high paid teachers, enjoying all those benefits and time off while not teaching the skills needed to compete with the rest of the planet.
     
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    I have a lot to say on this subject, but it's like beating a dead horse. This week a lot of the teachers were talking about the obesity rate and the number of overweight children at our school. The problem is a: instant gratification from high fat foods and b: lack of exercise. This phenomena can be seen in the classrooms as well. Too many kids are LAZY (profane word in education) and they have no self control. Education has become a passive experience where the teachers are supposed to "feed them" the information while entertaining them. If the subject is difficult or boring, they will fail and blame the teachers. How do we change that?
     

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