Allan West advises treason

[Moonglow]

West is proof that even a black man can be free to associate himself with white idiots..

 

[emilynghiem]

Is this referring to the fact that he fired a shot past the head
of the man being interrogated, who then revealed information that saved the lives of US troops
that West had sworn to protect?

Such terrorists bypass due process to act as judge, jury and executioner;
and although our Constitution does not allow America to bypass due process the way terrorists do,
higher spiritual laws do call for certain people like West to "render unto others as they do"
and hold them to their OWN systems of justice. It is a Natural Law to exercise religious
freedom, and to petition for redress of grievances in the spirit of peace through justice law and order
as West was enforcing and not trying to violate.

Man's laws are not perfect and the terrorist tactics are deliberately testing those procedures.

But God's laws are perfect, and West was following those; thus, nobody got hurt
when he did what God called him to do in this situation, and he was released instead of
more seriously punished. God's grace was on him the whole time, and it saved
the lives of his men to follow what God set him in place to do.

This is a test if we are going to be legalistic and punish people for doing the right thing.
Or if we are going to follow the spirit of the laws, and enforce Equal Justice for All as West
was doing with these terrorists, and not haggle over the letter and shoot ourselves in the foot.

He had to compromise by exceeding the procedures in order to save the lives of his men.

Other people who have shot to kill in defending life have been exonerated afterwards,
even if procedures were bypassed, so West should AT LEAST be given the same consideration
where he didn't kill or hurt anyone, but his actions succeeded in saving lives.

He is amazingly humble and credits everything to God, his parents, and the opportunities
in America that he wants to see all people benefit from.

When you take him out of the political context of "raging against the machine"
you have a compassionate man of wisdom and conviction who is aggrieved
for the problems tearing down the country and is
open to whatever God calls us to uplift America to where we need to be.

 

[emilynghiem]

Ha ha Moonglow! I will tell my boyfriend you said that.
So indirectly, I can imply he is one of those idiots!

P.S. When I read my boyfriend's hand signed copy of West's book,
I got stuck on the part where he summarizes the political history of America
and where our laws and political sides came from. I want this taught in all schools
so we all get on the same page, left and right, and every group to know where
each other is coming from.

The difference between me and West, is he is alarmed and aggrieved that liberals
don't get where this is coming from and sees the different ideologies as dangerous,
and I see it as BETTER to UNDERSTAND this history to EMBRACE
our differences in order to work WITH them AS IS. So we both want public education on
laws and knowledge of the govt and political/democratic process; but I see that
we can WORK with both parties and keep the differences as they are, while he
(and my boyfriend) are generally horrified by liberal ignorance and the politics of the Democrat Party.

I am not afraid of our differences, and want more people to understand
appreciate and USE those differences to make this machine work!

 

[emilynghiem]

??? Is there an emoticon/smiley for "taken out of context"?

If anything, West is baffled and overwhelmed at the amount of education
it will take to get everyone equal and on the same page so there is not this division
between rich and poor, have and have nots, fearing and resenting each other.

He may not even think it is possible.
But I believe in working with the Democrat Party, Obama and others,
to educate all the masses so we can be on the same page with
America's history and future.

I am guessing West must have been referring to the failed system of
trying to artificially simulate equality by using Affirmative Action quotas or other means.

We need REAL equality through Equal Knowledge of
the laws of finance, govt, and especially equal Land Ownership
even owning and running independent cities, schools, hospitals, prisons and govt
if people are going to be EQUAL with govt and stop these power grabbing fights.

None of this fake stuff is going to make us equal.
We would have to build and manage whole systems by ourselves
to be fully and equally empowered, so that takes longterm
education, training and mentorship to offer this opportunity to all citizens.

No way to pull that off except the Democrats, Republicans,
Libertarians, Greens and others ALL WORK TOGETHER
to set up sustainable campuses for jobs, housing, health care,
and services to teach all communities to become independent.

You want equality? So do I!
We are all going to have to work as equals to build it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Screeching Tea Partier Allen West Wants U.S. Military To Defy Orders Obama Never Gave

Allen West has been screaming about President Obama allowing undocumented immigrants to serve in the U.S. military for a couple of weeks. To hear West talk about it, Obama threw the doors of our military wide open to any and every undocumented immigrant out there specifically as a ploy to circumvent Congress in granting amnesty (which was so popular under George the Lesser, but not with a black Democrat in the White House).


According to right-wing conspiracy site blog Conservative Tribune, Allen West rightly called for the military to resist Obama’s illegal executive order for illegals to become legal through military service. This will lead to huge growth in the Democratic Party’s base, which is obviously Obama’s ultimate goal.


Allen West originally posted his opinion of the Department of Defense’s rule change the day after they announced it. He said then:


“Morning folks. While you were sleeping, Barack Hussein Obama took out his pen and ordered our Military to enlist illegal aliens. In other words, this charlatan has allowed those who have disrespected our Constitution and are not citizens to take an oath to support and defend the very document, our rule of law, of which they are in violation. Obama has no constitutional authority to make any laws or rules concerning naturalization as stated in Art I Sect 8 Clause 4. This is an illegal order and should not be followed by our Military. As well, we are pink-slipping men and women in uniform, Americans, and Obama wants to enlist illegals. We are already outsourcing our national security to Syrian Islamists. This is intolerable and just another reason why we must flip the Senate and begin to reverse Obama’s tyranny. Any Democrat supporting this illegal order needs to be voted out!”



While it’s true that the DoD recently expanded the rules of the Military Accession to the National Interest program (MAVNI) to consider undocumented workers, the program itself has been around since the end of the Bush era. It takes advantage of Section 329 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which states that a person may become a citizen of the U.S. without first becoming a legal permanent resident, if they serve in the military and meet certain qualifications. Congress passed that law way back in 1952.


What executive order is Allen West talking about?

This guy just gets crazier every day. Read the rest at the link.

And here's what the tea party network reported:

Allen West Obama s Latest Executive Order Unlawful and Military Members Well Within Their Rights to Disobey it

Now I know why this crazy got booted out of the Army.

Something about plywood, amiright?

 

[Moonglow]

Is this referring to the fact that he fired a shot past the head
of the man being interrogated, who then revealed information that saved the lives of US troops
that West had sworn to protect?

Such terrorists bypass due process to act as judge, jury and executioner;
and although our Constitution does not allow America to bypass due process the way terrorists do,
higher spiritual laws do call for certain people like West to "render unto others as they do"
and hold them to their OWN systems of justice. It is a Natural Law to exercise religious
freedom, and to petition for redress of grievances in the spirit of peace through justice law and order
as West was enforcing and not trying to violate.

Man's laws are not perfect and the terrorist tactics are deliberately testing those procedures.

But God's laws are perfect, and West was following those; thus, nobody got hurt
when he did what God called him to do in this situation, and he was released instead of
more seriously punished. God's grace was on him the whole time, and it saved
the lives of his men to follow what God set him in place to do.

This is a test if we are going to be legalistic and punish people for doing the right thing.
Or if we are going to follow the spirit of the laws, and enforce Equal Justice for All as West
was doing with these terrorists, and not haggle over the letter and shoot ourselves in the foot.

He had to compromise by exceeding the procedures in order to save the lives of his men.

Other people who have shot to kill in defending life have been exonerated afterwards,
even if procedures were bypassed, so West should AT LEAST be given the same consideration
where he didn't kill or hurt anyone, but his actions succeeded in saving lives.

He is amazingly humble and credits everything to God, his parents, and the opportunities
in America that he wants to see all people benefit from.

When you take him out of the political context of "raging against the machine"
you have a compassionate man of wisdom and conviction who is aggrieved
for the problems tearing down the country and is
open to whatever God calls us to uplift America to where we need to be.

So you do not believing in having a higher standard of conduct than the enemy???Shall we open up the concentration camps also?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Screeching Tea Partier Allen West Wants U.S. Military To Defy Orders Obama Never Gave

Allen West has been screaming about President Obama allowing undocumented immigrants to serve in the U.S. military for a couple of weeks. To hear West talk about it, Obama threw the doors of our military wide open to any and every undocumented immigrant out there specifically as a ploy to circumvent Congress in granting amnesty (which was so popular under George the Lesser, but not with a black Democrat in the White House).


According to right-wing conspiracy site blog Conservative Tribune, Allen West rightly called for the military to resist Obama’s illegal executive order for illegals to become legal through military service. This will lead to huge growth in the Democratic Party’s base, which is obviously Obama’s ultimate goal.


Allen West originally posted his opinion of the Department of Defense’s rule change the day after they announced it. He said then:


“Morning folks. While you were sleeping, Barack Hussein Obama took out his pen and ordered our Military to enlist illegal aliens. In other words, this charlatan has allowed those who have disrespected our Constitution and are not citizens to take an oath to support and defend the very document, our rule of law, of which they are in violation. Obama has no constitutional authority to make any laws or rules concerning naturalization as stated in Art I Sect 8 Clause 4. This is an illegal order and should not be followed by our Military. As well, we are pink-slipping men and women in uniform, Americans, and Obama wants to enlist illegals. We are already outsourcing our national security to Syrian Islamists. This is intolerable and just another reason why we must flip the Senate and begin to reverse Obama’s tyranny. Any Democrat supporting this illegal order needs to be voted out!”



While it’s true that the DoD recently expanded the rules of the Military Accession to the National Interest program (MAVNI) to consider undocumented workers, the program itself has been around since the end of the Bush era. It takes advantage of Section 329 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which states that a person may become a citizen of the U.S. without first becoming a legal permanent resident, if they serve in the military and meet certain qualifications. Congress passed that law way back in 1952.


What executive order is Allen West talking about?

This guy just gets crazier every day. Read the rest at the link.

And here's what the tea party network reported:

Allen West Obama s Latest Executive Order Unlawful and Military Members Well Within Their Rights to Disobey it

Uh, isn't defying/not performing orders a President never gave proper though?

 

[Moonglow]

Screeching Tea Partier Allen West Wants U.S. Military To Defy Orders Obama Never Gave

Allen West has been screaming about President Obama allowing undocumented immigrants to serve in the U.S. military for a couple of weeks. To hear West talk about it, Obama threw the doors of our military wide open to any and every undocumented immigrant out there specifically as a ploy to circumvent Congress in granting amnesty (which was so popular under George the Lesser, but not with a black Democrat in the White House).


According to right-wing conspiracy site blog Conservative Tribune, Allen West rightly called for the military to resist Obama’s illegal executive order for illegals to become legal through military service. This will lead to huge growth in the Democratic Party’s base, which is obviously Obama’s ultimate goal.


Allen West originally posted his opinion of the Department of Defense’s rule change the day after they announced it. He said then:


“Morning folks. While you were sleeping, Barack Hussein Obama took out his pen and ordered our Military to enlist illegal aliens. In other words, this charlatan has allowed those who have disrespected our Constitution and are not citizens to take an oath to support and defend the very document, our rule of law, of which they are in violation. Obama has no constitutional authority to make any laws or rules concerning naturalization as stated in Art I Sect 8 Clause 4. This is an illegal order and should not be followed by our Military. As well, we are pink-slipping men and women in uniform, Americans, and Obama wants to enlist illegals. We are already outsourcing our national security to Syrian Islamists. This is intolerable and just another reason why we must flip the Senate and begin to reverse Obama’s tyranny. Any Democrat supporting this illegal order needs to be voted out!”



While it’s true that the DoD recently expanded the rules of the Military Accession to the National Interest program (MAVNI) to consider undocumented workers, the program itself has been around since the end of the Bush era. It takes advantage of Section 329 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which states that a person may become a citizen of the U.S. without first becoming a legal permanent resident, if they serve in the military and meet certain qualifications. Congress passed that law way back in 1952.


What executive order is Allen West talking about?

This guy just gets crazier every day. Read the rest at the link.

And here's what the tea party network reported:

Allen West Obama s Latest Executive Order Unlawful and Military Members Well Within Their Rights to Disobey it

Uh, isn't defying/not performing orders a President never gave proper though?

It like doing something then claim you didn't...

 

[pinqy]

Is this referring to the fact that he fired a shot past the head
of the man being interrogated, who then revealed information that saved the lives of US troops
that West had sworn to protect?

You mean that after West learned he was personally targeted, he captured a prisoner based on unconfirmed and unreliable information, took over an interrogation he was neither authorized nor qualified to conduct, allowed his men to beat a prisoner, threatened the prisoner, then fired his weapon near the prisoner's head to and gained information that turned out to be useless, and which the prisoner later recanted claiming he made up stuff out of fear of death?

Such terrorists bypass due process to act as judge, jury and executioner;
and although our Constitution does not allow America to bypass due process the way terrorists do,
higher spiritual laws do call for certain people like West to "render unto others as they do"
and hold them to their OWN systems of justice. It is a Natural Law to exercise religious
freedom, and to petition for redress of grievances in the spirit of peace through justice law and order
as West was enforcing and not trying to violate.

Except he swore before God to "well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office." He broke that oath when he violated regulations an an illegal act.

So....while the attacks did stop, the specific information obtained from the prisoner turned out to be useless: there was no attempt at an attack when he claimed, and none of the leads to other alleged conspirators showed any sign of conspiracy. And you can't claim higher morality when he broke his oath to God.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

As batshit crazy as this is, what is really an education is to read the incendiary and nonsensical quotes that Vigilante posted as a defense for the man.

Allen West is certifiable.