All you welfare haters... how about this?

[Steelplate]

We start a new age "Conservation Corps"? If you don't know what the Conservation Corps was... then you are either.

A. Too young
B. Too ignorant of history

What my proposal for welfare reform is this:

We have a crumbling infrastructure.. our roads and bridges suck, our water supplies are outdated, our electrical grid runs at approximately 34% EFFICIENCY!!!!

Let's get our current welfare recipients working.... for... you guessed it... The Federal Government.

Now before you scream socialism(like you always do), hear me out. In the beginning, we take our welfare folks and mandate them to work for their benefits. We train them, we offer them child care(for those single mothers out there), and we make the jobs as conveniently located as possible.

NOW... pay attention... IT WILL COST MORE TO DO THIS THAN THE CURRENT MODEL!

But, you will be getting something for your tax dollar, won't you? Not only that, but I personally feel that a sense of EMPOWERMENT beats a sense of ENTITLEMENT tenfold. You get these people into a real world working environment and most of them will respond.

Sure... there may be a certain percentage that will be a ditch digger for the rest of their lives, but so what? Even as a ditch digger, you are getting productivity for your tax dollar.

 

[JBeukema]

Big-government socialism saved the Reagan family farm.

Therefore it is evil.

 

[Steelplate]

WTF?

In English please.

 

[Antiderivative]

Welfare has its administration problem, but these problem are not as bad as rw kooks state. For example, Reagan attacked welkfare moms, but didn't provide evidence. He thought every welfare mom was abusing the system and driving around in a Cadillac fabricating their SSN and their husband's death.

However, Cons do not see the world in this light. Instead, they see it as a personal affront on them, which is odd. Most Red States receive welfare from Liberal States.

I say fuck them and their welfare. However, Cons hate the free market. They only lobby for it when it benefits them.

 

[American Cowboy]

How about welfare leaches just pay it back when they get on their feet? Then it is a hand up and not a hand out. You pay it back, your no longer a leach.

 

[Spoonman]

WTF?

In English please.

don't expect anything but giberish from him

 

[Avatar4321]

I don't have a problem paying them to work. It's the getting something for nothing that I have problems with because it corrupts the body and the mind.

oh and FYI, usually isnt smart to talk down to the people you are trying to talk with. Just saying.

 

[Spoonman]

We start a new age "Conservation Corps"? If you don't know what the Conservation Corps was... then you are either.

A. Too young
B. Too ignorant of history

What my proposal for welfare reform is this:

We have a crumbling infrastructure.. our roads and bridges suck, our water supplies are outdated, our electrical grid runs at approximately 34% EFFICIENCY!!!!

Let's get our current welfare recipients working.... for... you guessed it... The Federal Government.

Now before you scream socialism(like you always do), hear me out. In the beginning, we take our welfare folks and mandate them to work for their benefits. We train them, we offer them child care(for those single mothers out there), and we make the jobs as conveniently located as possible.

NOW... pay attention... IT WILL COST MORE TO DO THIS THAN THE CURRENT MODEL!

But, you will be getting something for your tax dollar, won't you? Not only that, but I personally feel that a sense of EMPOWERMENT beats a sense of ENTITLEMENT tenfold. You get these people into a real world working environment and most of them will respond.

Sure... there may be a certain percentage that will be a ditch digger for the rest of their lives, but so what? Even as a ditch digger, you are getting productivity for your tax dollar.

I've always been fine with that. Which is how roosevelt actually set it up originally. people even had to get up and got to where the work was. and you know what? they did. there was no free handout and people were motivated

 

[percysunshine]

Let's all work for the government. Then we can pay ourselves, and go on strike when we are being too stingy with ourselves...wait...something is wrong with this formula...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Let's get our current welfare recipients working.... for... you guessed it... The Federal Government.

First, it depends on what you mean by ‘welfare.’

This is more than likely a non-starter for Food Stamps, as an entitlement program you’re looking at an extensive legislative overhaul similar to 1996.

TANF (Cash Assistance) is not an entitlement, so it may work with this program, as TANF recipients are required to perform community service or work experience for their benefits anyway if not attending school.

And it won’t work for SSI as these individuals meet Federal disability criteria.

 

[Antiderivative]

I have a problem with the uber rich capturing productive gains in the last three decades.

This is why I am liberal. Conservatives refuse to look at this problem while expounding the "labor productivity"? or welfare distributions. Then they turn around and violate Bastiat's and Locke's assump0tion and ignorantly proclaim that we are on the wrong side of the Laffer Curve.

Seriously, RW Kooks are absent from political discussion, even though they utter inanities about the free market.

 

[percysunshine]

I have a problem with the uber rich capturing productive gains in the last three decades.

This is why I am liberal. Conservatives refuse to look at this problem while expounding the "labor productivity"? or welfare distributions. Then they turn around and violate Bastiat's and Locke's assump0tion and ignorantly proclaim that we are on the wrong side of the Laffer Curve.

Seriously, RW Kooks are absent from political discussion, even though they utter inanities about the free market.

The uber rich are all liberals. Guess how much money Nancy Pelosi has stashed away.

 

[Ravi]

How about welfare leaches just pay it back when they get on their feet? Then it is a hand up and not a hand out. You pay it back, your no longer a leach.

Is that seriously a cowboy wearing chaps over his naked ass in your avatar?

 

[Steelplate]

SSI Is a different story. I work with folks that get SSI. They are in an institution for the developmentally disabled(read:mentally retarded).

IMO, IF you have the documentation... you are exempt. Dammit, that's one area where I will not compromise. Sure, you could have a team of shyster lawyers trying to fuck people out of existence, But I'd rather err on the side of caution than to screw even ONE disabled person.

 

[percysunshine]

How about welfare leaches just pay it back when they get on their feet? Then it is a hand up and not a hand out. You pay it back, your no longer a leach.

Is that seriously a cowboy wearing chaps over his naked ass in your avatar?

Look like jeans to me. But let your imagination run wild.

 

[Ravi]

How about welfare leaches just pay it back when they get on their feet? Then it is a hand up and not a hand out. You pay it back, your no longer a leach.

Is that seriously a cowboy wearing chaps over his naked ass in your avatar?

Look like jeans to me. But let your imagination run wild.

It looks like Ronnie pretending to be a naked cowboy.

My eyes are burning.

 

[Antiderivative]

I have a problem with the uber rich capturing productive gains in the last three decades.

This is why I am liberal. Conservatives refuse to look at this problem while expounding the "labor productivity"? or welfare distributions. Then they turn around and violate Bastiat's and Locke's assump0tion and ignorantly proclaim that we are on the wrong side of the Laffer Curve.

Seriously, RW Kooks are absent from political discussion, even though they utter inanities about the free market.

The uber rich are all liberals. Guess how much money Nancy Pelosi has stashed away.

Pelosi is a bitch on so many levels. And Agent Orange (ie Boehner) sucks.


Where in my post did I validate the Speaker of the House?

 

[Steelplate]

The uber rich are all liberals. Guess how much money Nancy Pelosi has stashed away.

Gimme a fuckin' break. Nancy Pelosi? You really want to go there?

How 'bout the old lady from California that ran against Jerry Brown? Whitman?

Shall we compare tax returns?

You are a sheep for the right wing.

 

[Antiderivative]

The uber rich are all liberals. Guess how much money Nancy Pelosi has stashed away.

Gimme a fuckin' break. Nancy Pelosi? You really want to go there?

How 'bout the old lady from California that ran against Jerry Brown? Whitman?

Shall we compare tax returns?

You are a sheep for the right wing.

This is a man who has his fact corrected. Brown was responsible for CA being a leader while being fiscally conservative.

Imagine that? Brown brought prosperity to CA while bringing fiscal independence.

A True Liberal.

 

[Steelplate]

But he's a Dem... so that means he has to be a Communist... right?