All Those Growing Glaciers...

[elvis]

Dooodeee...... baby, this is utter bullshit. Those links are complete lies. But what else are we to expect from you.

Refutation of such bullshit on one link;

Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

Whatever, old hack.

Surely whatever, you post trash, and get your ass kicked.

Trash? He didn't post anything from Jones and Mann. That was you you senile old fuck.

 

[Oddball]

One place is not the whole world.

In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.

Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations

Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca

Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian

Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking « Apostle Islands Navigator

Dooodeee...... baby, this is utter bullshit. Those links are complete lies. But what else are we to expect from you.

Refutation of such bullshit on one link;

Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

Source: UCB University of Colorado Boulder.

Hmmmm...What's wrong with this picture??......Oh yeah!!

Kevin E. Trenberth: Head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), University of Colorado, Boulder. Lead author of the 2001(3rd) and 2007(4th) IPCC’s Scientific Assessment of Climate Change. Has declared the debate over and written “the IPCC has spoken.” Also, an apparent supporter of slipping AGW propaganda into otherwise mundane news and weather reports: “It seems like there is scope for a number of short bits about various topics that could be folded into the news when appropriate, as certain events occur…”

Tom Wigley: Climatologist at the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR), which also serves as a manager for NCAR. Holds to the most pessimistic view that AGW is beyond reversal, and calls for the most draconian measures to halt what he claims is beyond halting.

 

[elvis]

One place is not the whole world.

In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.

Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations

Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca

Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian

arctic ice growing 2009 - Google Search

But Mann, Jones, and uncle Al disagree!!

But I'm fingering Al Gore's anus.

We know.

 

[Chris]

Whatever, old hack.

Surely whatever, you post trash, and get your ass kicked.

I'm not getting anything kicked, you dried up old cargo cultist.

No actually you have gotten your ass kicked since you came on here.

 

[Oddball]

Boring people to death with the same half dozen platitudes, talking points and outright lies is not kicking anyone's ass, Gomer.

 

[Sinatra]

One place is not the whole world.

In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.

Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations

Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca

Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian

Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking « Apostle Islands Navigator

Dooodeee...... baby, this is utter bullshit. Those links are complete lies. But what else are we to expect from you.

Refutation of such bullshit on one link;

Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

Source: UCB University of Colorado Boulder.

Hmmmm...What's wrong with this picture??......Oh yeah!!

Kevin E. Trenberth: Head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), University of Colorado, Boulder. Lead author of the 2001(3rd) and 2007(4th) IPCC’s Scientific Assessment of Climate Change. Has declared the debate over and written “the IPCC has spoken.” Also, an apparent supporter of slipping AGW propaganda into otherwise mundane news and weather reports: “It seems like there is scope for a number of short bits about various topics that could be folded into the news when appropriate, as certain events occur…”

Tom Wigley: Climatologist at the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR), which also serves as a manager for NCAR. Holds to the most pessimistic view that AGW is beyond reversal, and calls for the most draconian measures to halt what he claims is beyond halting.

Dude brings his A-Game on this one.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Quite a list!


List of expanding glaciers

http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...-glacier-advances-despite-global-warming.html


bullshit list provided by bullshit artists presented by bullshit artists the umpteenth time, well done

 

[Chris]

The World Glacier Monitoring Service is the last word on this issue....

ScienceDaily (Feb. 4, 2009) — Glaciers around the globe continue to melt at high rates. Tentative figures for the year 2007, of the World Glacier Monitoring Service at the University of Zurich, Switzerland, indicate a further loss of average ice thickness of roughly 0.67 meter water equivalent (m w.e.). Some glaciers in the European Alps lost up to 2.5 m w.e.

The new still tentative data of more than 80 glaciers confirm the global trend of fast ice loss since 1980. Glaciers with long-term observation series (30 glaciers in 9 mountain ranges) have experienced a reduction in total thickness of more than 11 m w.e. until 2007. The average annual ice loss during 1980-1999 was roughly 0.3 m w.e. per year. Since 2000, this rate has increased to about 0.7 m w.e. per year.

Michael Zemp, glaciologist and research associate of the WGMS, said: «The average ice loss in 2007 was not as extreme as in 2006, but there were large differences between mountain ranges. Glaciers in the European Alps lost up to 2.5 meters water equivalent of ice, whereas maritime glaciers in Scandinavia were able to gain more than a meter in thickness. However, 2007 is now the sixth year of this century in which the average ice loss of the reference glaciers has exceeded half a meter. This has resulted in a more than doubling of the melt rates of the 1980s and 90s.»

For the observation period 2007, dramatic ice losses were reported from glaciers in the European Alps, such as of the Hintereisferner (-1.8 m w.e.) or the Sonnblickkess (-2.2 m w.e.) in Austria, the Sarennes (-2.5 m w.e.) in France, the Caresèr (-2.8 m w.e.) in Italy, or of the Silvretta (-1.3 m w.e.) and Gries (-1.7 m w.e.) in Switzerland. In Norway, many maritime glaciers were able to gain mass, e.g. the Nigardsbreen (+1.0 m w.e.) or the Ålfotbreen (+1.3 m w.e.), although the glaciers further inland have continued to shrink, e.g. the Hellstugubreen or the Gråsubreen (both with -0.7 m w.e.).

All mass balance programmes in South American reported negative values ranging from -0.1 m w.e. at the Echaurren Norte in Chile to -2.2 m w.e. at the Ritacuba Negro in Columbia. In North America some positive values were reported from the North Cascade Mountains and the Juneau Ice Field together with a continued ice loss from the glaciers in the Kenai Mountains and the Alaskan Range as well as from Canada’s Coast Mountains and High Arctic.

Glaciers Around The Globe Continue To Melt At High Rates

 

[elvis]

The World Glacier Monitoring Service is the last word on this issue....

ScienceDaily (Feb. 4, 2009) — Glaciers around the globe continue to melt at high rates. Tentative figures for the year 2007, of the World Glacier Monitoring Service at the University of Zurich, Switzerland, indicate a further loss of average ice thickness of roughly 0.67 meter water equivalent (m w.e.). Some glaciers in the European Alps lost up to 2.5 m w.e.

The new still tentative data of more than 80 glaciers confirm the global trend of fast ice loss since 1980. Glaciers with long-term observation series (30 glaciers in 9 mountain ranges) have experienced a reduction in total thickness of more than 11 m w.e. until 2007. The average annual ice loss during 1980-1999 was roughly 0.3 m w.e. per year. Since 2000, this rate has increased to about 0.7 m w.e. per year.

Michael Zemp, glaciologist and research associate of the WGMS, said: «The average ice loss in 2007 was not as extreme as in 2006, but there were large differences between mountain ranges. Glaciers in the European Alps lost up to 2.5 meters water equivalent of ice, whereas maritime glaciers in Scandinavia were able to gain more than a meter in thickness. However, 2007 is now the sixth year of this century in which the average ice loss of the reference glaciers has exceeded half a meter. This has resulted in a more than doubling of the melt rates of the 1980s and 90s.»

For the observation period 2007, dramatic ice losses were reported from glaciers in the European Alps, such as of the Hintereisferner (-1.8 m w.e.) or the Sonnblickkess (-2.2 m w.e.) in Austria, the Sarennes (-2.5 m w.e.) in France, the Caresèr (-2.8 m w.e.) in Italy, or of the Silvretta (-1.3 m w.e.) and Gries (-1.7 m w.e.) in Switzerland. In Norway, many maritime glaciers were able to gain mass, e.g. the Nigardsbreen (+1.0 m w.e.) or the Ålfotbreen (+1.3 m w.e.), although the glaciers further inland have continued to shrink, e.g. the Hellstugubreen or the Gråsubreen (both with -0.7 m w.e.).

All mass balance programmes in South American reported negative values ranging from -0.1 m w.e. at the Echaurren Norte in Chile to -2.2 m w.e. at the Ritacuba Negro in Columbia. In North America some positive values were reported from the North Cascade Mountains and the Juneau Ice Field together with a continued ice loss from the glaciers in the Kenai Mountains and the Alaskan Range as well as from Canada’s Coast Mountains and High Arctic.

Glaciers Around The Globe Continue To Melt At High Rates

ok, how many of THESE people are being investigated for fraud?

 

[Chris]

This gets my vote for thread of the year....

Junk Science: David Bellamy's Inaccurate and Selective Figures on Glacier Shrinkage are a Boon to Climate Change Deniers GEORGE MONBIOT / The Guardian (UK) 10may2005

But I still couldn't put the question out of my mind. The figures that Bellamy cited must have come from somewhere. I emailed him to ask for his source. After several requests, he replied to me at the end of last week. The data, he said, came from a website called www.iceagenow.com. Iceagenow was constructed by a man called Robert W Felix to promote his self-published book about "the coming ice age". It claims that sea levels are falling, not rising; that the Asian tsunami was caused by the "ice age cycle"; and that "underwater volcanic activity — not human activity — is heating the seas".

Is Felix a climatologist, a volcanologist or an oceanographer? Er, none of the above. His biography describes him as a "former architect". His website is so bonkers that I thought at first it was a spoof. Sadly, he appears to believe what he says. But there, indeed, was all the material that Bellamy cited in his letter, including the figures — or something resembling the figures — he quoted. "Since 1980, there has been an advance of more than 55% of the 625 mountain glaciers under observation by the World Glacier Monitoring group in Zurich." The source, which Bellamy also cited in his email to me, was given as "the latest issue of 21st Century Science and Technology".

21st Century Science and Technology? It sounds impressive, until you discover that it is published by Lyndon LaRouche. Lyndon LaRouche is the American demagogue who in 1989 received a 15-year sentence for conspiracy, mail fraud and tax-code violations. He has claimed that the British royal family is running an international drugs syndicate, that Henry Kissinger is a communist agent, that the British government is controlled by Jewish bankers, and that modern science is a conspiracy against human potential.

It wasn't hard to find out that this is one of his vehicles: LaRouche is named on the front page of the magazine's website, and the edition Bellamy cites contains an article beginning: "We in LaRouche's Youth Movement find ourselves in combat with an old enemy that destroys human beings ... it is empiricism."

 

[Sinatra]

Now Chris is enamored of the global new world order utopian Monbiot to support his flat earth warmer feelings? If you wish to utilize the paint of self interest, you best apply it equally dear boy...

____

Visionary George Monbiot's road map for a global democratic revolution. George Monbiot is known to millions for his newspaper commentaries, which are widely circulated on the Internet. Monbiot's Manifesto for a New World Order offers a plan for transforming the world into a decent place for all. All over the planet, the rich get richer while the poor are overtaken by debt and disaster. The world is run by a handful of executives who make the most important of decisions, concerning war, peace, debt, development, and the balance of trade. Without democracy at the global level, the rest of us are left in the dark. George Monbiot shows us how to turn on the light. Emphasizing not only that things ought to change but also revealing how to change them, Monbiot develops an interlocking set of proposals that mark him as the most realistic utopian of our time. With detailed discussions of what a world parliament might look like, how trade can be organized fairly, and how underdeveloped nations can leverage their debt to obtain real change, Manifesto for a New World Order offers a truly global perspective, a defense of democracy, and an understanding of power and how it might be captured from those unfit to retain it.

Manifesto for a New World Order - Google Books


A champion of not owning cars, Monbiot actually owns a car. He once described the pro-car lobby as “antisocial bastards” [2] and has blamed cars for ruining children’s lives. “Our children are growing upsocially stunted: instead of playing together they are playing alone on their computers, in part because the only available public spaces have gone.” [3]

Monbiot drives a Renault Clio, not the most frugal in fuel consumption or carbon emissions.[citation needed] He bought it from a friend for an undisclosed amount. It emits 115g/km , 10% higher than a Toyota Prius, the petrol-electric hybrid beloved of the green movement. "I’ve had to break a long-time commitment," he explained, "but the only way to get by, we decided, was to have the occasional use of a car.” [4]

In his latest book, 'Heat', Monbiot worked out that the coach was the greenest form of travel, in terms of CO2 emissions per person per kilometre. But does Monbiot use it? No. “Coach travel would be slightly better [than the train] but I will be damned if I’m going round the country in the current system,” he says. “If you’ve got loads of time and very little money -- if you’re unemployed, say -- the coach is the way to go. But if you need to get anywhere that day, it’s unusable."

Monbiot admits to being “a terrible boy racer” in his youth, tearing up country roads in his first car, a Renault 8. “I should have been banned,” he says. “I didn’t have enough sense at the wheel.” Now Monbiot has begun campaigning to have speed cameras installed in Machynlleth in west Wales where he lives, citing “problems with boy racers”. [5]

Monbiot has stated that air travel is unacceptable. "Global warming means that flying across the Atlantic is now as unacceptable as child abuse," he wrote in a 1999 article. [6] Yet he himself traveled an undisclosed amount of transatlantic air miles to promote his book "Heat - How to stop the planet burning," a book which highlights the unacceptability of transatlantic travel. Monbiot also believes that self-enforced abstinence is a waste of time: “Why bother installing an energy-efficient lightbulb when a man in Lanarkshire boasts of attaching 1.2 million Christmas lights to his house?”


George Monbiot - SourceWatch

 

[Chris]

Who cares?

He nailed your "former architect" and his bogus infomation.

 

[Sinatra]

Now Chris is enamored of the global new world order utopian Monbiot to support his flat earth warmer feelings? If you wish to utilize the paint of self interest, you best apply it equally dear boy...

____

Visionary George Monbiot's road map for a global democratic revolution. George Monbiot is known to millions for his newspaper commentaries, which are widely circulated on the Internet. Monbiot's Manifesto for a New World Order offers a plan for transforming the world into a decent place for all. All over the planet, the rich get richer while the poor are overtaken by debt and disaster. The world is run by a handful of executives who make the most important of decisions, concerning war, peace, debt, development, and the balance of trade. Without democracy at the global level, the rest of us are left in the dark. George Monbiot shows us how to turn on the light. Emphasizing not only that things ought to change but also revealing how to change them, Monbiot develops an interlocking set of proposals that mark him as the most realistic utopian of our time. With detailed discussions of what a world parliament might look like, how trade can be organized fairly, and how underdeveloped nations can leverage their debt to obtain real change, Manifesto for a New World Order offers a truly global perspective, a defense of democracy, and an understanding of power and how it might be captured from those unfit to retain it.

Manifesto for a New World Order - Google Books


A champion of not owning cars, Monbiot actually owns a car. He once described the pro-car lobby as “antisocial bastards” [2] and has blamed cars for ruining children’s lives. “Our children are growing upsocially stunted: instead of playing together they are playing alone on their computers, in part because the only available public spaces have gone.” [3]

Monbiot drives a Renault Clio, not the most frugal in fuel consumption or carbon emissions.[citation needed] He bought it from a friend for an undisclosed amount. It emits 115g/km , 10% higher than a Toyota Prius, the petrol-electric hybrid beloved of the green movement. "I’ve had to break a long-time commitment," he explained, "but the only way to get by, we decided, was to have the occasional use of a car.” [4]

In his latest book, 'Heat', Monbiot worked out that the coach was the greenest form of travel, in terms of CO2 emissions per person per kilometre. But does Monbiot use it? No. “Coach travel would be slightly better [than the train] but I will be damned if I’m going round the country in the current system,” he says. “If you’ve got loads of time and very little money -- if you’re unemployed, say -- the coach is the way to go. But if you need to get anywhere that day, it’s unusable."

Monbiot admits to being “a terrible boy racer” in his youth, tearing up country roads in his first car, a Renault 8. “I should have been banned,” he says. “I didn’t have enough sense at the wheel.” Now Monbiot has begun campaigning to have speed cameras installed in Machynlleth in west Wales where he lives, citing “problems with boy racers”. [5]

Monbiot has stated that air travel is unacceptable. "Global warming means that flying across the Atlantic is now as unacceptable as child abuse," he wrote in a 1999 article. [6] Yet he himself traveled an undisclosed amount of transatlantic air miles to promote his book "Heat - How to stop the planet burning," a book which highlights the unacceptability of transatlantic travel. Monbiot also believes that self-enforced abstinence is a waste of time: “Why bother installing an energy-efficient lightbulb when a man in Lanarkshire boasts of attaching 1.2 million Christmas lights to his house?”


George Monbiot - SourceWatch

Sorry Chris, you were schooled yet again...

 

[Chris]

Sorry, you quoted a website from a "former architect" who is selling a book about global cooling and who is posting made up research papers that don't exist.

Meanwhile every major scientific society on the planet disagrees with you.

 

[Sinatra]

Now Chris is enamored of the global new world order utopian Monbiot to support his flat earth warmer feelings? If you wish to utilize the paint of self interest, you best apply it equally dear boy...

____

Visionary George Monbiot's road map for a global democratic revolution. George Monbiot is known to millions for his newspaper commentaries, which are widely circulated on the Internet. Monbiot's Manifesto for a New World Order offers a plan for transforming the world into a decent place for all. All over the planet, the rich get richer while the poor are overtaken by debt and disaster. The world is run by a handful of executives who make the most important of decisions, concerning war, peace, debt, development, and the balance of trade. Without democracy at the global level, the rest of us are left in the dark. George Monbiot shows us how to turn on the light. Emphasizing not only that things ought to change but also revealing how to change them, Monbiot develops an interlocking set of proposals that mark him as the most realistic utopian of our time. With detailed discussions of what a world parliament might look like, how trade can be organized fairly, and how underdeveloped nations can leverage their debt to obtain real change, Manifesto for a New World Order offers a truly global perspective, a defense of democracy, and an understanding of power and how it might be captured from those unfit to retain it.

Manifesto for a New World Order - Google Books


A champion of not owning cars, Monbiot actually owns a car. He once described the pro-car lobby as “antisocial bastards” [2] and has blamed cars for ruining children’s lives. “Our children are growing upsocially stunted: instead of playing together they are playing alone on their computers, in part because the only available public spaces have gone.” [3]

Monbiot drives a Renault Clio, not the most frugal in fuel consumption or carbon emissions.[citation needed] He bought it from a friend for an undisclosed amount. It emits 115g/km , 10% higher than a Toyota Prius, the petrol-electric hybrid beloved of the green movement. "I’ve had to break a long-time commitment," he explained, "but the only way to get by, we decided, was to have the occasional use of a car.” [4]

In his latest book, 'Heat', Monbiot worked out that the coach was the greenest form of travel, in terms of CO2 emissions per person per kilometre. But does Monbiot use it? No. “Coach travel would be slightly better [than the train] but I will be damned if I’m going round the country in the current system,” he says. “If you’ve got loads of time and very little money -- if you’re unemployed, say -- the coach is the way to go. But if you need to get anywhere that day, it’s unusable."

Monbiot admits to being “a terrible boy racer” in his youth, tearing up country roads in his first car, a Renault 8. “I should have been banned,” he says. “I didn’t have enough sense at the wheel.” Now Monbiot has begun campaigning to have speed cameras installed in Machynlleth in west Wales where he lives, citing “problems with boy racers”. [5]

Monbiot has stated that air travel is unacceptable. "Global warming means that flying across the Atlantic is now as unacceptable as child abuse," he wrote in a 1999 article. [6] Yet he himself traveled an undisclosed amount of transatlantic air miles to promote his book "Heat - How to stop the planet burning," a book which highlights the unacceptability of transatlantic travel. Monbiot also believes that self-enforced abstinence is a waste of time: “Why bother installing an energy-efficient lightbulb when a man in Lanarkshire boasts of attaching 1.2 million Christmas lights to his house?”


George Monbiot - SourceWatch

Sorry Chris, you were schooled yet again...

Can't change what you did pard - you turned to a global utopian as an expert on this issue - that is how little you actually know of what you are saying...

 

[Chris]

Sinatra, give it up.

All you have is a "former architect" vs every major scientific society on the earth.

You lose.

 

[Sinatra]

Now Chris is enamored of the global new world order utopian Monbiot to support his flat earth warmer feelings? If you wish to utilize the paint of self interest, you best apply it equally dear boy...

____

Visionary George Monbiot's road map for a global democratic revolution. George Monbiot is known to millions for his newspaper commentaries, which are widely circulated on the Internet. Monbiot's Manifesto for a New World Order offers a plan for transforming the world into a decent place for all. All over the planet, the rich get richer while the poor are overtaken by debt and disaster. The world is run by a handful of executives who make the most important of decisions, concerning war, peace, debt, development, and the balance of trade. Without democracy at the global level, the rest of us are left in the dark. George Monbiot shows us how to turn on the light. Emphasizing not only that things ought to change but also revealing how to change them, Monbiot develops an interlocking set of proposals that mark him as the most realistic utopian of our time. With detailed discussions of what a world parliament might look like, how trade can be organized fairly, and how underdeveloped nations can leverage their debt to obtain real change, Manifesto for a New World Order offers a truly global perspective, a defense of democracy, and an understanding of power and how it might be captured from those unfit to retain it.

Manifesto for a New World Order - Google Books


A champion of not owning cars, Monbiot actually owns a car. He once described the pro-car lobby as “antisocial bastards” [2] and has blamed cars for ruining children’s lives. “Our children are growing upsocially stunted: instead of playing together they are playing alone on their computers, in part because the only available public spaces have gone.” [3]

Monbiot drives a Renault Clio, not the most frugal in fuel consumption or carbon emissions.[citation needed] He bought it from a friend for an undisclosed amount. It emits 115g/km , 10% higher than a Toyota Prius, the petrol-electric hybrid beloved of the green movement. "I’ve had to break a long-time commitment," he explained, "but the only way to get by, we decided, was to have the occasional use of a car.” [4]

In his latest book, 'Heat', Monbiot worked out that the coach was the greenest form of travel, in terms of CO2 emissions per person per kilometre. But does Monbiot use it? No. “Coach travel would be slightly better [than the train] but I will be damned if I’m going round the country in the current system,” he says. “If you’ve got loads of time and very little money -- if you’re unemployed, say -- the coach is the way to go. But if you need to get anywhere that day, it’s unusable."

Monbiot admits to being “a terrible boy racer” in his youth, tearing up country roads in his first car, a Renault 8. “I should have been banned,” he says. “I didn’t have enough sense at the wheel.” Now Monbiot has begun campaigning to have speed cameras installed in Machynlleth in west Wales where he lives, citing “problems with boy racers”. [5]

Monbiot has stated that air travel is unacceptable. "Global warming means that flying across the Atlantic is now as unacceptable as child abuse," he wrote in a 1999 article. [6] Yet he himself traveled an undisclosed amount of transatlantic air miles to promote his book "Heat - How to stop the planet burning," a book which highlights the unacceptability of transatlantic travel. Monbiot also believes that self-enforced abstinence is a waste of time: “Why bother installing an energy-efficient lightbulb when a man in Lanarkshire boasts of attaching 1.2 million Christmas lights to his house?”


George Monbiot - SourceWatch

Sorry Chris, you were schooled yet again...

,,,

 

[Chris]

Sinatra, give it up.

All you have is a "former architect" vs every major scientific society on the earth.

You lose.

 

[Sinatra]

Despite the Al-Gore-Kool-Aid-drinkers’ best efforts to suppress it, the Climategate scandal continues to blossom and flourish. (Or should that be putresce and pullulate?)

I think my favourite comic detail this week just has to be the one about the amazing not-so-fast-shrinking glaciers. As you’ll know if you’ve been reading reports like this scare stories about glaciers retreating “faster than predicted” are a central plank of the IPCC’s case that we should carbon-tax ourselves back to the Dark Ages NOW. According to the IPCC, the Himalayan glaciers could be gone by 2035.

Or should that be 2350? Yep it seems those scientific experts who make the IPCC’s reports so famously reliable and trustworthy have a bad case of numerical dyslexia. The mistake was spotted by a Canadian academic:

J Graham Cogley, a professor at Ontario Trent University, says he believes the UN authors got the date from an earlier report wrong by more than 300 years.

He is astonished they “misread 2350 as 2035″.

In its 2007 report, the Nobel Prize-winning Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said: “Glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate.

“Its total area will likely shrink from the present 500,000 to 100,000 square kilometres by the year 2035,” the report said.

It suggested three quarters of a billion people who depend on glacier melt for water supplies in Asia could be affected.

But Professor Cogley has found a 1996 document by a leading hydrologist, VM Kotlyakov, that mentions 2350 as the year by which there will be massive and precipitate melting of glaciers.

“The extrapolar glaciation of the Earth will be decaying at rapid, catastrophic rates – its total area will shrink from 500,000 to 100,000 square kilometres by the year 2350,” Mr Kotlyakov’s report said.

Mr Cogley says it is astonishing that none of the 10 authors of the 2007 IPCC report could spot the error and “misread 2350 as 2035″.

“I do suggest that the glaciological community might consider advising the IPCC about ways to avoid such egregious errors as the 2035 versus 2350 confusion in the future,” says Mr Cogley.


Climategate: another smoking gun… – Telegraph Blogs