Old Rocks
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Remarkable bullshit.
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All Those Growing Glaciers...
- Thread starter Sinatra
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Remarkable bullshit.
- Thread starter
- #42
Remarkable bullshit.
Both you and Chris have become increasingly angry regarding this topic...
Guess what pal, the summers are milder. It's not nearly as hot or as cold as it used to be here.
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Ah - you're utilizing the now oft-repeated "If it's warmer it's global warming. If it's cooler, it's global warming!"
Keep talking pard - your own words expose the degree of your ignorance with each post...
I live by the ocean. More water vapor in the air makes the weather milder.
You don't know much about climate, do you?
- Thread starter
- #44
I live by the ocean. More water vapor in the air makes the weather milder.
You don't know much about climate, do you?
Keep talking pard!!!!
- Thread starter
- #45
His failings have become epic!!!
He cites an op-ed based on the remarks of one of the most vocal global warmist alarmists in the world as evidence that glaciers are not actually expanding all over the globe?
Monbiot is now turning on some within the very same global warming community he comes from in the hopes of saving his own alarmist skin.
Chris has surpassed Bobo as the single greatest idiot within this forum - a truly ignorant knuckle-dragging flat-earth warmer...
Thanks for making this so fun....Sinatra. And thanks again from proving my point the other day that the winters here are warmer than they were in 1985.
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Oh, let's look even more closely at those Norfolk numbers now - since you are still clinging to hope that it has gotten sooooo much warmer than it once was. Now let's look at
year-to-year median temperature shall we?
2008 = 61 degrees
2004-2005 = 61 degrees
2000-2001 = 59 degrees
1994-1995 = 62 degrees
1990-1991 = 63 degrees (Norfolk 2 degrees cooler last year)
1984-1985 = 61 degrees (the era of your "cold winters" no colder than last year...)
1980-1981 = 59 degrees (Brrrrr!!!!)
1974-1975 = 61 degrees
1970-1971 = 60 degrees
1964-1965 = 61 degrees
1960-1961 = 61 degrees (Temps last year the same as 40 years ago...)
1954-1955 = 62 degrees (It was warmer 50 years ago?? Global Warming huh???)
1950-1951 = 60 degrees
1948-1949 = 62 degrees (This is as far back as weatherunderground stats go)
So what we have here dear boy, is a DECLINE in year-to-year temps in 2008 from Norfolk Virginia temps of 60 YEARS AGO. Overall, the temps have been relatively stable year-to-year, depending on severity of winters or summer months - in spite of your much-loved
CO2 emissions.
This is the temperature data of your own backyard Chris. You don't even know that history, do you? You make your silly observational inputs regarding the "cold" winters of 25 years ago without realizing the year-to-year data shows the actual temps to be very similar to those of today.
In short, no drastic "global warming" issues for Norfolk Virginia.
Better luck next time...
Old Rocks
Diamond Member
Glacier Bay National Park -- National Geographic
When Capt. George Vancouver sailed the Alaska coast in 1794, Glacier Bay did not exist. It lay beneath a sheet of glacial ice several miles wide and thousands of feet thick. Since then, in one of the fastest glacial retreats on record, the ice has shrunk back 65 miles to unveil new land and a new bay, now returning to life after a long winter's sleep.
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Glacier Bay National Park Scientists call Glacier Bay a living laboratory for the grand processes of glacial retreat, plant succession, and animal dynamics. It is an open book on the last ice age. At the southern end, where the ice departed 200 years ago, a spruce-hemlock rain forest has taken root. Farther north, the more recently deglaciated land becomes rugged and thinly vegetated.
The bay branches into two major arms, the west arm and Muir Inlet, which themselves branch into smaller inlets. There, on slopes deglaciated 50 to 100 years ago, alder and willow grow, while mosses, mountain avens, and dwarf fireweed pioneer areas exposed within 30 years
When Capt. George Vancouver sailed the Alaska coast in 1794, Glacier Bay did not exist. It lay beneath a sheet of glacial ice several miles wide and thousands of feet thick. Since then, in one of the fastest glacial retreats on record, the ice has shrunk back 65 miles to unveil new land and a new bay, now returning to life after a long winter's sleep.
This Article Is From
Guide to the National Parks—Just Published
The most comprehensive, up-to-the-minute book of its kind Buy NowOfficial Web Site
Glacier Bay National Park Scientists call Glacier Bay a living laboratory for the grand processes of glacial retreat, plant succession, and animal dynamics. It is an open book on the last ice age. At the southern end, where the ice departed 200 years ago, a spruce-hemlock rain forest has taken root. Farther north, the more recently deglaciated land becomes rugged and thinly vegetated.
The bay branches into two major arms, the west arm and Muir Inlet, which themselves branch into smaller inlets. There, on slopes deglaciated 50 to 100 years ago, alder and willow grow, while mosses, mountain avens, and dwarf fireweed pioneer areas exposed within 30 years
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- #47
One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking « Apostle Islands Navigator
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking « Apostle Islands Navigator
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- #48
One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
arctic ice growing 2009 - Google Search
But Mann, Jones, and uncle Al disagree!!
Old Rocks
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No More Glaciers in Glacier National Park by 2020?
Anne Minard
National Geographic News
March 2, 2009
<!--- startbody --->It's an oft-repeated statistic that the glaciers at Montana's Glacier National Park will disappear by the year 2030.
But Daniel Fagre, a U.S. Geological Survey ecologist who works at Glacier, says the park's namesakes will be gone about ten years ahead of schedule, endangering the region's plants and animals.<!--- deckend --->
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The 2030 date, he said, was based on a 2003 USGS study, along with 1992 temperature predictions by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
"Temperature rise in our area was twice as great as what we put into the [1992] model," Fagre said. "What we've been saying now is 2020."
The 2020 estimate is based on aerial surveys and photography Fagre and his team have been conducting at Glacier since the early 1980s. A more standardized measure of what's happening to a glacier comes from arduous documentation of its mass, which requires—among other techniques—multiple core samples.
Fagre said
Anne Minard
National Geographic News
March 2, 2009
<!--- startbody --->It's an oft-repeated statistic that the glaciers at Montana's Glacier National Park will disappear by the year 2030.
But Daniel Fagre, a U.S. Geological Survey ecologist who works at Glacier, says the park's namesakes will be gone about ten years ahead of schedule, endangering the region's plants and animals.<!--- deckend --->
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The 2030 date, he said, was based on a 2003 USGS study, along with 1992 temperature predictions by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
"Temperature rise in our area was twice as great as what we put into the [1992] model," Fagre said. "What we've been saying now is 2020."
The 2020 estimate is based on aerial surveys and photography Fagre and his team have been conducting at Glacier since the early 1980s. A more standardized measure of what's happening to a glacier comes from arduous documentation of its mass, which requires—among other techniques—multiple core samples.
Fagre said
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Old Rocks
Diamond Member
One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking « Apostle Islands Navigator
Dooodeee...... baby, this is utter bullshit. Those links are complete lies. But what else are we to expect from you.
Refutation of such bullshit on one link;
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis
Old Rocks
Diamond Member
One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
arctic ice growing 2009 - Google Search
But Mann, Jones, and uncle Al disagree!!
But you are such a total ignoramous.
Old Rocks
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Alps Glaciers Gone by 2050, Expert Says
John Roach
for National Geographic News
January 23, 2007
<!--- startbody --->Glaciers are quickly disappearing from the Alps and will be all but gone by 2050, a climate expert said Monday. That's 50 years earlier than a July 2006 study predicted.
The loss would change the supply of drinking and irrigation water, lead to more falling rocks, and cripple the European ski industry.<!--- deckend --->
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On average about 3 percent of Alpine glacial ice is lost each year, said Roland Psenner, a fresh water scientist at the University of Innsbruck in Austria. That corresponds to about 3.3 feet (1 meter) of ice thickness.
John Roach
for National Geographic News
January 23, 2007
<!--- startbody --->Glaciers are quickly disappearing from the Alps and will be all but gone by 2050, a climate expert said Monday. That's 50 years earlier than a July 2006 study predicted.
The loss would change the supply of drinking and irrigation water, lead to more falling rocks, and cripple the European ski industry.<!--- deckend --->
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Some Glaciers Growing Due to Climate Change, Study Suggests (September 11, 2006)
Map: Melting Alps
Himalaya Ice Threat Monitored in Nepal (March 10, 2006)
On average about 3 percent of Alpine glacial ice is lost each year, said Roland Psenner, a fresh water scientist at the University of Innsbruck in Austria. That corresponds to about 3.3 feet (1 meter) of ice thickness.
Old Rocks
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Himalaya Ice-Melt Threat Monitored in Nepal
James Owen
for National Geographic News
March 10, 2006
<!--- startbody --->The Khumbu Glacier on Mount Everest has retreated more than three miles (five kilometers) from the time when Edmund Hillary and Tensing Norgay famously set out to conquer the world's highest peak in 1953.
Scientists have documented a similar trend in glaciers throughout the Himalaya, the mountain range that houses Mount Everest. <!--- deckend --->
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Greenland Glaciers Losing Ice Much Faster, Study Says
The range, which spans several Asian nations, is known as the Water Tower of Asia, since billions of people depend on its life-bringing flows.
But scientists fear that these water supplies could eventually dry up as the glaciers melt due to global warming.
James Owen
for National Geographic News
March 10, 2006
<!--- startbody --->The Khumbu Glacier on Mount Everest has retreated more than three miles (five kilometers) from the time when Edmund Hillary and Tensing Norgay famously set out to conquer the world's highest peak in 1953.
Scientists have documented a similar trend in glaciers throughout the Himalaya, the mountain range that houses Mount Everest. <!--- deckend --->
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Trekking Nepal: A National Geographic Expedition
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Greenland Glaciers Losing Ice Much Faster, Study Says
The range, which spans several Asian nations, is known as the Water Tower of Asia, since billions of people depend on its life-bringing flows.
But scientists fear that these water supplies could eventually dry up as the glaciers melt due to global warming.
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And you are a total fraud.One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
arctic ice growing 2009 - Google Search
But Mann, Jones, and uncle Al disagree!!
But you are such a total ignoramous.
Old Rocks
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Greenland Glaciers Losing Ice Much Faster, Study Says
John Roach
for National Geographic News
February 16, 2006
<!--- startbody --->Due to global warming, glaciers on Greenland are slipping into the ocean twice as fast as they were just five years ago, scientists announced today.
Current estimates already suggest that Greenland (map) is contributing to rising seas. Now it seems that those estimates may have underestimated the melting island's effect, says Eric Rignot, a glaciologist with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena.<!--- deckend --->
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Warming surface temperatures in Greenland are allowing more meltwater to trickle down to the glacier bed. There, where glacier meets earth, the water acts as a lubricant, allowing the ice to flow more quickly to the ocean.
John Roach
for National Geographic News
February 16, 2006
<!--- startbody --->Due to global warming, glaciers on Greenland are slipping into the ocean twice as fast as they were just five years ago, scientists announced today.
Current estimates already suggest that Greenland (map) is contributing to rising seas. Now it seems that those estimates may have underestimated the melting island's effect, says Eric Rignot, a glaciologist with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena.<!--- deckend --->
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Warming surface temperatures in Greenland are allowing more meltwater to trickle down to the glacier bed. There, where glacier meets earth, the water acts as a lubricant, allowing the ice to flow more quickly to the ocean.
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- #57
Whatever, old hack.One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking « Apostle Islands Navigator
Dooodeee...... baby, this is utter bullshit. Those links are complete lies. But what else are we to expect from you.
Refutation of such bullshit on one link;
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis
Old Rocks
Diamond Member
Whatever, old hack.One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking « Apostle Islands Navigator
Dooodeee...... baby, this is utter bullshit. Those links are complete lies. But what else are we to expect from you.
Refutation of such bullshit on one link;
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis
Surely whatever, you post trash, and get your ass kicked.
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- #59
One place is not the whole world.
In case you missed it, the ice packs at the north and south poles of the Earf are growing.
Growing Arctic Ice Sheets Threaten Growing Polar Bear Populations
Arctic Ice*Growing - ECO News - ECO-CAN.ca
Revealed: Antarctic ice growing, not shrinking | The Australian
arctic ice growing 2009 - Google Search
But Mann, Jones, and uncle Al disagree!!
But you are such a total ignoramous.
I'm not the one quoting fraudulent scientists as proof, now am I rocks in the head?
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- #60
I'm not getting anything kicked, you dried up old cargo cultist.Whatever, old hack.Dooodeee...... baby, this is utter bullshit. Those links are complete lies. But what else are we to expect from you.
Refutation of such bullshit on one link;
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis
Surely whatever, you post trash, and get your ass kicked.
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