All Those Growing Glaciers...

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    A website backed by the Hearthland Institute which is funded by the oil companies.

    What a coincidink!
     
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    *GASP*

    How DARE energy producers acquire expert counsel and research, to keep hordes of commie hooligans from destroying their businesses!!

    Oh, the scandal!! :rolleyes:
     
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    Glacier National Park...

    During the middle of the 20th century, examination of the maps and photographs from the previous century provided clear evidence that the 150 glaciers known to have existed in the park a hundred years earlier had greatly retreated, and in many cases disappeared altogether.[21] Repeat photography of the glaciers, such as the pictures taken of Grinnell Glacier between 1938 and 2005 as shown, help to provide visual confirmation of the extent of glacier retreat.

    In the 1980s, the U.S. Geological Survey began a more systematic study of the remaining glaciers, which continues to the present day. By 2005, only 27 glaciers remained, and scientists generally agree that if the current global warming continues, all the glaciers in the park will be gone by 2030.[21] This glacier retreat follows a worldwide pattern that has accelerated even more since 1980. The extensive glacier retreat that has been observed in Glacier National Park, as well as in other regions worldwide, is a key indicator of climatic changes on a worldwide scale. Without a major climatic change in which cooler and moister weather returns and persists, the mass balance (accumulation rate versus melting rate) of glaciers will continue to be negative and the glaciers will eventually disappear, leaving behind only barren rock.[21]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_National_Park_(U.S.)
     
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    ROME, Italy (CNN) -- Melting glaciers in the Alps may prompt Italy and Switzerland to redraw their borders near the Matterhorn, according to parliamentary draft legislation being readied in Rome.

    Glaciers in the Alps near the Matterhorn are receding, forcing the border to be redrawn.
    Franco Narducci of Italy's opposition Democratic Party is preparing a bill to redefine the frontier with neighboring Switzerland, his office said Wednesday.

    Narducci is a member of the foreign affairs panel in Italy's lower Chamber of Deputies. Foreign Minister Franco Frattini has authorized the bill.

    Switzerland also has cooperated with Italy on the matter.

    The Italian Military Geographic Institute says climate change is responsible for the Alpine glaciers melting.

    "This draft law is born out the necessity to revise and verify the frontiers given the changes in climate and atmosphere," Narducci said. "The 1941 convention between Italy and Switzerland established as criteria [for border revisions] the ridge [crest] of the glaciers. Following the withdrawal of the glaciers in the Alps, a new criterion has been proposed so that the new border coincides with the rock."

    Melting glaciers force Italy, Swiss to redraw border - CNN.com
     
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    XINING, Feb. 4 (Xinhua) -- Chinese scientists said Wednesday glaciers that serve as water sources on the Qinghai-Tibet plateau are melting at a "worrisome speed," having receded 196 square km over the past nearly 40 years.

    The decline is equal to about one-fourth of the area of New York City.

    Xin Yuanhong, senior engineer in charge of a three-year field study of glaciers in the region, said glaciers at the headwaters of the Yangtze, China's longest river, cover 1,051 square km, down from 1,247 square km in 1971.

    "The reduction means more than 989 million cubic meters of water melted away," said Xin, whose team surveyed the glaciers between June 2005 and August 2008. That much water would fill Beijing's largest reservoir.

    The team was composed of experts from the Qinghai Provincial Geological Research Institute and the Beijing-based China University of Geosciences.

    Melting glaciers on China's Qinghai-Tibet plateau water source "worrisome"_English_Xinhua
     
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    Mt. Everest...

    I was genuinely shocked by how far the glaciers have retreated. As we stood on the side of Lake Imja you could see the end of the glacier falling into the lake.

    I just couldn't get over the power of the warming and the sheer force of Nature to change a landscape so dramatically.

    You can talk of a o.1 degree rise in temperature here or a few millimetre rise in sea level and it seems tiny.

    But when you see pictures of the Himalayas thirty years ago and then stand in that same landscape and see how different it is, it brings home just how fast and immense the change can be.

    When you have seen the melting at Everest it's very hard to understand anyone who says warming is not happening.

    Are they on the same planet?

    Melting of Everest shows power of warming - Science and Health Blog - Mirror.co.uk
     
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    lol. They're using a modification in the gulf stream to make a point for global cooling?

    Guess a lack of volcanic eruptions and lava flow will do that to ice on a mountain.

    It is a little weak.

    Hey, can we get a quote from a fictional character from a Michael Chrichton book?
     

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