All these Obama is crushing it or running away with it/whatcha smokin?

[Dick Tuck]

Odds makers don't pick our presidents. As it is it appears independents will.

More a question of ground game and turnout. The Obama machine has been crushing the GOP there.

Then why is Obama losing most of the states based on early voting?

He's not. You're a fucking moron.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Prior to the debates they couldn't wait to post the latest polls. Now the dismiss them and post blogs and odds makers.

Polls still show Obama with 290 Electoral Votes

Once rassmussen drops out, Obama will win with 300+

You beat me to the daily Grumps bitch-slap-o-rama!

Everyone in this thread has posted a rational adult response but YOU.

 

[AceRothstein]

What all these polls have in common is that they "re-adjusted" their weightings they assign to decided Democrat voter turnout based on the last election, while the other polls are using party specific voter turnout based on an average for the past 4 elections.

No matter how many times you righties parrot this talking point doesn't mean it is going to come true. Pollsters don't adjust their results based on prior election turnout. It just doesn't happen.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

More a question of ground game and turnout. The Obama machine has been crushing the GOP there.

Then why is Obama losing most of the states based on early voting?

He's not. You're a fucking moron.

Washington Post

Romney holds a seven-point edge among early voters (50% to 43%)

 

[AceRothstein]

Then why is Obama losing most of the states based on early voting?

He's not. You're a fucking moron.

Washington Post

Romney holds a seven-point edge among early voters (50% to 43%)

Which states offer early voting? Which states were the early voters in that were included in the poll being cited? Unless we know this info then it doesn't really matter.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

He's not. You're a fucking moron.

Washington Post

Romney holds a seven-point edge among early voters (50% to 43%)

Which states offer early voting? Which states were the early voters in that were included in the poll being cited? Unless we know this info then it doesn't really matter.

Of course not

 

[AceRothstein]

Washington Post

Romney holds a seven-point edge among early voters (50% to 43%)

Which states offer early voting? Which states were the early voters in that were included in the poll being cited? Unless we know this info then it doesn't really matter.

Of course not

Well, it doesn't matter since the election is state by state and not a national election. Look at the early voting numbers from Ohio polling from the polls that have released this info:

Rasmussen: O - 62, R - 36
Survey USA: O - 56, R - 40
Gravis: O - 63, R - 35
PPP: O - 63, R - 36
Quinnipiac: O - 60, R - 34
Purple Strategies: O - 58, R - 32

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Which states offer early voting? Which states were the early voters in that were included in the poll being cited? Unless we know this info then it doesn't really matter.

Of course not

It actually does matter as the national total is irrelevant. Read the Constitution.

I don't think anyone rational at this point thinks Obama is cruising to an easy victory, but by the same token no one rational is predicting an easy victory for Romney either. The race is simply too tight.

I think Obama has a slight edge in the Electoral College, but things are simply too close to be sure about anything.

 

[Liability]

The only feasible explanation is that the Obamanistas are in "utter desperation" mode.

The fact that Barack Obama even has a CHANCE of winning re-election shows how far the USA has fallen in the areas of intellect, morality, integrity, and personal responsibility.

Prior to the debates they couldn't wait to post the latest polls. Now the dismiss them and post blogs and odds makers.

Polls still show Obama with 290 Electoral Votes

Once rassmussen drops out, Obama will win with 300+

Polls don't show that. They indicate it at present, if you accept them as valid.

Accurate polls would show that The ONE is going to lose.

 

[Dr.House]

Gallop and Pew Research are both reporting large leads for Romney in early voting.

Dems should just stay home.

Libs are ignoring reality....

Fun to watch, though...

 

[Liability]

It has been proven that most of the polls are using flawed methodoligies of past elections. Democrats don't hold a 6 or 9 point lead with electorates anymore. The parties are basically split in the thirties with independents close behind. Romney is leading in nearly every state with early voters and independents aren't your typical early voter, the base is. And the republican base is energized moreso than the dems.

While I believe the race may be close for that very reason Obama has an uphill battle

Romney now has a big ad buy in, of all places, Minnesnowta....A waste of money if their internals mirror anyone else's poll numbers, that have him behind by 5 points or more.

Real world evidence seems to be flying in the face of the polls.

Bumped with a little high-lightin' just because libs tend to get all frantic when logic exposes the flaws in their so-called "thinkin'."

 

[Oddball]

Gallop and Pew Research are both reporting large leads for Romney in early voting.

Dems should just stay home.

What they're reporting is (most likely) the political affiliation of those voting early not the results themselves, which won't be available unto after the polls close Tuesday evening.

 

[Dr.House]

Which states offer early voting? Which states were the early voters in that were included in the poll being cited? Unless we know this info then it doesn't really matter.

Of course not

Well, it doesn't matter since the election is state by state and not a national election. Look at the early voting numbers from Ohio polling from the polls that have released this info:

Rasmussen: O - 62, R - 36
Survey USA: O - 56, R - 40
Gravis: O - 63, R - 35
PPP: O - 63, R - 36
Quinnipiac: O - 60, R - 34
Purple Strategies: O - 58, R - 32

Actually, what matters even more is the precincts where EV is coming from... When less support comes in from heavy D counties and more support comes in from heavy R counties (comparing 2008 numbers to 2012 numbers), that does not bode well for your Hero Zero...

Saying 0bama is ahead percentage wise is meaningless without looking further... In Ohio, D's always come out for early voting, while R's tend to dominate on election day... If Barry can't do as well with EV as he did in 2008 then the race is over early...

 

[mamooth]

Back in the real world, which terrifies our conservative friends into incontinence (why else would they keep running from it?), we can check the poll aggregators and betting sites, 11/1/2012. Yesterday was a good polling day for Obama, so he made gains just about everywhere.

RCP O290-R248
RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map No Toss Ups

Pollster.com O277-R206
Pollster: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News

Five-thirty-eight.com (Nate Silver) O300.4-R237.6 (79.0%)
Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com

Princeton Election consortium O308-R230 (95%)
http://election.princeton.edu/

Election Analytics O294.4-R243.6
Presidential Election 2012 | University of Illinois

InTrade O303-R235 68%
2012 Electoral Map - The Intrade Forecast 11/1/2012
Intrade - Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012

BetFair O 1.33-1 (75%)
2012 Presidential Election - Next President bet | US Politics odds | betfair.com

Electoral Vote O299-R206
ElectoralVote

270 to Win O281-R257
America's Electoral Map: A 2012 Election Forecast

Votamatic O332-R206
VOTAMATIC | Forecasts and Polling Analysis for the 2012 Presidential Election

 

[Nova78]

All these Obama is crushing it or running away with it/whatcha smokin?


Kool-aid snorting Demwits.....

 

[Article 15]

Well done, indeed.

 

[rightwinger]

According to the BBC (which collates polls across the US and uses academically solid methodology to calculate)... it's a dead heat - 49% each.

No wonder she dropped off the board

 

[rightwinger]

Of course not

Well, it doesn't matter since the election is state by state and not a national election. Look at the early voting numbers from Ohio polling from the polls that have released this info:

Rasmussen: O - 62, R - 36
Survey USA: O - 56, R - 40
Gravis: O - 63, R - 35
PPP: O - 63, R - 36
Quinnipiac: O - 60, R - 34
Purple Strategies: O - 58, R - 32

Actually, what matters even more is the precincts where EV is coming from... When less support comes in from heavy D counties and more support comes in from heavy R counties (comparing 2008 numbers to 2012 numbers), that does not bode well for your Hero Zero...

Saying 0bama is ahead percentage wise is meaningless without looking further... In Ohio, D's always come out for early voting, while R's tend to dominate on election day... If Barry can't do as well with EV as he did in 2008 then the race is over early...

No wonder he dropped off the board

 

[jillian]

All these Obama is crushing it or running away with it/whatcha smokin?


Kool-aid snorting Demwits.....View attachment 22217

you still laughing, psychoboy?

 

[rightwinger]

Prior to the debates they couldn't wait to post the latest polls. Now the dismiss them and post blogs and odds makers.

Polls still show Obama with 290 Electoral Votes

Once rassmussen drops out, Obama will win with 300+

Polls don't show that. They indicate it at present, if you accept them as valid.

Accurate polls would show that The ONE is going to lose.

No wonder he dropped off the board