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[Intense]

Wisconsin Power Play​

In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others. Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case of Mr. Walker). On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most important of these institutions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/opinion/21krugman.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Horse Shit.

In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others.

In Principle Each has a Right to His or Her Perspective and Voice. What takes Root is between You and the Powers that be. There is nothing Equal about it, there never has been.

Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case of Mr. Walker).

So what. So do Business, Labor, Political Group's, Charities, It is called Free Will, it is also a Free Speech Issue., Left, Center, or Right.

On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of wealthy people dominate.

We are a One Person One Vote Nation, when People don't cheat. We have been fighting the Oligarchy/Plutocracy since the day's of Alexander Hamilton. Government and Business don't mix. The handful of Puppet Masters are pulling strings that both of us are blind to. It is absurd to assume even the Church, or Labor Union's are beyond their influence and control. The choice to Serve Conscience or Man is Individual, not collective, one leaves you grabbing your ankles.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most important of these institutions.

Given this false notion, it is important to apply an honest weight in all agreements, it is not Power that is the enemy to civility and fair play, but Injustice. There is no honorable substitute for "Value for Value". Union's are no closer to the truth than Anyone or Anything else. What you know to be fair Play, establish into the Labor Law's of Each State, of the Nation Itself, when enough support is gained. Union's today, more represent the New Privileged Class, who stole so much from the Middle Class, they Bankrupted it and Displaced it through Mandate. "We are living the Sequel to "We The Living". You support the Privilege of the Prima Donna Class, on the backs of the Working Poor, whom you exploit every way you can.

 

[Leweman]

The lefties in government buys itself more votes spending American Tax dollars then any Corporation could afford.

Is that supposed to be English?

Haha. Yeah sort of. Not the greatest but you get my point. I don't do a good job grammatically correcting myself on this board.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The lefties in government buys itself more votes spending American Tax dollars then any Corporation could afford.

Indeed.

Methinks your English teachers were non-union.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I can't believe all of the working class rightwingers on this forum appear to think they're somehow going to exempted from the effects of turning over more and more power to the corporate/ownership/employer interests.

They'll come for you, too, friends.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

The lefties in government buys itself more votes spending American Tax dollars then any Corporation could afford.

Uh, okie dokie.

Rush must've been high again that day.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

I can't believe all of the working class rightwingers on this forum appear to think they're somehow going to exempted from the effects of turning over more and more power to the corporate/ownership/employer interests.

They'll come for you, too, friends.

That's the recurring irony of this whole discussion. These low-wage, low-rent wingers just LOVE to slit their own throats. Have no idea they're being played like a honky tonk piano.

 

[Stephanie]

Ah, so now we are "low rent-low wage wingers" who don't know what's in OUR BEST INTEREST.



how bout that one folks.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Boy, Droopy Nutsack is on an unhinged tear!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Ah, so now we are "low rent-low wage wingers" who don't know what's in OUR BEST INTEREST.

how bout that one folks.

Typical.. Droopy Nutsack is one of those who look to da gubmint to solve all their problems.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

Ah, so now we are "low rent-low wage wingers" who don't know what's in OUR BEST INTEREST.

That's what I just posted.

You're brilliant.

 

[Flopper]

I can't believe all of the working class rightwingers on this forum appear to think they're somehow going to exempted from the effects of turning over more and more power to the corporate/ownership/employer interests.

They'll come for you, too, friends.

Left-wing or Right-wing, it doesn't matter. Our wings are going to get clicked badly if we continue to allow big corporations and special interest groups to run the country. This is not a conservative or liberal issue. It's an issue of who controls the country. The only way to stop it is with a constitution amendment.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

Ah, so now we are "low rent-low wage wingers" who don't know what's in OUR BEST INTEREST.

how bout that one folks.

Typical.. Droopy Nutsack is one of those who look to da gubmint to solve all their problems.

You're a brainwashed moron, Saggy.

 

[WillowTree]

Ah, so now we are "low rent-low wage wingers" who don't know what's in OUR BEST INTEREST.



how bout that one folks.

liberuls think they shit don't stink, they smart, the rest of us are rednecks and dumb as dirt.. just smile and nod at them.

 

[Stephanie]

Ah, so now we are "low rent-low wage wingers" who don't know what's in OUR BEST INTEREST.



how bout that one folks.

liberuls think they shit don't stink, they smart, the rest of us are rednecks and dumb as dirt.. just smile and nod at them.

yeah..it's pretty funny

 

[georgephillip]

Wisconsin Power Play​

In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others. Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case of Mr. Walker). On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most important of these institutions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/opinion/21krugman.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

More from Krugman:

"For what’s happening in Wisconsin isn’t about the state budget, despite Mr. Walker’s pretense that he’s just trying to be fiscally responsible.

"It is, instead, about power.

"What Mr. Walker and his backers are trying to do is to make Wisconsin — and eventually, America — less of a functioning democracy and more of a third-world-style oligarchy.

"And that’s why anyone who believes that we need some counterweight to the political power of big money should be on the demonstrators’ side."

Krugman finishes by writing of the bitter irony of those who pushed for the financial deregulation which brought about the economic crisis of 2008-09 now calling for shared sacrifice in Wisconsin.

We should all be pushing for the criminal prosecutions of the parasites on Wall Street and in Washington responsible for our Great Recession.

Wisconsin Power...

 

[Stephanie]

"What Mr. Walker and his backers are trying to do is to make Wisconsin — and eventually, America — less of a functioning democracy and more of a third-world-style oligarchy.

my goodness... Krugman needs to be put in a nut house. He has lost his idiot mind..

I can't believe even the NYslimes would run that crap. but then again it is the SLIMES.

 

[Charles_Main]

Wisconsin Power Play​

In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others. Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case of Mr. Walker). On paper, we’re a one-person-one-vote nation; in reality, we’re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it’s important to have institutions that can act as counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most important of these institutions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/opinion/21krugman.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

You are such a delusion moron dude.

Cooperate water carrying? There are no cooperation's involved in the dispute in WIS.

It is between A union and the Government.

the Tax payers of Wis Elected Walker to balance the Budget. I am sorry you find Democracy so annoying.

 

[Charles_Main]

"What Mr. Walker and his backers are trying to do is to make Wisconsin — and eventually, America — less of a functioning democracy and more of a third-world-style oligarchy.

Funny he talking about Democracy. It is the Union and their Democrat supporters who are standing in the way of Democracy.

 

[Dot Com]

We should all be pushing for the criminal prosecutions of the parasites on Wall Street and in Washington responsible for our Great Recession.

Wisconsin Power...

I agree but the perps are the same people who bankroll candidates. We need REAL campaign finance reform so there can't be retaliation and everyone is equal in the eyes of the law. The way things are now, they'd be jailing their masters.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Let's just get rid of anything that works for the people and give all the labor AND political power to corporations because they will really look out or us. Republicans seem to have Stockholm syndrome. Loving those that fight against them.