All taxes should go up!!

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    America needs to realize that nothing is for free. Our deficit is over a trillion dollars and congress/the President have no plan to reduce it anytime soon.

    We need to pay the piper. If the American people are unwilling to accept the fact that the government has NO responsibility (nor do they have the means) to provide for our retirement, our food, our housing, our jobs, our education, our medical care, etc....then we need to pony up and pay for it.
    Nothing is free....so until Americans feel the pain of taxes to pay for these programs, nothing will change.

    Using simple math...all taxes should double. And what ever is left over should pay off the debt.

    Thoughts
     
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    No, the spendaholic politicians need to understand that nothing is free and they can quit coming up with crap and sending the bill to the workers.

    They still send billions in aid to countries, some of which are hostile towards us. Obama's stimulus went to build green companies overseas. Gee, like we don't need jobs. They practically invite millions more illegal aliens so we can spend billions more on them.

    Maybe those who decide at an early age that they can rely on gubmint instead of preparing for their own future should be taught that nothing is free. Maybe all those who believe that they will get "free" healthcare, thanks to Obama'uncaring' should realize that somebody somewhere will bear the cost.

    We've had many, many tax increases and Obamacare will be the biggest ever. The debt will not go down no matter how much money these incompetent boobs confiscate. If they take more money, they will spend more.

    Do you believe Obama seriously wants to make job-friendly policies, help the economy and pay down the debt? He hasn't shown the slightest interest in any of that and has consistently done just the opposite. He taught Alinsky's methods as a professor. If he believes what he taught, he's right on track and instead of hitting the brakes, expect him to hit the accelerator.
     
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    Then we should pay more. The people of this country are not willing to cut spending. They told us that the last election. So it is not going to happen until the people want it to.

    We either pay now or cut spend dramatically. Or we pay for in the future when the dollar is destroyed and there will be no money at all.

    Not doing either is not helping anything...just push off the pain on our children and making it worst.
     
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    We either pay now or cut spend dramatically.

    Choice number 2.
     
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    Our community organizer in chief is using the Cloward and Pivin strategy to over load and collapse the system under it own weight. Of course he plans to be there to rebuild the country into his vision of utopia. Welcome to the United Socialist State of America, for the government, by the government.
     
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    *yawn*

    i love how you guys can't even call him the president.

    it's hysterical.
     
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    Ever thought we might be waiting for him to act like one, instead of a perpetual campaigner?
     
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    My point is that the people need to demand change in order for it to happen. Over 70% of the population don't want to change or don't care, 30% do.
    The only way anything will change is that the people need to pay the price.

    Of the people, by the people.
     
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    Go home commie.
     
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    What maximum nutballs don't seem to get is if the first $35k to $50k of personal income was tax free AND THOSE LOW INCOME SUBSIDIES ENDED AT THE SAME TIME, there would be a net gain for all taxpayers.

    It is incredibly expensive to tax low income folks for two reasons: the paperwork isn't worth it, and huge numbers get money back they didn't pay in.

    When nutballs come to terms with the need to stop taxing the first X number of dollars of personal income and FORCE fake liberals to stop giving back money that never existed, then maybe an honest dialog can start toward getting control of government spending. For what its worth military spending and corporate welfare/tax breaks cost taxpayers a significant multiple of actual welfare payments to individuals.

    Until then it'll remain the usual clown show of people like Windy Mathews bloviating around Pigboy Limbaugh, and both of them making excuses for the actual and borderline crooks on their side, and so on and so forth. Decent people don't have representation in today's American government.
     
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