all energy comes from the sun.

the bible clearly states that half the energy comes from the sun during the day and the other half comes from the moon since the sun is 'gone' during the night. the bible is scientifically accurate or you hate god
Now, let's not be making a mess when there is no need.
 
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This is a very cool Dad, to make this video for his sons education
 
The energy from our sun is what heats the atmosphere and the surface of the earth. But, were the earth not to have any CO2 in the atmosphere, our oceans would be frozen solid. For the earth does not hold all the energy that it recieves from the sun. The albedo, or reflectivety, of the earth is such that amount of energy recieved from the sun would not keep us at a livable temperature without the GHGs in the atmosphere.

Joseph Fourier first stated this in 1820, Tyndal isolated and measured the absorbtion spectra of the GHGs in the atmosphere in 1858. And Arnnhenius quantified the amount the GHGs absorb, and predicted the rising temperatures due to man's increasing the amounts of the CO2 in the atmosphere in 1896.

The sun is just part of the story.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
 
The CO2 in our atmosphere is such a small amount its contribution is negligable.The world did not obtain an oxygen atmosphere till 1.7 billion years ago. There was a ton of life LONG before that. CO2 in the atmosphere was then (and predominately now) a product of volcanic eruptions. This once again is geology 101. The algae in the oceans used the CO2 to live and expelled O2 which over a period of 2 billion years kept building and building till finally the O2 level was great enough that the world could support more complex life.

Sex was invented around 1 billion years ago and hard parts didn't arrive till around 600 million years ago with the ending of the Pre-Cambrian. And that is another Doctoral floating around....why did all of a sudden critters with shells and bones begin forming around 600 million years ago? What energy crisis occured that drove that evolutionary jump?

What is the point of all of this? Not much, other than to show just how long changes take to occur on this wonderful planet of ours. People allways like to claim that the dinosaurs died out suddenly but no, this in fact is not the case. It took a few million years and they didn't "disappear", they in fact evolved into the birds we see today. In fact the common barnyard chicken is a very close genetic relative of T-Rex.

In no case when looking back in the past are changes sudden. It just doesn't happen that way. There is ample evidence showing that we are in fact still recovering from the Little Ice Age...but don't tell a warmer cultist that. Heavens no! We can't confuse the issue with some actual science...




The energy from our sun is what heats the atmosphere and the surface of the earth. But, were the earth not to have any CO2 in the atmosphere, our oceans would be frozen solid. For the earth does not hold all the energy that it recieves from the sun. The albedo, or reflectivety, of the earth is such that amount of energy recieved from the sun would not keep us at a livable temperature without the GHGs in the atmosphere.

Joseph Fourier first stated this in 1820, Tyndal isolated and measured the absorbtion spectra of the GHGs in the atmosphere in 1858. And Arnnhenius quantified the amount the GHGs absorb, and predicted the rising temperatures due to man's increasing the amounts of the CO2 in the atmosphere in 1896.

The sun is just part of the story.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
 
... The nearest star at 4.4 light years, Alpha Centauri-A (actually not quite as close as Proxima-Centauri), like the sun is a G-class dwarf. It is almost a perfect "brother" star, except that it is 1.5 billion years older. Being a "brother" star means that it is about the same size, and has about the same metallic/elemental content as our sun. This means it is more likely to have the same types of planetary bodies circling it as our own sun has.
More on Solar "Siblings:"

"Like all other stars before it, and all those that will come after it, the Sun was born in a nebula, surrounded by thick, massive clouds of cosmic dust and hydrogen gas. It first ignited some 5 billion years ago, alongside tens to thousands of other stars, all of which must be of similar age and chemical makeup."

Knowledge from a search: "Finding the birthplace of our star could also assist astronomers in answering fundamental questions about the origin of the solar system ... This knowledge could then better inform us in understanding the conditions that eventually led to the appearance of life on Earth billions of years ago. Mysteries related to sudden changes in the planet's climate could also be revealed by studying stars formed from the same nebula as the Sun."

"When compared with other yellow dwarfs, as well as with other objects in this part of the Milky Way, the Sun exhibits an unusually-high concentration of metallic elements. This abnormality has puzzled astronomers for many years, and it's now believed that identifying the star's birthplace could help unravel this enigma as well."

"The main issue plaguing such an effort is the magnitude of the needed search. Recent data on how nebulae function reveal that some stars may be ejected from within their nurseries as if sprayed from a cosmic hose. This means that their formation process is very chaotic, and also implies that our star's siblings may be spread apart over distances exceeding 3,000 light-years."
 
... The nearest star at 4.4 light years, Alpha Centauri-A (actually not quite as close as Proxima-Centauri), like the sun is a G-class dwarf. It is almost a perfect "brother" star, except that it is 1.5 billion years older. Being a "brother" star means that it is about the same size, and has about the same metallic/elemental content as our sun. This means it is more likely to have the same types of planetary bodies circling it as our own sun has.

More on Solar "Siblings" - First Serious Study Looks for the Sun's 'Brothers'

"Like all other stars before it, and all those that will come after it, the Sun was born in a nebula, surrounded by thick, massive clouds of cosmic dust and hydrogen gas. It first ignited some 5 billion years ago, alongside tens to thousands of other stars, all of which must be of similar age and chemical makeup."

Knowledge from a search: "Finding the birthplace of our star could also assist astronomers in answering fundamental questions about the origin of the solar system ... This knowledge could then better inform us in understanding the conditions that eventually led to the appearance of life on Earth billions of years ago. Mysteries related to sudden changes in the planet's climate could also be revealed by studying stars formed from the same nebula as the Sun."

"When compared with other yellow dwarfs, as well as with other objects in this part of the Milky Way, the Sun exhibits an unusually-high concentration of metallic elements. This abnormality has puzzled astronomers for many years, and it's now believed that identifying the star's birthplace could help unravel this enigma as well."

"Recent data on how nebulae function reveal that some stars may be ejected from within their nurseries as if sprayed from a cosmic hose. This means that their formation process is very chaotic, and also implies that our star's siblings may be spread apart over distances exceeding 3,000 light-years."

NASA IMAGE
First-Serious-Study-Looks-for-the-Sun-s-Brothers-2.jpg
 
The CO2 in our atmosphere is such a small amount its contribution is negligable.The world did not obtain an oxygen atmosphere till 1.7 billion years ago. There was a ton of life LONG before that. CO2 in the atmosphere was then (and predominately now) a product of volcanic eruptions. This once again is geology 101. The algae in the oceans used the CO2 to live and expelled O2 which over a period of 2 billion years kept building and building till finally the O2 level was great enough that the world could support more complex life.

Sex was invented around 1 billion years ago and hard parts didn't arrive till around 600 million years ago with the ending of the Pre-Cambrian. And that is another Doctoral floating around....why did all of a sudden critters with shells and bones begin forming around 600 million years ago? What energy crisis occured that drove that evolutionary jump?

What is the point of all of this? Not much, other than to show just how long changes take to occur on this wonderful planet of ours. People allways like to claim that the dinosaurs died out suddenly but no, this in fact is not the case. It took a few million years and they didn't "disappear", they in fact evolved into the birds we see today. In fact the common barnyard chicken is a very close genetic relative of T-Rex.

In no case when looking back in the past are changes sudden. It just doesn't happen that way. There is ample evidence showing that we are in fact still recovering from the Little Ice Age...but don't tell a warmer cultist that. Heavens no! We can't confuse the issue with some actual science...




The energy from our sun is what heats the atmosphere and the surface of the earth. But, were the earth not to have any CO2 in the atmosphere, our oceans would be frozen solid. For the earth does not hold all the energy that it recieves from the sun. The albedo, or reflectivety, of the earth is such that amount of energy recieved from the sun would not keep us at a livable temperature without the GHGs in the atmosphere.

Joseph Fourier first stated this in 1820, Tyndal isolated and measured the absorbtion spectra of the GHGs in the atmosphere in 1858. And Arnnhenius quantified the amount the GHGs absorb, and predicted the rising temperatures due to man's increasing the amounts of the CO2 in the atmosphere in 1896.

The sun is just part of the story.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Yes, Westwall is this fucking stupid. Just because physicists have known and calculated the amount of heat retained by CO2 and other GHGs since 1896 does not affect his rants at all. He just continues to post idiocy.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

The American Institute of Physics site.
 

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