All downhill from here

Whitehall;

A little premature to predict doomsday while using qualifiers like "likely reached" and using "satelite records" which aren't even a literal drop in the geological bucket.

Homo Saps existance of about 200,000 years is hardly a drop in the geological bucket. However, no one is predicting immediate doom. What is being pointed out, that in spite of the lowest Total Solar Irridiance measured since we have had the ability to measure it, the ice continues to melt, and the same for the permafrost.

Fortunately for humanity we are in between solar ice ages which are all too frequent and a thousand times more deadly than the nice weather we are enjoying today. In case you haven't noticed, America is in a economic meltdown which is escalating faster and far more devistating than the scenario that the political scientists predict.

Political Scientists? Climate is not in the realm of political science. It is atmospheric physics. So who are the political scientists to whom you are refering?

Under a neo-socialist regime America is selling it's treasure and the future of our grandkids to oil producing nations while pseudo-scientists predict the end of the world because of America's alleged decadance and reliance on oil. It's insane to subscribe to the doomsday scenario that pseudo scientists on government grants predict while America is an economic free-fall and forced to buy oil while our neo-socialist regime promises a emotional substitute for oil that doesn't exist.

Hmmm...... A bit hard to tranlate that hodpodge of ranting into anything meaningful. So what you are saying is that these scientists are forcing us to buy oil, and are telling us that we should be looking for other forms of energy? And that is very bad? Bad that they are forcing us to buy the oil? Bad that they are telling us that we should be looking for other forms of energy?

I'm saying that academic science grants are likely to reach whatever conclusion that keeps the money flowing. The private sector will come up with alternate sources of energy sooner or later but it ain't happnin in five or ten or twenty years. In the meantime our neo-socialist president and the drones on the democrat party continue to tell their loyal and emotional followers that "oil is evil" while selling our grandkids future to oil producing countries. The disconnect seems to be that lefties either consciously or unconsciously think America's alleged decadence is the cause of weather inconsistiencies and the melting ice on the polar ice caps will be fixed if the US influence in the world is reduced to 3rd world status.

So all the scientists are money grubbing immoral bastards and the energy companies are angels.

It is knownothing anti-science fools like yourself that are actively working to reduce this nation to third world status. You think that you are capable of commenting on a subject of which the only knowledge you have is single sentence dimbulb lies spread just for the willfully ignorant.
 
Economic prosperity for far northern Canada and Alaska, and lower shipping costs, and a faster transit from Atlantic to Pacific ports?

Rising seas and flooded cities as well.




Maybe. There are a lot of cities that are allready below sea level, they seem to be doing OK and have done so for hundreds of years. I would think that modern man with all of the technological advantages we have would be able to handle whatever comes quite handily.

As demonstrated by Katrina and Northern Japan.
 
Rising seas and flooded cities as well.




Maybe. There are a lot of cities that are allready below sea level, they seem to be doing OK and have done so for hundreds of years. I would think that modern man with all of the technological advantages we have would be able to handle whatever comes quite handily.

As demonstrated by Katrina and Northern Japan.





How do you figure that one? Katrina was an example of how long term corruption will prevent meaningful repairs and upgrades from occuring as happened in New Orleans. There was a very interesting report that shows had the Army Corp of Engineers been allowed to do the work they wanted to years earlier the problem would have been mitigated quite well.

And really, you are going to ascribe the effects of a tsunami with a height over 20 feet with a possible rise in the oceans of 2 feet? Really? Surely you jest.
 
A lot of interesting information in this blog.

Arctic Ice March 2011 Update #2

Arctic Ice March 2011 Update #2


The melt season of 2010 ended with a low extent and with little ice older than two years. There are strong indications that the winter of 2010 - 2011 did not compact and thicken the sea ice as much as would normally be expected.
 
I think during my lifetime, the ice cap will be gone. Hopefully I can see some of it before it is gone. Hopefully we can change our ways and help restore and lower the world temperature. Our consumer lifestyles have accelerated global warming past the natural ups and downs that normally cause it.

Yeah, first time the earth has ever experienced climate change.

Maybe if you buy a bicyle it will make a difference?
 

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