Alfie Evans...what happens when the left dehumanizes children

[Moonglow]

Where was your God to save this child?

The Pope attempted to bring him to the Vatican, the courts refused.

I thought God was everywhere?

The Lord is indeed everywhere.

Look outside and you'll see the signs of life everywhere, from the dandelion seeds blowing in the wind to the newly hatched fowls that hide beneath their mothers wings.

And I see death also....it's all part of the plan, man...

You're lack of gratitude for creation is showing. Perhaps you should give thanks (thanksgiving) for the self repairing and self replicating machine that used arcane and complicated DNA instructions to assemble itself from scratch to Creator who designed it.

It's just like the old timers used to say in situations like this, "It's God's will",, and all the praying and gnashing of teeth along with the cursing changes nothing because it is out of any humans control..

 

[Coyote]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

 

[Moonglow]

There is a lot of hard choices in life and the hardest one is when you have to leave a child because of death.
Some never want to give up, while others don't want to see suffering continue.

 

[Moonglow]

I never got a choice.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Btw, before you lbibes that laugh at jokes about aborted babies attempt to hijack th thread, let it be known that Pope Francis granted the child Italian citizenship so the child could be treated outside the UK in retaliation to the UK court rulings that Alfie was their ward and property (no longer belonged to the parents) and was too expensive to maintain for the lack of economic return that Alfie would provide (zero).

In other words, the UK's big left government simply weighs the life of a citizen as a financial asset or liability, and determined that Alfie was a liability of severe negative value with conceivable chance of being productive in the future.

But hey, as liberal comedian Michelle Wolf would jest: If you hillbillies are too stupid to post-abort your child then we'll do it for you!

Pope, others mourn death of British toddler Alfie Evans
Alfie Evans, British toddler at center of legal battle, has died
Alfie Evans’ chaplain recalled from Alder Hey
Terminally-ill British boy becomes rallying point for US conservatives

Erick Erickson, a leading conservative activist and commentator, tweeted: “The British press is not a free press or a moral press. If it were, it’d be making a really big deal about the UK killing Alfie Evans.”

In the United Kingdom, police issued warnings after staffers at the hospital where Evans is being treated have received “unprecedented personal abuse” according its chair, Sir David Henshaw.

Other American conservatives struck even more ardent notes. The former Republican congressman and radio host Joe Walsh tweeted: “Why does an American need an AR-15?’ To make sure what’s happening to #AlfieEvans never happens here. That’s why.”

You know why the UK posted ARMED police around Alfie, because they knew their citizenry was disarmed and would not be able to break through phalanx of armed officers.

Joe Walsh is correct. In any conservative part of the US (most of the US geographically) the hospital would have been stormed by armed citizens and the child would have been transported to the safety of the Vatican for health care.


How long before they apply this ruling all citizens and not just post-birth abortion age classified children?

Oh no the police and elite are scared!
Alfie Evans: police issue warning over online abuse of medical staff

Wow, Pope Francis, head of the VATICAN CITY (It's a country) granted a boy ITALIAN citizenship? How's that? Pope Francis isn't the head of Italy, isn't Italian, doesn't live in Italy.

Could I grant people Italian citizenship?

Dehumanize? The right like to go to war.

When the US goes to war for oil, does the right think what will happen to the children? No, doesn't give a shit.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Child Euthanasia (German: Kinder-Euthanasie) was the name given to the organised murder of severely mentally and physically handicapped children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of this programme, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

 

[Moonglow]

Btw, before you lbibes that laugh at jokes about aborted babies attempt to hijack th thread, let it be known that Pope Francis granted the child Italian citizenship so the child could be treated outside the UK in retaliation to the UK court rulings that Alfie was their ward and property (no longer belonged to the parents) and was too expensive to maintain for the lack of economic return that Alfie would provide (zero).

In other words, the UK's big left government simply weighs the life of a citizen as a financial asset or liability, and determined that Alfie was a liability of severe negative value with conceivable chance of being productive in the future.

But hey, as liberal comedian Michelle Wolf would jest: If you hillbillies are too stupid to post-abort your child then we'll do it for you!

Pope, others mourn death of British toddler Alfie Evans
Alfie Evans, British toddler at center of legal battle, has died
Alfie Evans’ chaplain recalled from Alder Hey
Terminally-ill British boy becomes rallying point for US conservatives

Erick Erickson, a leading conservative activist and commentator, tweeted: “The British press is not a free press or a moral press. If it were, it’d be making a really big deal about the UK killing Alfie Evans.”

In the United Kingdom, police issued warnings after staffers at the hospital where Evans is being treated have received “unprecedented personal abuse” according its chair, Sir David Henshaw.

Other American conservatives struck even more ardent notes. The former Republican congressman and radio host Joe Walsh tweeted: “Why does an American need an AR-15?’ To make sure what’s happening to #AlfieEvans never happens here. That’s why.”

You know why the UK posted ARMED police around Alfie, because they knew their citizenry was disarmed and would not be able to break through phalanx of armed officers.

Joe Walsh is correct. In any conservative part of the US (most of the US geographically) the hospital would have been stormed by armed citizens and the child would have been transported to the safety of the Vatican for health care.


How long before they apply this ruling all citizens and not just post-birth abortion age classified children?

Oh no the police and elite are scared!
Alfie Evans: police issue warning over online abuse of medical staff

Wow, Pope Francis, head of the VATICAN CITY (It's a country) granted a boy ITALIAN citizenship? How's that? Pope Francis isn't the head of Italy, isn't Italian, doesn't live in Italy.

Could I grant people Italian citizenship?

Dehumanize? The right like to go to war.

When the US goes to war for oil, does the right think what will happen to the children? No, doesn't give a shit.

The Papacy is the smallest nation on Earth and the Pope is its leader..

 

[Moonglow]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Child Euthanasia (German: Kinder-Euthanasie) was the name given to the organised murder of severely mentally and physically handicapped children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of this programme, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

It's already done through insurance dumping of patients, so don't even go there since it can happen in a capitalistic society also.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Dehumanize? The right like to go to war.

When the US goes to war for oil, does the right think what will happen to the children? No, doesn't give a shit.

Nice try. But I'm a libertarian, constitutionalist and isolationist. I do not agree with Dick Cheney's oil wars that Hillary Clinton voted for. Hence I casted my ballot for Obama both times.

The mass murder of Muslim children only makes the survivors grow up as terrorists to avenge their brothers and sisters.

 

[Coyote]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Child Euthanasia (German: Kinder-Euthanasie) was the name given to the organised murder of severely mentally and physically handicapped children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of this programme, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

To use Nazi Germany as a comparison is the height of ignorance.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Child Euthanasia (German: Kinder-Euthanasie) was the name given to the organised murder of severely mentally and physically handicapped children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of this programme, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

To use Nazi Germany as a comparison is the height of ignorance.

Really, what's the difference between the UK court rulings and the Nazi policies? Both deemed the child a financial liability and unproductive member of society and euthanized them.

 

[Coyote]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Child Euthanasia (German: Kinder-Euthanasie) was the name given to the organised murder of severely mentally and physically handicapped children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of this programme, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

To use Nazi Germany as a comparison is the height of ignorance.

Really, what's the difference between the UK court rulings and the Nazi policies? Both deemed the child a financial liability and unproductive member of society and euthanized them.

HUGE differences. Do you really need me to go into it? If so, I will.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Btw, before you lbibes that laugh at jokes about aborted babies attempt to hijack th thread, let it be known that Pope Francis granted the child Italian citizenship so the child could be treated outside the UK in retaliation to the UK court rulings that Alfie was their ward and property (no longer belonged to the parents) and was too expensive to maintain for the lack of economic return that Alfie would provide (zero).

In other words, the UK's big left government simply weighs the life of a citizen as a financial asset or liability, and determined that Alfie was a liability of severe negative value with conceivable chance of being productive in the future.

But hey, as liberal comedian Michelle Wolf would jest: If you hillbillies are too stupid to post-abort your child then we'll do it for you!

Pope, others mourn death of British toddler Alfie Evans
Alfie Evans, British toddler at center of legal battle, has died
Alfie Evans’ chaplain recalled from Alder Hey
Terminally-ill British boy becomes rallying point for US conservatives

Erick Erickson, a leading conservative activist and commentator, tweeted: “The British press is not a free press or a moral press. If it were, it’d be making a really big deal about the UK killing Alfie Evans.”

In the United Kingdom, police issued warnings after staffers at the hospital where Evans is being treated have received “unprecedented personal abuse” according its chair, Sir David Henshaw.

Other American conservatives struck even more ardent notes. The former Republican congressman and radio host Joe Walsh tweeted: “Why does an American need an AR-15?’ To make sure what’s happening to #AlfieEvans never happens here. That’s why.”

You know why the UK posted ARMED police around Alfie, because they knew their citizenry was disarmed and would not be able to break through phalanx of armed officers.

Joe Walsh is correct. In any conservative part of the US (most of the US geographically) the hospital would have been stormed by armed citizens and the child would have been transported to the safety of the Vatican for health care.


How long before they apply this ruling all citizens and not just post-birth abortion age classified children?

Oh no the police and elite are scared!
Alfie Evans: police issue warning over online abuse of medical staff

Wow, Pope Francis, head of the VATICAN CITY (It's a country) granted a boy ITALIAN citizenship? How's that? Pope Francis isn't the head of Italy, isn't Italian, doesn't live in Italy.

Could I grant people Italian citizenship?

Dehumanize? The right like to go to war.

When the US goes to war for oil, does the right think what will happen to the children? No, doesn't give a shit.

The Papacy is the smallest nation on Earth and the Pope is its leader..

Yes, and it's not Italy.

 

[Moonglow]

Btw, before you lbibes that laugh at jokes about aborted babies attempt to hijack th thread, let it be known that Pope Francis granted the child Italian citizenship so the child could be treated outside the UK in retaliation to the UK court rulings that Alfie was their ward and property (no longer belonged to the parents) and was too expensive to maintain for the lack of economic return that Alfie would provide (zero).

In other words, the UK's big left government simply weighs the life of a citizen as a financial asset or liability, and determined that Alfie was a liability of severe negative value with conceivable chance of being productive in the future.

But hey, as liberal comedian Michelle Wolf would jest: If you hillbillies are too stupid to post-abort your child then we'll do it for you!

Pope, others mourn death of British toddler Alfie Evans
Alfie Evans, British toddler at center of legal battle, has died
Alfie Evans’ chaplain recalled from Alder Hey
Terminally-ill British boy becomes rallying point for US conservatives

Erick Erickson, a leading conservative activist and commentator, tweeted: “The British press is not a free press or a moral press. If it were, it’d be making a really big deal about the UK killing Alfie Evans.”

In the United Kingdom, police issued warnings after staffers at the hospital where Evans is being treated have received “unprecedented personal abuse” according its chair, Sir David Henshaw.

Other American conservatives struck even more ardent notes. The former Republican congressman and radio host Joe Walsh tweeted: “Why does an American need an AR-15?’ To make sure what’s happening to #AlfieEvans never happens here. That’s why.”

You know why the UK posted ARMED police around Alfie, because they knew their citizenry was disarmed and would not be able to break through phalanx of armed officers.

Joe Walsh is correct. In any conservative part of the US (most of the US geographically) the hospital would have been stormed by armed citizens and the child would have been transported to the safety of the Vatican for health care.


How long before they apply this ruling all citizens and not just post-birth abortion age classified children?

Oh no the police and elite are scared!
Alfie Evans: police issue warning over online abuse of medical staff

Wow, Pope Francis, head of the VATICAN CITY (It's a country) granted a boy ITALIAN citizenship? How's that? Pope Francis isn't the head of Italy, isn't Italian, doesn't live in Italy.

Could I grant people Italian citizenship?

Dehumanize? The right like to go to war.

When the US goes to war for oil, does the right think what will happen to the children? No, doesn't give a shit.

The Papacy is the smallest nation on Earth and the Pope is its leader..

Yes, and it's not Italy.

It is I-talian..

 

[frigidweirdo]

Dehumanize? The right like to go to war.

When the US goes to war for oil, does the right think what will happen to the children? No, doesn't give a shit.

Nice try. But I'm a libertarian, constitutionalist and isolationist. I do not agree with Dick Cheney's oil wars that Hillary Clinton voted for. Hence I casted my ballot for Obama both times.

The mass murder of Muslim children only makes the survivors grow up as terrorists to avenge their brothers and sisters.

The point I made was that a lot of people on the right don't give a damn unless it they think they can gain some advantage out of it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Btw, before you lbibes that laugh at jokes about aborted babies attempt to hijack th thread, let it be known that Pope Francis granted the child Italian citizenship so the child could be treated outside the UK in retaliation to the UK court rulings that Alfie was their ward and property (no longer belonged to the parents) and was too expensive to maintain for the lack of economic return that Alfie would provide (zero).

In other words, the UK's big left government simply weighs the life of a citizen as a financial asset or liability, and determined that Alfie was a liability of severe negative value with conceivable chance of being productive in the future.

But hey, as liberal comedian Michelle Wolf would jest: If you hillbillies are too stupid to post-abort your child then we'll do it for you!

Pope, others mourn death of British toddler Alfie Evans
Alfie Evans, British toddler at center of legal battle, has died
Alfie Evans’ chaplain recalled from Alder Hey
Terminally-ill British boy becomes rallying point for US conservatives

Erick Erickson, a leading conservative activist and commentator, tweeted: “The British press is not a free press or a moral press. If it were, it’d be making a really big deal about the UK killing Alfie Evans.”

In the United Kingdom, police issued warnings after staffers at the hospital where Evans is being treated have received “unprecedented personal abuse” according its chair, Sir David Henshaw.

Other American conservatives struck even more ardent notes. The former Republican congressman and radio host Joe Walsh tweeted: “Why does an American need an AR-15?’ To make sure what’s happening to #AlfieEvans never happens here. That’s why.”

You know why the UK posted ARMED police around Alfie, because they knew their citizenry was disarmed and would not be able to break through phalanx of armed officers.

Joe Walsh is correct. In any conservative part of the US (most of the US geographically) the hospital would have been stormed by armed citizens and the child would have been transported to the safety of the Vatican for health care.


How long before they apply this ruling all citizens and not just post-birth abortion age classified children?

Oh no the police and elite are scared!
Alfie Evans: police issue warning over online abuse of medical staff

Wow, Pope Francis, head of the VATICAN CITY (It's a country) granted a boy ITALIAN citizenship? How's that? Pope Francis isn't the head of Italy, isn't Italian, doesn't live in Italy.

Could I grant people Italian citizenship?

Dehumanize? The right like to go to war.

When the US goes to war for oil, does the right think what will happen to the children? No, doesn't give a shit.

The Papacy is the smallest nation on Earth and the Pope is its leader..

Yes, and it's not Italy.

It is I-talian..

It's not eye-talian, I-talian, U-talian or anything else talian. It's Vatican.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Child Euthanasia (German: Kinder-Euthanasie) was the name given to the organised murder of severely mentally and physically handicapped children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of this programme, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

To use Nazi Germany as a comparison is the height of ignorance.

Really, what's the difference between the UK court rulings and the Nazi policies? Both deemed the child a financial liability and unproductive member of society and euthanized them.

HUGE differences. Do you really need me to go into it? If so, I will.

Please do.

 

[Coyote]

Isn't it dehumanizing to use a terminally ill child to score political points?

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

Child Euthanasia (German: Kinder-Euthanasie) was the name given to the organised murder of severely mentally and physically handicapped children and young people up to 16 years old during the Nazi era in over 30 so-called special children's wards. At least 5,000 children were victims of this programme, which was a precursor to the subsequent murder of children in the concentration camps.

To use Nazi Germany as a comparison is the height of ignorance.

Really, what's the difference between the UK court rulings and the Nazi policies? Both deemed the child a financial liability and unproductive member of society and euthanized them.

HUGE differences. Do you really need me to go into it? If so, I will.

Please do.

The Nazi's slaughtered some 2/3 of Europe's Jewish population.

Jews and many others were herded into concentration camps where they were effectively put to death in gas chambers, starved, or forced into inhumane "medical" experiments.

They were all deemed subhuman.

That's the short of it.

Alfie Evans, the child you are using to score political points has been gravely ill for most of his young life. Doctors, specialists and his parents have been unable to halt the progressive brain damage. MRI's a year earlier revealed 70% of his brain destroyed. More recent MRI's revealed further destruction. He was kept alive on life support and his doctors - medical specialists noted no brain activity between seizures.

His parents, understandably, do not want to accept that there is nothing that can be done for their child. British law states that in a conflict like this the courts provide an advocate that looks out for the child's best interests (and no they don't always side with the medical profession). They determined that it was time to cut off life support. Agree or disagree - brain damage of this type - which despite the best efforts of the medical profession - does not regenerate. This is hardly similar to the Nazi's and by making that claim you are slapping the real victims in the face.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

This is coming to America if the left gets they're way. No. It's dehumanizing to promote the concept of "post-birth abortions" and "euthanisia" and "national health care" as all separate issues, just so when they get their way on all three issues you seem they actually all part of the same goal: Eugenics.

Child euthanasia in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

To use Nazi Germany as a comparison is the height of ignorance.

Really, what's the difference between the UK court rulings and the Nazi policies? Both deemed the child a financial liability and unproductive member of society and euthanized them.

HUGE differences. Do you really need me to go into it? If so, I will.

Please do.

The Nazi's slaughtered some 2/3 of Europe's Jewish population.

Jews and many others were herded into concentration camps where they were effectively put to death in gas chambers, starved, or forced into inhumane "medical" experiments.

They were all deemed subhuman.

That's the short of it.

Alfie Evans, the child you are using to score political points has been gravely ill for most of his young life. Doctors, specialists and his parents have been unable to halt the progressive brain damage. MRI's a year earlier revealed 70% of his brain destroyed. More recent MRI's revealed further destruction. He was kept alive on life support and his doctors - medical specialists noted no brain activity between seizures.

His parents, understandably, do not want to accept that there is nothing that can be done for their child. British law states that in a conflict like this the courts provide an advocate that looks out for the child's best interests (and no they don't always side with the medical profession). They determined that it was time to cut off life support. Agree or disagree - brain damage of this type - which despite the best efforts of the medical profession - does not regenerate. This is hardly similar to the Nazi's and by making that claim you are slapping the real victims in the face.

This is how it always begins with progressives...with your best interests at heart.

There's no such thing as a "slippery slope fallacy" with you fuckers. You slide down the slope as fast as you can.

We only have to look to Europe to see where you progs will lead us 10 years from now.

 

[Coyote]

To use Nazi Germany as a comparison is the height of ignorance.

Really, what's the difference between the UK court rulings and the Nazi policies? Both deemed the child a financial liability and unproductive member of society and euthanized them.

HUGE differences. Do you really need me to go into it? If so, I will.

Please do.

The Nazi's slaughtered some 2/3 of Europe's Jewish population.

Jews and many others were herded into concentration camps where they were effectively put to death in gas chambers, starved, or forced into inhumane "medical" experiments.

They were all deemed subhuman.

That's the short of it.

Alfie Evans, the child you are using to score political points has been gravely ill for most of his young life. Doctors, specialists and his parents have been unable to halt the progressive brain damage. MRI's a year earlier revealed 70% of his brain destroyed. More recent MRI's revealed further destruction. He was kept alive on life support and his doctors - medical specialists noted no brain activity between seizures.

His parents, understandably, do not want to accept that there is nothing that can be done for their child. British law states that in a conflict like this the courts provide an advocate that looks out for the child's best interests (and no they don't always side with the medical profession). They determined that it was time to cut off life support. Agree or disagree - brain damage of this type - which despite the best efforts of the medical profession - does not regenerate. This is hardly similar to the Nazi's and by making that claim you are slapping the real victims in the face.

This is how it always begins with progressives...with your best interests at heart.

There's no such thing as a "slippery slope fallacy" with you fuckers. You slide down the slope as fast as you can.

Nothing to do with slippery slopes (fucker) - it's about historical accuracy.