Alexander Vindman is a US Amry Infantry Officer; SALUTE!

[Dick Foster]

Of course but combat doesn't make you less political...it enhances it....

It can, true.

It can also make you suffer from, a lot of problems aside from that.

But on the whole I think it proves merit to go into a combat MOS and excell, especially in the infantry.

I am not saying that Vindman is right for what he says are his concerns.

I am saying that having those concerns are over his pay grade, but I have zero doubt that he is being honest and sincere.

To men like Vindman there is a Soviet era spy around every corner....that was his job in DC...

Asking a foreign country to investigate your political opponent has nothing to do with the Soviets....

Why do you folks keep avoiding the facts??

Is Mick Mulvaney obsessed with the Soviet era too -- since he admitted what Vindman is "TESTIFYING UNDER OATH" to??

They were asked to investigate corrupion in their own country that included a political opponets son who had no fucking business at all being their but for corrupt purposes and raping the American public of the tax dollars they spent for purposes other than to line the pocket of the opponet or his son. He has a constitutional responsibility
to do just exactly that, shitforbrains.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

What evidence have the republics offered to counter all the testimony that trump asked country for an investigation of the Bidens and the wingnut Russian conspiracy that the Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

Because I have watched the inquiry and no one has yet.

There hasn't been a fair proceeding yet, moron. It's Schiff's show trial.

 

[otto105]

You should listen to the actual testimony and not lie about it.

And you should get the actual facts, not Schiff talking points if you want any credibility at all.
You are too stupid to lie because you willingly swallow what ever gets put in your mouth. I'm sure you believe everything
the Schiff circus puts out.

If you had an actual example, you would have offered it here, instead of poster diarrhea.

 

[otto105]

What evidence have the republics offered to counter all the testimony that trump asked country for an investigation of the Bidens and the wingnut Russian conspiracy that the Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

Because I have watched the inquiry and no one has yet.

There hasn't been a fair proceeding yet, moron. It's Schiff's show trial.

More poster diarrhea..

 

[otto105]

Of course but combat doesn't make you less political...it enhances it....

It can, true.

It can also make you suffer from, a lot of problems aside from that.

But on the whole I think it proves merit to go into a combat MOS and excell, especially in the infantry.

I am not saying that Vindman is right for what he says are his concerns.

I am saying that having those concerns are over his pay grade, but I have zero doubt that he is being honest and sincere.

To men like Vindman there is a Soviet era spy around every corner....that was his job in DC...

Asking a foreign country to investigate your political opponent has nothing to do with the Soviets....

Why do you folks keep avoiding the facts??

Is Mick Mulvaney obsessed with the Soviet era too -- since he admitted what Vindman is "TESTIFYING UNDER OATH" to??

They were asked to investigate corrupion in their own country that included a political opponets son who had no fucking business at all being their but for corrupt purposes and raping the American public of the tax dollars they spent for purposes other than to line the pocket of the opponet or his son. He has a constitutional responsibility
to do just exactly that, shitforbrains.

What "crime" in the Ukraine are you accusing Hunter Biden of which would cause that government to investigate him.

Also, can you point to any investigation of Hunter Biden in country or are you just lying about that too.

 

[rightwinger]

Still waiting for Republicans to offer a rebuttal that supports Trumps actions with Ukraine.

You act like there is none. You are too stupid and hypnotized to be credible.

I watched the testimony

Republicans complain about process and say Trump can do anything he wants in foreign policy while they attack the witnesses

 

[MarathonMike]

I am able to separate Vindman's service as a soldier from his role in this latest attempt to illegitimately remove Trump from office. Vindman himself has said his loyalty is to the "Interagency". Alex Vindman Is Living Proof That The Deep State Exists, And Is Corrupt

"Illegitimately"?

Impeachment is in the US Constitution and it is in there for acts trump engaged in.

No -
And you all have being doing this charade dance for 3 years.

Did Putin put you up to that post?

Do you all have the brains to even contemplate how utterly ridiculous you sound when you say that?

Think about something -
63 Million people voted for Trump-
Think about all the homes that have devices in them that listen to us.
The President has access to all of the names of people like you -
Especially since the last guy put Google in charge and in the White House.
If even a small percentage worked for Putin with The Presidents approval -
We would show up at your homes until there were so few of you that you were silent.

So -
Since you are still alive, just assume that we are Americans that simply believe differently than you.

66 Million people voted against trump.

This Impeachment Inquiry confirms that we're not an authoritarian dictatorship that you want it to be.

The Impeachment Inquiry confirms the Democrats are blinded with their hatred of Donald Trump and their insatiable need to regain power.

 

[otto105]

"Illegitimately"?

Impeachment is in the US Constitution and it is in there for acts trump engaged in.

No -
And you all have being doing this charade dance for 3 years.

Did Putin put you up to that post?

Do you all have the brains to even contemplate how utterly ridiculous you sound when you say that?

Think about something -
63 Million people voted for Trump-
Think about all the homes that have devices in them that listen to us.
The President has access to all of the names of people like you -
Especially since the last guy put Google in charge and in the White House.
If even a small percentage worked for Putin with The Presidents approval -
We would show up at your homes until there were so few of you that you were silent.

So -
Since you are still alive, just assume that we are Americans that simply believe differently than you.

66 Million people voted against trump.

This Impeachment Inquiry confirms that we're not an authoritarian dictatorship that you want it to be.

The Impeachment Inquiry confirms the Democrats are blinded with their hatred of Donald Trump and their insatiable need to regain power.

We're united in our belief that a sitting US President shouldn't use the office and taxpayer dollars to extort foreign countries for personal political desires.

 

[DustyInfinity]

"Illegitimately"?

Impeachment is in the US Constitution and it is in there for acts trump engaged in.

That hasn't even remotely been demonstrated and in fact Adam Schiff is conducting a show trial
right now in order to keep republicans from putting up a proper defense and rebuttal to this contrived scam.

This is about as "legitimate" as that other politicized joke Schiff was involved up to his neck in, the Russian collusion
hoax. Grow up.

What evidence have the republics offered to counter all the testimony that trump asked country for an investigation of the Bidens and the wingnut Russian conspiracy that the Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

Because I have watched the inquiry and no one has yet.

Try the actual transcripts. It is clear there is no quid pro quo. Even some of Trump's political enemies say the 'actual' call is not a violation in any sense. That makes this show even more ridiculous. Each witness so far has been a bigger disaster than the one before. Colonial Klink was a bigger disgrace than the clueless diplomats. Even though this show is horrible for the country, I must admit it is entertaining. It is so bad, it is funny. Pass the popcorn for the next witness, because they have been getting worse each time.

 

[otto105]

"Illegitimately"?

Impeachment is in the US Constitution and it is in there for acts trump engaged in.

That hasn't even remotely been demonstrated and in fact Adam Schiff is conducting a show trial
right now in order to keep republicans from putting up a proper defense and rebuttal to this contrived scam.

This is about as "legitimate" as that other politicized joke Schiff was involved up to his neck in, the Russian collusion
hoax. Grow up.

What evidence have the republics offered to counter all the testimony that trump asked country for an investigation of the Bidens and the wingnut Russian conspiracy that the Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

Because I have watched the inquiry and no one has yet.

Try the actual transcripts. It is clear there is no quid pro quo. Even some of Trump's political enemies say the 'actual' call is not a violation in any sense. That makes this show even more ridiculous. Each witness so far has been a bigger disaster than the one before. Colonial Klink was a bigger disgrace than the clueless diplomats. Even though this show is horrible for the country, I must admit it is entertaining. It is so bad, it is funny. Pass the popcorn for the next witness, because they have been getting worse each time.

Your hope is that everyone just looks at the summary of the phone call rather than all the activities that surround the ill fated call.

Can you post what rick perry was doing in country and handing out papers with donor names on them?

Or why rudy was dancing with Russians?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Try the actual transcripts. It is clear there is no quid pro quo. Even some of Trump's political enemies say the 'actual' call is not a violation in any sense. That makes this show even more ridiculous. Each witness so far has been a bigger disaster than the one before. Colonial Klink was a bigger disgrace than the clueless diplomats. Even though this show is horrible for the country, I must admit it is entertaining. It is so bad, it is funny. Pass the popcorn for the next witness, because they have been getting worse each time.

That's why the "quid pro quo" crap was dropped in favor of "bribery"....a charge that's equally ridiculous.
Ukraine has been getting our aid for years despite being massively and repugnantly corrupt and all they have to do
is be a check on Russia just by existing..
And they've gotten their tank missiles Obama wouldn't give them. So where is Ukraine being "bribed"?
Where is that thing Trump paid them to do?

It's a joke. Schiff and Pelosi are massively incompetent.

 

[rightwinger]

"Illegitimately"?

Impeachment is in the US Constitution and it is in there for acts trump engaged in.

No -
And you all have being doing this charade dance for 3 years.

Did Putin put you up to that post?

Do you all have the brains to even contemplate how utterly ridiculous you sound when you say that?

Think about something -
63 Million people voted for Trump-
Think about all the homes that have devices in them that listen to us.
The President has access to all of the names of people like you -
Especially since the last guy put Google in charge and in the White House.
If even a small percentage worked for Putin with The Presidents approval -
We would show up at your homes until there were so few of you that you were silent.

So -
Since you are still alive, just assume that we are Americans that simply believe differently than you.

66 Million people voted against trump.

This Impeachment Inquiry confirms that we're not an authoritarian dictatorship that you want it to be.

The Impeachment Inquiry confirms the Democrats are blinded with their hatred of Donald Trump and their insatiable need to regain power.

Actually, they are blinded by the criminal behavior of the President

 

[Syriusly]

Other than slander and libel, probably won't pay for his testimony.
I think he respects the civilian command fine, at least when they're not being corrupt.

I guess it's not being corrupt when Joe Biden and his kid use Ukraine as their own personal ATM but when Trump
wants to know where our seven billion dollars went, Burisma, then he's the corrupt one!

Vindman doesn't respect Trump's authority and they used to fire war heroes like Douglas McArthur for things like that.

He doesn't make policy. It's not his job. He says quite clearly his allegiance to the Interagency.
He's a deep state viper who should have his head removed like we do with all dangerous snakes.

Like all of your Trump Kultists- you immediately move to smear anyone who you think is a threat to your Orange Messiah.
From Vindman's opening statement:

I have dedicated my entire professional life to the United States of America. For more than two decades, it has been my honor to serve as an officer in the United States Army. As an infantry officer, I served multiple overseas tours, including South Korea and Germany, and I was deployed to Iraq for combat operations. Since 2008, I have been a Foreign Area Officer specializing in European and Eurasian politico-military affairs. I served in the United States embassies in Kiev, Ukraine and Moscow, Russia.

I was concerned by the call, what I heard was improper, and I reported my concerns to Mr. Eisenberg. It is improper for the President of the United States to demand a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen and political opponent. It was also clear that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the 2016 election, the Bidens, and
Burisma, it would be interpreted as a partisan play. This would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing bipartisan support, undermine U.S. national security, and advance Russia’s strategic objectives in the region.

I want to emphasize to the Committee that when I reported my concerns -- on July 10, relating to Ambassador Sondland, and on July 25, relating to the President -- I did so out of a sense of duty. I privately reported my concerns, in official channels, to the proper authorities in the chain of command. My intent was to raise these concerns because they had significant national security implications for our country. I never thought I would be sitting here testifying in front of this committee and the American public, about my actions.

When I reported my concerns, my only thought was to act properly and to carry out duty. Following each of my reports to Mr. Eisenberg, I immediately returned to work to advance the President’s and our
country’s foreign policy objectives. I focused on what I have done throughout my career, promoting America’s national security interests.

Now that you have read an excerpt of Vindman said- rather than what was fed to you by the Trump attack machine- please point out where Vindman did anything or said anything improper?

After all- you have suggested decapitating Vindman- so he must have done something very bad- and very specific that you can point out.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I watched the testimony

Republicans complain about process and say Trump can do anything he wants in foreign policy while they attack the witnesses

Do you watch? Show me the number of witnesses the republicans have been allowed to call.

I believe that number is zero!

 

[Syriusly]

Limbaugh credibly thinks it's Vindman who leaked details of Trump's phone call to Zelinsky to CIA plant Eric Charimella who immediately got together with Adam Schiff and started this whole circus off.

Limbaugh is an entertainer who makes his money out of creating speculation to inflame his far right base.

And seriously- don't put 'credible' and Limbaugh in the same sentence- they never belong together.

 

[Syriusly]

LC Vindman came up the hard way going infantry.

I dont care what he says about Trump, he is a real man and worthy of our respect.

Alexander Vindman - Wikipedia

After graduating from State University of New York at Binghamton in 1998, Vindman joined the United States Army and became a career Army officer.[3] He completed the Infantry Officer Basic Course (IOBC) at Fort Benning in 1999 and deployed the next year to South Korea, where he commanded infantry and an anti-armor platoon.[3] In addition to overseas deployments to South Korea and Germany, Vindman is a combat veteran.[3] He was deployed to Iraq to take part in the Iraq War from September 2004 to September 2005.[2] In October 2004,[2] he sustained an injury from a roadside bomb in Iraq, for which he received a Purple Heart.[3] He was promoted to the rank of major in 2008,[6] and to lieutenant colonel in September 2015.[7]

During his Army career, Vindman earned the Ranger Tab, Combat Infantryman Badge, Expert Infantryman Badge and Parachutist Badge, as well as four Army Commendation Medals and two Defense Meritorious Service Medals.[2]

Beginning in 2008, Vindman became a Foreign Area Officer specializing in Eurasia. In this capacity he served in the U.S. embassies in Kiev, Ukraine, and Moscow, Russia. Returning to Washington, D.C. he was then a politico-military affairs officer focused on Russia for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
​

Those above qualifications are not easy to come by, even for kiss ass officers.

Thanks for that post.

Meanwhile- as usual- what follows is the smear and slander of another American soldier by the Trump Kultists.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Now that you have read an excerpt of Vindman said- rather than what was fed to you by the Trump attack machine- please point out where Vindman did anything or said anything improper?

After all- you have suggested decapitating Vindman- so he must have done something very bad- and very specific that you can point out.

LOL....seriously? Like Vindman is going to tell in his own statement how he was the source of the whistleblowing and how he got Eric Chiramello to take that information straight to Adama Schiff (violating all sorts of regulations about chain of command and violating direct orders from his Commander in Chief?).
How the Army officer who testified against Trump could end up in a court-martial

This liar did not go through proper channels and a chain of command with the information he took upon himself to report, with little to no justification.
For this alone he deserves a court martial and an end to his politicized military career.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Limbaugh is an entertainer who makes his money out of creating speculation to inflame his far right base.

And seriously- don't put 'credible' and Limbaugh in the same sentence- they never belong together.

And neither do you, ironically. Discuss the content of his observation instead of cheap juvenile personal attacks,
if you are able.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

More poster diarrhea..

Says the clown who cannot contend with facts.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

We're united in our belief that a sitting US President shouldn't use the office and taxpayer dollars to extort foreign countries for personal political desires.

Yeah....none of that happened. How's that Russian collusion case coming, though?