In my heart of hearts, I personally believe in Peter Josephs philosophy of his Zeitgeist Movement and Jacque Frescos Venus Project. However, I believe that Peter Joseph is waging a war in which he cannot win and so I am a supporter of Alex Jones. Alex Jones claims that he is not a conservative but I disagree with that because I have listened to his radio shows and his views tends to be moderately conservative (glad that he is not a radical conservative). Peter Joseph claims that he is not a communist or a socialist but his views tend to be more liberal. I wonder if their views are the result of upbringing since Alex is in Texas and his father is a dentist whereas Peter Joseph has witnessed poverty in his eyes and his mom was a social worker. Peter even admits that his mother has helped shape some of his current views and beliefs. I think Peter Joseph is waging a war in which he cannot win because not only is he waging a war against the elite and the establishment but he is also waging a war against the upper middle class not a part of the global elite such as small business owners or other people who have a lot of money but not as much as the elite. I do not believe that the upper middle class would want to see all their money disappear overnight. Many conservatives view this as socialist or communist and find the Zeitgeist Movement threatening their possession of money (which I think reveals the true motivation in life which is extrinsic compared to intrinsic motivation contrary to what many psychologists say). The only possibility in which I see possible of Peter Joseph being successful would be if extraterrestrials revealed themselves to the earth population with huge visible mother ships demanding that the resources of the world be equally distributed to everyone at the United Nations. From a spiritual perspective, I believe that humanity has forgotten that the fruits of the earth belong to everybody. To deny another human being the basic necessities of food, water, and shelter is not right in my opinion. I can certainly understand the frustration of some of the members here on this forum who feel not much is being done and question why the positive extraterrestrials are not helping us. The only other possibility of success would be a very long time of passage (in this case probably longer given the complicated battle) as movements countering the status quo tend to take a very long time. I also like Alex Jones. No matter how much the mainstream media have attempted to demonize him calling him schizophrenic, having oppositional defiant disorder, or simply just a nut, I have to give him credit for his courage to physically go out there and look silly in the presence of thousands of people. I have to commend him for being able to wake up every single day for almost a decade now and doing what he does on the air to get people fired up. He went to London to bullhorn. He went to Canada to bullhorn elite people in 2006 with Jim Tucker. He went to Virginia in 2008 and did the same thing. He was even arrested for illegally using a bullhorn with the 9/11 truthers asking for a reinvestigation. I have seen all of his documentary work and am impressed. Although some may call him a conspiracy theorist, he has been right on target on a lot of issues. Not only is it all about Alex Jones but his guests give really insightful information. For example, Gerald Celente has been pretty accurate with his predictions dating back 30 years. You think he is just going to strike out now when he is calling the Greatest Depression by 2012 (rhetorical question)? Seeing the supporters of Alex Jones criticizing the supporters of Peter Joseph saddens me. We are all on the same boat and if it sinks then we all sink. We are all on this together and being divided will only make us more malleable to the hands of control and manipulation. Jesus once said that a house divided cannot stand on its own. Regardless of you may feel about other people, whether you like them or not, it is going to write the destiny of our future.