Alaska is Russia

[Screaming Eagle]

No and no.

Some Russians under a man named Bearing saw it from ships and never stepped foot in it, but claimed it in the 18th century.

It was never 'ancestral' as no Russians ever lived in it.

It is and will always be a part of the United States of America.

Russia on the other hand will break up further as Siberians tire of pushy Russians telling them what to do, and russia will end up a tiny nation with little influence in the world.

There were a few hundred Russians living there at the time of the purchase. But we have had it for longer than they have. It's more of an American ancestral land.

You guys are forgetting about the people who can trace their families in Alaska back a few thousand years. Back when the Europeans were squabbling over how to divide up the planet and its resources for themselves that fact didn't mean shit, but times have changed.

They're the ones who said "you can't own land, man, because it's like land and stuff", so who are we to argue with them?

 

[AVG-JOE]

America soon disconnected into six parts, and Russia will become one of the major world players by organizing a Eurasian Union.
The statement was made professor of the Diplomatic Academy of Foreign Ministry of Russia analyst Igor Panarin. He summarized his views on the future of international relations, which have already created a sensation in the West, in his book "The Collapse of the dollar and the collapse of the U.S..

As told by the author himself, his "information bomb" he had gathered as early as 1998, immediately after the predicted August defaulted in Russia. It was then at the conference "Information warfare" in Austria, he presented the astonished experts, among whom were many Americans, the collapse of his map of the United States that have not changed over the past 11 years.

According to her, the once unshakable colossus smashed into six parts - Atlantic Coast (joins the EU), Pacific Coast (would be under the influence of China), Central North American republic, the republic of Texas, Alaska (back to Russia) and Hawaii. And we are not talking about some distant future: the first disintegration processes will begin in October - November, and in July 2010 the final script will be translated into reality. "The collapse of America is inevitable" - expressed confidence Panarin, saying that "if present at the conference Austrians embraced me happy."

Explaining how he came to this belief, a scientist focused on two factors: the shocking moral disintegration of the United States "(in his book, he cites data that 25% of American men are homosexual and 25% of girls under 12 being sexually abused) and economic collapse of Washington.

According to Panarin, the state budget deficit in the U.S. is growing rapidly catastrophic and this year will be four and a half times more than in the past. And to a huge number of bankruptcies of banks and financial institutions add significant outside threat - the intention of the world's major players (China and Japan) to refuse to store their reserves in dollars.

"September 30 fiscal year ends. And I think all the experts, financial analysts cover the shock and fear when they see the financial results of the United States. That already happens first phase - the collapse of the dollar. They have no entry ", - states the analyst. He believes that Barack Obama can not save the State, because he - "American Gorbachev". "He's a good guy, he can talk. But he was anything serious, in fact, in his life is not controlled. Obama is a social worker mentality ", - said Panarin.

He believes that without international support for America plunged into famine and chaos. In this situation, combined forces to rescue the U.S. could lead the Minister for Emergency Situations of Russia Sergei Shoigu.

According to another book, a man born of a virgin will start a big-ass war when he returns from a 2000+ year hiatus in heaven.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Predictions are for the gullible.

 

[Gholbitus]

In Russia it is necessary to make a "color" revolutions in power lead the president who loves the United States and the problems will no longer

 

[California Girl]

Go to Russia.

Unfortunately in Russia do not speak English

So get Rosetta Stone and learn Russian you asshole! No need to make my country into a Socialist shithole because we don't have enough welfare for your lazy ass.

What? You expect Athabasca to actually do something for themself? How harsh!!

 

[Toro]

America soon disconnected into six parts, and Russia will become one of the major world players by organizing a Eurasian Union.
The statement was made professor of the Diplomatic Academy of Foreign Ministry of Russia analyst Igor Panarin. He summarized his views on the future of international relations, which have already created a sensation in the West, in his book "The Collapse of the dollar and the collapse of the U.S..

As told by the author himself, his "information bomb" he had gathered as early as 1998, immediately after the predicted August defaulted in Russia. It was then at the conference "Information warfare" in Austria, he presented the astonished experts, among whom were many Americans, the collapse of his map of the United States that have not changed over the past 11 years.

According to her, the once unshakable colossus smashed into six parts - Atlantic Coast (joins the EU), Pacific Coast (would be under the influence of China), Central North American republic, the republic of Texas, Alaska (back to Russia) and Hawaii. And we are not talking about some distant future: the first disintegration processes will begin in October - November, and in July 2010 the final script will be translated into reality. "The collapse of America is inevitable" - expressed confidence Panarin, saying that "if present at the conference Austrians embraced me happy."

Explaining how he came to this belief, a scientist focused on two factors: the shocking moral disintegration of the United States "(in his book, he cites data that 25% of American men are homosexual and 25% of girls under 12 being sexually abused) and economic collapse of Washington.

According to Panarin, the state budget deficit in the U.S. is growing rapidly catastrophic and this year will be four and a half times more than in the past. And to a huge number of bankruptcies of banks and financial institutions add significant outside threat - the intention of the world's major players (China and Japan) to refuse to store their reserves in dollars.

"September 30 fiscal year ends. And I think all the experts, financial analysts cover the shock and fear when they see the financial results of the United States. That already happens first phase - the collapse of the dollar. They have no entry ", - states the analyst. He believes that Barack Obama can not save the State, because he - "American Gorbachev". "He's a good guy, he can talk. But he was anything serious, in fact, in his life is not controlled. Obama is a social worker mentality ", - said Panarin.

He believes that without international support for America plunged into famine and chaos. In this situation, combined forces to rescue the U.S. could lead the Minister for Emergency Situations of Russia Sergei Shoigu.

Ah yes, the 1991 USSR-scenario applied write-large to America by someone who knows little about the United States.

There are a lot of gullible people in the world. I hope he sells a lot of books to them.

 

[California Girl]

In Russia, Chukotka people have more help from the government, receive social benefits, free medical care, free education.
I am Alaska Native would like to have more of government

Can I just point out one small, but significant issue..... nothing in life is 'free'. What you are saying is that you want others to pay your social benefits, pay for your medical care and your education. Why?

 

[mudwhistle]

Somebody brought this up on another thread. Something to do with returning Palestine it's ancestral lands.

We should return all of the lands we bought from Russia, France, Mexico, and Native Americans...after they pay the market rate to us first.

 

[Foxfyre]

Is Athabasca for real?

I smell a rat.

 

[Athabasca]

First we will give a quote of former President Clinton.
Clinton

Today we have too many of these old schools, they simply fall apart, or so overcrowded that students are learning in trailers. No child should leave school, receiving a diploma, which he can not read.

Clinton. Message to Congress. January 19, 1999.

What will be the United States of America in 2010? Is it possible to collapse in the 21 century? We will try to consider the seemingly incredible scenario of possible collapse of the U.S. in the 21 century. This hypothetical "story about the future", which is based on some objective negative trends in contemporary American society.

From first to suggest that in 1998, at an international conference (attended by 43 countries) INFORMATION WAR in Linz (Austria).

We distinguish three driving forces of the collapse of the United States. The first relates to the area of trauma: the American society today is on the verge of a psychological disaster. The second is economic in nature. The introduction of Euro-currency undermined the U.S. financial system. Third - the U.S. desire for global dominance encounters more resistance in the world. Our main task - to offer a new way to comprehend the events and phenomena of the world.
Map USA

1. The first reason - a psychological one.

United States 10 years (1991 and 2001 were awarded.) Were the only superpower in the world. However, this ten-year U.S. global leadership also has been a source of negative trends in American society (a sharp increase in stress states among all categories of population, etc.), the main threat to the United States as a unified state.

The many emergencies in the U.S., sex scandals of President Clinton, shootings in schools and companies, suggests that American society is now on the verge of mental fracture. Began the moral decline of America.

Dirty sex scandal (MONIKAGEYT) increased the level of popularity of Clinton and 70% (although the actions of the president was clearly immoral). The scandal revealed ostentatious prosperity of American society, it sowed the seeds of discord. Through the efforts the media M. Lewinsky became a heroine. The book "History of Monica's" have been published and Monica earn millions of dollars. This scandal undermines the moral fabric of American society.

Stating the moral decline in the U.S., one of the smartest people in America, the owner of the magazine YS NYUZ END UOLRD RIPORT M. Zukerman said once in an editorial column under the heading Where are characteristic of ALL OUR VALUES: "Crime and drug abuse, family breakdown , a decline in the academic community, defacement of public places by drug addicts, gangsters and exhibitionist. Do not acceptable if we are now ... as part of our lives that we previously considered disgusting? ". Every week in the U.S. is almost 500 murders, more than 2000 rapes and more than 13,000 robberies.

E. Walsh in the Washington Post March 15, 1999 noted that U.S. prisons are 1.8 million people. Citing figures from the Ministry of Justice has the author writes: "From 1985 to 1998 number of prisoners increased from 744 thousand to almost three times, and now behind bars, each 150-th American. In the same period the number of offenders punished per 100 thousand people rose from 313 to 668.

The German newspaper RHEIN-Zeitung March 4, 1999, commenting on the criminal situation in the United States said: "Lethal injection, electrocution, gas chamber - it's not script a horror movie, but on the contrary, the sad reality in the country of unlimited possibilities."

According to the FBI 25% of girls under 12 being raped. According to the American organization "Women Against Pornography", involuntarily engage in sexual life 38% of girls under 13 years of age, and 70% of all American girls have been victims of attempted rape. In August 1998, the United States was arrested on 8-year-old boy - for the rape. It was the young criminal in U.S. history.

But in 2000 he became a 6-year-old boy - for the murder of 6-year-old girl. In the United States long ago ceased to be surprised murders with firearms, but the terrible incident took place at primary school not far from Detroit called in America a shock. A six year old first grader had quarreled with his peers, brought to school a gun and shot her. Kyle Rolland was shot in the neck, half an hour later she died. The only shot rang right in the classroom. In the presence of petrified with horror of children and teachers. It happened after a routine childhood quarrel.

About 25% of American men are homosexual. Each year about 200 thousand homosexuals to have a rally in Los Angeles.

The psychological and moral crisis could lead to the disintegration of the United States in the 21 century. U.S. on brink of internal psychological catastrophe, leading to collapse.

Here are just a few examples in the 1998 -1999 GG

March 24, four girls and a teacher were killed and 10 schoolchildren were injured in Arkansas two students 11 and 13 years.

April 24 at a school party in the state of Pennsylvania 14-year-old student killed a teacher. 28 апреля 14-year-old boy killed two students in the state of California. May 19 in Tennessee, 18-year-old A student shot a classmate in the schoolyard. May 21, 1998 America has once again shaken by a new message about the murder committed by teenagers. Springfield (Oregon) 15-year-old Kiplend Kinkel, who was expelled from school for carrying a firearm and opened fire from automatic rifles on classmates. One student was killed, 23 wounded. Prior to this, K. Kinkel killed his parents.

"Mafia in overcoats - so called themselves terrorists older students who arranged April 20, 1999 slaughter in high school American town of Littleton near Denver, Colorado. Breaking into the school cafeteria, the murderers in black uniforms and ski masks opened fire on students with automatic weapons and threw grenades. One of the students hid on the top floor of the building, where the phone telling the police about what happened. To the scene arrived special task force to combat terrorism. It was eventually freed and the hostages. According to verified information, the victims of "black overcoats, fell 25 students, 20 more were hospitalized with injuries of varying severity, including seven - in a critical condition. In the library premises were found dead two persons, which the local sheriff identified as the attackers. According to investigators, they committed suicide. Third accomplice managed to escape, but later he was arrested and taken into custody. Teachers with one voice they say they have not received any alarming signals about the behavior of killers. Among other details, the investigation drew attention to the fact that the mass murder committed in the 110-th birthday of Adolph Hitler. Crime in the suburbs of Denver - the most cruel of all the so-called "school shootings" in the history of America.

Radio Deutsche Welle on Jan. 27, 1999 quoted from the Washington Post on 27.1.99: "From 1986 to 1997 the number of abandoned children in the U.S. rose from half to three million (mostly children of drug addicts and alcoholics).

In addition, the U.S. is thriving violence. For example, in Washington, DC, killing 17 times more (per 100 people) than in European capitals.

October 8, 2002 at LENTA.RU was published information that the Washington sniper kills people just for fun. Over 16 hours of 2 and 3 October 2002 sniper killed five people in Montgomery County and one in Washington. October 4 was seriously injured a woman in Virginia. October 7 sniper seriously wounded a 13-year-old American in Washington. The firing continued. As a result, the sniper has killed 9 people and seriously wounded two. Total - 11 victims. All committed the Washington sniper killings and assassinations are similar scenario. Each time was chosen to innocent and defenseless victim in the open, but not too crowded place. The offender did ONLY ONE SHOT. According to the American police find the perpetrator would be extremely difficult. He was not found. It is assumed that this former U.S. military special operations forces. Charge was brought against two American blacks, but evidence from U.S. law enforcement is clearly not enough.
Memorial to Victims of War in Vietnam

Another indication of internal psychological crisis of Americans is the number of suicides among veterans of the Vietnam War. In Vietnam, killing around 58 thousand U.S. military personnel, and after hostilities had committed suicide some 120 thousand veterans of the war (and this is the presence of 196 special rehabilitation centers, state-funded).

The massacres in Los Angeles. This is article (author - Mercedes Ervas / Mercedes Hervas), in the newspaper "El Periodico" (Spain) 20 January 2003.

We present some excerpts from the article, which talks about the criminal debauchery in the United States.

* The wave of horrific violence, sweeping Los Angeles transformed the city into the capital crime of the United States. Ruthless gangs forced to wash the blood of the whole city, and the members of these groups have turned Los Angeles into the city, which in anything do not make laws, the commissioner of the Los Angeles Police Rick Caruso (Rick Caruso) has called "national terrorists."

* Living ... create district committees of joint action to meet, for example, for transporting children from their homes to and from schools on school buses. Chairman of one of these committees Timothy Watkins (Timothy Watkins) says: "Every day someone dies: a child of his parents or relatives." And such measures to protect schoolchildren did not exaggerated, especially in the South-Central, where by a stray bullet could die right on the bus stop. Or - in your own car, while waiting for her friend, who takes a Christmas gift: as happened with the 11-year-old Leslie Zepeda (Leslie Zepeda). Or on the way home from a basketball: it was so dead 18-year-old Andre Morgan (Andre Morgan) from the bullet of an unknown offender.

* We are all accustomed to the splendid forms of Los Angeles, where the fabulous Beverly Hills live multi-millionaires and movie stars. But there is another side to this tourist postcards: the tears of relatives, the daily funerals of victims of street violence and tangible everywhere fear, racial hatred and poverty, which periodically break out on the surface. More than half of all street gangs composed of immigrants from Latin America, for supremacy on the streets of the city, they fight with 274 gangs of Blacks and mixed groups composed of Asians and whites, whose number is unknown.

"There is nothing worse than these street groups, they are more dangerous than the mafia", - considers the head of the Los Angeles Police William Bratton. The bloodiest year for this American city has become the year 1992 - which killed 1,092 people, but, since 1996, in which the victims of street showdowns were 707 people last year was the most tragic. The reason for such a high level of crime is, of course, unemployment.

(Published online inosmi.ru: January 21, 2003).

Culture war erodes American society like corrosion. Representatives of various races and nationalities in the United States simply "do not mix." Alien mentality, alien culture is rejection, irritation. If the history of relations between certain ethnic clashes and knows the blood, then conflict is inevitable.

Today in America there is already a constantly smoldering ethnic strife in the formal equality and respect for "human rights", occasionally spilling into radical forms, including fire and blood; interracial strife between the white and black, white and red man, white and "yellow", Métis and all the rest.

In the U.S. there are about 500 extremist organizations, primarily the neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic and the separatist nature of the (separatist, pro-independence Texas even planned the assassination of President Clinton). Only in New York State operates more than 50 fascist organizations.

2.Vtoraya reason is economic in nature.
Decline of the U.S. dollar is getting closer

Today, U.S. foreign debt to foreign countries about 8 trillion, and in 1998 it was equal to 2.2 trillion dollars. And internal debt - already more than 20 trillion dollars. Gradually Eurocurrency destroy the financial system SShA.Bolee addition, in 2006, ASEAN countries and China, Japan, South Korea plans to introduce Asian regionlnuyu currency. Then the dollar will be needed only in the United States and its collapse will occur.

Financial turmoil leads to increased stress states among the American population. Now the U.S. stock market is more like a trivial pyramid in the last stage before the collapse. U.S. sitting on a financial bomb - the degree of overheated U.S. stock market is unprecedented. And forecasts for the near future pessimistic.

American economist (Hobbs, New Mexico), a member of the London Council of Economic Studies Lee Cheney argues that the United States - bankrupt. Americans should pay 47% of their income in taxes and, according to the Federal Reserve Bank, U.S. citizens should have to pay 81% of income to pay debts and interest, and that the tax burden is domestic debt. In order to pay the fine in the United States does not have enough money that banks publish, forcing Americans into financial slavery. Every year, domestic debt increased by $ 500 billion!

The book of American specialists in the management of Jackson Grayson Jr. and Carl Della O ^ "American management at the threshold of 21 st Century" was published in 1991 states that the U.S. is the biggest debtor in the world.

In 1986 external debt reached 264 billion dollars. Rapid transformation of the world's largest creditor in the world's largest debtor, which had occurred just five years, is staggering and has no precedent in history.

For every American (including infants), as calculated by American managers in 1990 for duty in 35 thousand dollars.

In their forecast, the external debt by 1995 had succeeded again to 700-900 billion dollars.

But he had already surpassed $ 7 trillion. dollars.

3.Tretya - U.S. desire for global domination sole encounters more resistance in the world.

Newt Dzhingrich - a senior scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and Peter Schweitzer - writer, author of "Reagan's War," the newspaper "Los Angeles Times" (USA) 21 January 2003 noted that public opinion polls conducted worldwide show that Many people outside the U.S. think Americans ambitious, aggressive, tends to dominate the nation. Often this attitude is attributed to U.S. foreign policy, which is said to have touched and continues to offend many people.

In the coming years geopolitical opportunities the United States will continue to decline.

An example of this is a failed spring of 2002, the American attempt to overthrow Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. In late 2002, the U.S. again made another attempt to overthrow Hugo Chavez. But, again unsuccessfully. But in 1973 the U.S. managed to quickly organize the overthrow of the legitimate Government of Allende in Chile. In Iraq, the U.S. already have a second Vietnam. And the elections in Iran in 2005, won the most anti-American kandidat.Uzbekistan demanded the withdrawal of U.S. military bases and Washington was forced to abide by the decisions of Tashkent. There is a growing weight and influence of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO-bastion of peace and stability in Asia.

U.S. was the only country in the world, not presented at the World Economic Forum in South Africa in 2002. Why? Because the world needs the U.S. to reduce pollution of the Earth. After the U.S. emit about 30% of all waste of the world and do not want to fight for the ecology of the planet.

The loss of the spacecraft U.S. SHUTTLE February 1, 2003 - another indicator of the sunset of the United States.
Space Shuttle 'Columbia'

The death of seven astronauts is primarily sincere feelings of regret and empathy. But this particular occasion to analyze the essence of this and other recent tragic events in the U.S. and around them.

(After the death of a shuttle at the end of February 2003 in the United States there have been two fire-tragedy in discotheques, that killed about 150 people, then a huge fire at the refinery in New York).

U.S. President George W. Bush is increasingly part of the role of crisis manager of one of the two superpowers. But in the other superpower (China) in recent years, there is no such tragedies in the United States. Conversely actively developing space program, already in 2009 is planned to establish a space station orbitlnuyu. Growth of the Chinese economy - the best in the world. Chinese army is mobile and ready for combat.

 

[namvet]

Washinton DC is now the Kremlin. hell give it to em as well. a 2fer

 

[editec]

Alaska was the ancestral territory of Russia.

No it wasn't the "ancestral territory of the RUS.

The early history of Russia, like those of many countries, is one of migrating peoples and ancient kingdoms. In fact, early Russia was not exactly "Russia," but a collection of cities that gradually coalesced into an empire. I n the early part of the ninth century, as part of the same great movement that brough the Danes to England and the Norsemen to Western Europe, a Scandanavian people known as the Varangians crossed the Baltic Sea and landed in Eastern Europe. The leader of the Varangians was the semilegendary warrior Rurik, who led his people in 862 to the city of Novgorod on the Volkhov River. Whether Rurik took the city by force or was invited to rule there, he certainly invested the city. From Novgorod, Rurik's successor Oleg extended the power of the city southward. In 882, he gained control of Kiev, a Slavic city that had arisen along the Dnepr River around the 5th century. Oleg's attainment of rule over Kiev marked the first establishment of a unified, dynastic state in the region. Kiev became the center of a trade route between Scandinavia and Constantinople, and Kievan Rus', as the empire came to be known, flourished for the next three hundred years.

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Russian America (Russian: Русская Америк&#1072 was the name of Russian possessions in the Americas from 1733 and 1867

In the future, Alaska will become part of Russia.

Possibly.

In the same way that it is possible that pigs might, some day, fly out of your ass, I suppose.

 

[hjmick]

Alaska was the ancestral territory of Russia.
In the future, Alaska will become part of Russia.

Yeah. Like I said on the other board you posted this on this morning...

Not gonna happen.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

In Russia, Chukotka people have more help from the government, receive social benefits, free medical care, free education.
I am Alaska Native would like to have more of government

Go to Russia.

Rossiya ego ne khochet. <----- Russian for "Russia doesn't want him"
Can we do unicode here?

 

[Tony_S]

Alaska was the ancestral territory of Russia.
In the future, Alaska will become part of Russia.

Tsar Alexander II sold it to the United States for 7.2 million dollars. If I remember my Russian history, he feared the empire could lose it Britain, especially after the whole Crimean War debacle in Europe.

Let's make a trade: Sakhalin Oblast for Alaska.

 

[concept]

A couple problems with this idiotic op.

1: Most of us are armed and are already pissed off.

2: We have a lot of big nasty bombs.

2: We would lay waste to anyone stupid enough to try anything like that.

 

[Tony_S]

A couple problems with this idiotic op.

1: Most of us are armed and are already pissed off.

2: We have a lot of big nasty bombs.

2: We would lay waste to anyone stupid enough to try anything like that.

To be fair, I don't think the leadership in the Russian Federation wants to reconquer or occupy Alaska. They already have plenty of problems with that douche in Georgia and NATO creeping up to their doorstep. If there is a world war, it will probably be over the fucking Crimea of all places.

 

[Brubricker]

America soon disconnected into six parts

OK, stop right there. What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Russian]

Alaska was the ancestral territory of Russia.
In the future, Alaska will become part of Russia.

Russia will definitely pick Alaska of course it will not happen soon in 50-100 years.
Contract for the sale was invalid because the price of 7.2 million dollars for this area is ridiculous.
I want to say to all Americans that the Russian memory of Alaska at the genetic level

 

[PatekPhilippe]

In Russia, Chukotka people have more help from the government, receive social benefits, free medical care, free education.
I am Alaska Native would like to have more of government

Move to Russia.

 

[Brubricker]

Contract for the sale was invalid because the price of 7.2 million dollars for this area is ridiculous.

Do you even know what a contract is?