Al Qaida threat worse under Obama

[sangha]

Your argument is you don't like republicans. That's not much of an argument. I'm not a republican so I don't have to defend anyone. BO had absolutely no executive experience and it shows. That's why his numbers are falling faster than a sky diver.

Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow. Grow up and get over it. You made a mistake. Learn from it.

I like plenty of Repubs...even a lot on this board. I don't like right-wing, neocon whackjob, loons. There is a difference.

No executive experience doesn't mean he's doing a bad job. Bush had none when he became governer or Texarse...

I didn't make any mistake. I'm not American so therefore didn't vote...

Of course Bush had no executive experience when he became Governor. That's where he earned his executive experience....DUH.

Obama has never built anything or governed anything.

If you're not American, then what are you?

Umm bush had executive experience before becoming gov of TX. He ran several companies into the ground before he became gov of TX

 

[Dr Grump]

Of course Bush had no executive experience when he became Governor. That's where he earned his executive experience....DUH.

Obama has never built anything or governed anything.

If you're not American, then what are you?

Oh, so you can 'learn' experience? Really? So why was Bush such a fucking disaster..

Where I'm from is irrelevant....but has already been answered by another poster...

 

[Jack Fate]

I like plenty of Repubs...even a lot on this board. I don't like right-wing, neocon whackjob, loons. There is a difference.

No executive experience doesn't mean he's doing a bad job. Bush had none when he became governer or Texarse...

I didn't make any mistake. I'm not American so therefore didn't vote...

Of course Bush had no executive experience when he became Governor. That's where he earned his executive experience....DUH.

Obama has never built anything or governed anything.

If you're not American, then what are you?

Umm bush had executive experience before becoming gov of TX. He ran several companies into the ground before he became gov of TX

Really? Several? Name them.

 

[asaratis]

Obama had the election purchased, Jillian. You just don't get it.

Worse?

Really? Worse than it was on Sept 10 2001 when Bush ignored all advanced warnings of the threat?

Bush didn't have as much to do with enabling 9-11 as your boy Slick Willy William Jefferson Clinton did. That pussy faced asshole didn't have the balls to take Osama off the map. Three times (at least) Slick Willy turned down the opportunity to can his ass. Three fuckin' times!

And casualties since 1 Jan 2009 are about 3% of what they were in the same time under Bush.

Don't count the 3000 that died at the hands of Al Ky-duh on 9-11 against Bush. You should stick them on Slick Willy and the goddamned Democrats.

Not that you should never believe what one of these goons says, but come on -- they're just shouting propoganda. The threat is not better or worse under Obama -- it's the same. And I do believe that under Obama, we've stopped quite a few terrorist attacks. Although, not enough. One person killed from a terrorist attack is one person too many, but not nearly as many as were killed on 9/11.

We have been stopping terrorist attacks all along since 9/11. One of the few things I think Bush gets some credit for is the fact that not even a minor attack was carried out on our soil in the 7 years after 9/11. Bush stood up and fought for the controversial tools needed to fight this fight, and once Obama got into office he didn't move to take the tools away now did he. Nope he is using him just the same.

Pure bullshit. Prior to 9-11, the Bush admin was making light of "President Clinton's obsession with Al Queda". Clinton had weekly cabinet level meetings with the people in charge of keeping track of the terrorists. The first such cabinet level meeting in the Bush admin was scheduled, ironically, for 11Sept01. Bush totally ignored the terrorist threat in spite of over 50 warnings from our own and foreign intel agencies, including that of Russia. Some of the warning were even specific as to the method and target.

Under our present President, we have been taking out Al Qaeda people publicly in Sudan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. And, yes, there has been collateral damage, innocents whose only crime was being related to and in the same house as the terrorists. But how many people were killed in Iraq when invaded that nation on the basis of lies. And Iraq had nothing at all to do with 9-11.

The Bush admin allowed, by negligence, 3000 Americans to be murdered on 9-11. Then they allowed the mastermind of that mass murder to get away. Hell of a hero you have there.

Lord, you people are deranged!

The US Congress voted for the invasion. Every war costs American lives. Blame congress. Anything else?

US Congress voted based on dodgy intel from Bush puppets. Anything else?

I believe Clinton puppets would be more correct.

I've read enough of this shit to realize that history is repeating itself right before my very eyes. You brain-dead liberals have no clue....NO FUCKIN' CLUE!!

Barack Hussein Obama is a goddamned Marxist Muslim that wishes the United States to turn into a fucking socialist nation governed by the elite members of his personal staff of corrupt liberal assholes. He is doing everything within his legal ( and illegal) power to make that happen.

There are many blind, deaf, kool-aid drinking numbnuts that believe he is Christ, the Savior. What a fucking joke...Obama!

 

[Dr Grump]

Umm bush had executive experience before becoming gov of TX. He ran several companies into the ground before he became gov of TX

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sangha again.

Not only that, but did he do that great of a job in Texarse?

 

[Jack Fate]

Of course Bush had no executive experience when he became Governor. That's where he earned his executive experience....DUH.

Obama has never built anything or governed anything.

If you're not American, then what are you?

Oh, so you can 'learn' experience? Really? So why was Bush such a fucking disaster..

Where I'm from is irrelevant....but has already been answered by another poster...

Of course you learn experience. Experience is living and learning. Are you really this thick or are you putting me on?

 

[Dr Grump]

I've read enough of this shit to realize that history is repeating itself right before my very eyes. You brain-dead liberals have no clue....NO FUCKIN' CLUE!!

Barack Hussein Obama is a goddamned Marxist Muslim that wishes the United States to turn into a fucking socialist nation governed by the elite members of his personal staff of corrupt liberal assholes. He is doing everything within his legal ( and illegal) power to make that happen.

There are many blind, deaf, kool-aid drinking numbnuts that believe he is Christ, the Savior. What a fucking joke...Obama!

What history is repeating itself? Vietnam viz-a-viz Iraq? Sheet, I was saying such on other messageboards just after 9-11 when anybody with even half a brain knew Bush's puppetmasters saw that tragedy as an opening to attack Saddam.

Obama is nothing like a Marxist or a Muslim. You know nothing of that political system or religion if you honestly think so.

You want corruption? How about getting all the energy power brokers in one room with the Executive Branch of your govt to decide energy policy with no public oversight?

I could go on...

...but at the end of the day Asa, the biggest problem in America is your political system. It's totally fucked.....

 

[sangha]

Of course Bush had no executive experience when he became Governor. That's where he earned his executive experience....DUH.

Obama has never built anything or governed anything.

If you're not American, then what are you?

Umm bush had executive experience before becoming gov of TX. He ran several companies into the ground before he became gov of TX

Really? Several? Name them.

Arbusto for one. It went busto!

 

[elvis]

Oh bullshit. Gore wanted to count only the districts favorable to him and the USSC stopped it because it was illegal to do that. No delusions there.

The NY Times did a recount and even they said Bush won. But, go ahead. I know it makes you fell better to think that Bush was appointed. You like those catch phrases.

the fact Bush would have won had they done a recount and the fact that Gore wanted only those districts he thought he should win counted has nothing to do with the supreme court decision.

The USSC decision did not "appoint" Bush. It stopped the recount. If Gore had won his home state of Tennesee then Florida would not have mattered. Any candidate for President who cannot win his home state is pretty pathetic if you ask me.

again nothing to do with the subject matter. If we didn't have a screwed up voting system, Gore would have won with or without Florida's electoral votes.

 

[jillian]

Oh bullshit. Gore wanted to count only the districts favorable to him and the USSC stopped it because it was illegal to do that. No delusions there.

The NY Times did a recount and even they said Bush won. But, go ahead. I know it makes you fell better to think that Bush was appointed. You like those catch phrases.

i think you don't want to argue the holding of bush v gore with me. but if you do, feel free to talk about the holding of the case and show where i'm wrong about that holding.

the rightwingnut spew that you responded with doesn't interest me and is irrelevant to the appointment of bush as president.

 

[Dr Grump]

Oh, so you can 'learn' experience? Really? So why was Bush such a fucking disaster..

Where I'm from is irrelevant....but has already been answered by another poster...

Of course you learn experience. Experience is living and learning. Are you really this thick or are you putting me on?[/QUOTE]


Read my posts. Do you think I'm thick?

 

[Jack Fate]

The US Congress voted for the invasion. Every war costs American lives. Blame congress. Anything else?

US Congress voted based on dodgy intel from Bush puppets. Anything else?

Here are some quotes by Demoracts before Bush becamse President. Now sit down and shut up.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

 

[Jack Fate]

Oh, so you can 'learn' experience? Really? So why was Bush such a fucking disaster..

Where I'm from is irrelevant....but has already been answered by another poster...

Of course you learn experience. Experience is living and learning. Are you really this thick or are you putting me on?

Read my posts. Do you think I'm thick?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

 

[jillian]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sangha again.

no worries. i got that for ya.

as for how bush did in texas. he wasn't terrible. but then the governor in texas is less powerful than the legislature from what i've seen.

and he was actually a moderate then. his rightwingnuttiness didn't come out til he decided to pander to the lunatic fringe of his party in the pursuit of karl rove's permanent republican majority.

don't think that worked out so good for them, though.

 

[Dr Grump]

The US Congress voted for the invasion. Every war costs American lives. Blame congress. Anything else?

US Congress voted based on dodgy intel from Bush puppets. Anything else?

Here are some quotes by Demoracts before Bush becamse President. Now sit down and shut up.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

Oh God (puts heads in hands).
Do I have to go through this shit every time a new neocon joins this board. God, this is so tedious...

I'll say this to you, you fucking moron and this is all I'll say on it. I'll even put it in capitals:

DID THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION INVADE IRAQ?

If you answer in the negative, then STFU....

 

[sangha]

The US Congress voted for the invasion. Every war costs American lives. Blame congress. Anything else?

US Congress voted based on dodgy intel from Bush puppets. Anything else?

Here are some quotes by Demoracts before Bush becamse President. Now sit down and shut up.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

And none of those dem quotes say we should invade Iraq

 

[Jack Fate]

US Congress voted based on dodgy intel from Bush puppets. Anything else?

Here are some quotes by Demoracts before Bush becamse President. Now sit down and shut up.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

Oh God (puts heads in hands).
Do I have to go through this shit every time a new neocon joins this board. God, this is so tedious...

I'll say this to you, you fucking moron and this is all I'll say on it. I'll even put it in capitals:

DID THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION INVADE IRAQ?

If you answer in the negative, then STFU....

If Clinton had been President on 9/11 he would have invaded Iraq also. The quotes I provided for you show that. Yes, you're thick.

 

[Dr Grump]

Oh, so you can 'learn' experience? Really? So why was Bush such a fucking disaster..

Where I'm from is irrelevant....but has already been answered by another poster...

Of course you learn experience. Experience is living and learning. Are you really this thick or are you putting me on?

Read my posts. Do you think I'm thick?

Yes.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't surprise me....

...an intellectual mental midget thinks I'm stupid..

...the guy lost in the 1770s thinks I'm a dumb arse

...the guy who thinks quoting Dems on Saddam somehow validates Bush's decision to invade Iraq, doesn't think I'm the full quid..


Thanks for playing....

 

[elvis]

The US Congress voted for the invasion. Every war costs American lives. Blame congress. Anything else?

US Congress voted based on dodgy intel from Bush puppets. Anything else?

Here are some quotes by Demoracts before Bush becamse President. Now sit down and shut up.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

saddam wanted everyone to think he had WMDs. Still, when a decision is made to go to war, the CIC bears most of the responsibility. He is, after all, the decider.

 

[Jack Fate]

US Congress voted based on dodgy intel from Bush puppets. Anything else?

Here are some quotes by Demoracts before Bush becamse President. Now sit down and shut up.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

And none of those dem quotes say we should invade Iraq

Those quotes reveal a desire for regime change. 9/11 provided the excuse.