P F Tinmore
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Nice duck.Links?The only peaceful solution that Tinmore sees is the total elimination of the Jews.
Well, of Israel really. Which is more than a third of all Jews in the world.
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Nice duck.Links?The only peaceful solution that Tinmore sees is the total elimination of the Jews.
Well, of Israel really. Which is more than a third of all Jews in the world.
LOL, your stormfront turd...
Does anyone seriously have any interest in engaging with this fucking idiot? Just keep messaging the moderators that this pos be banned. THAT is why it keeps posting so frequently these threads/posts, it knows it is on borrowed time and will be banned.
This time however, I am working with the mods for a system to prevent a sock puppet fucking turd like this from coming back with a new ID. It is one of the stormer internet trolls stampeding into public forums, these c-nts do this as long as they can until they get banned and then move onto the next one.
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That said as well, how bout:
Why was Hitler feeding, clothing and providing medicine to those he was exterminating?
Why did he bother having death camps when he could have just shot them?
He had them locked up in camps much like the Israelis have the Palestinians in Gaza. Why not just bomb them? The Israelis bomb Palestinians in their concentration camp. Especially as the allies were bombing Europe?
Without a hermetically sealed chamber, why weren't the nazis exterminating themselves?
And what of that multi-million mainstream revision that is now known for over 20 years? You still buying the cabalistic 6 million? I think you mentioned that you weren't. Are you closer to the Red Cross' figures?
Yes, labor camps are fact. Everyone agrees here.Dear louie888
From what I understand, the camps were used to get as much labor out of the captives to process their own materials , much like corporate raiders will bleed out all assets out of a hostile company takeover before crashing it afterwards
If by elimination you mean death, I have yet to see evidence of that.The 6 million killed has been clarified as closer to 4 million Jews and 2 million mixed people of Catholic Gypsy and other "undesirables" thrown in for elimination.
I have checked credible sources, please, and all of the above can certainly be verified.The abuse and experimentation / torture done to captives has been documented and reported by witnesses/survivors. If you don't believe all the propaganda, at least check with credible sources . I know good friends of PETER LOTH who attest he is an honest man trying to use his experiences to teach others the healing power of forgiveness after he was abused before and after being in concentration camp where he was physically subjected to painful torture .
This is why it sickens me to see these show trials of some 90 year old German man who was a guard at Auschwitz for example.Because he is a forgiving man his message comes out differently , so you might see more truth and honesty about the human side of the people who did this who weren't mobsters but people like you and me running the camps.
Dear louie888Thank-you, emily for that logical and thoughtful post. That is rare here with these difficult topics and these nonstop trolls. I am pretty much in agreement with what you posted. Just a few points for clarification...
Yes, labor camps are fact. Everyone agrees here.Dear louie888
From what I understand, the camps were used to get as much labor out of the captives to process their own materials , much like corporate raiders will bleed out all assets out of a hostile company takeover before crashing it afterwards
If by elimination you mean death, I have yet to see evidence of that.The 6 million killed has been clarified as closer to 4 million Jews and 2 million mixed people of Catholic Gypsy and other "undesirables" thrown in for elimination.
I have checked credible sources, please, and all of the above can certainly be verified.The abuse and experimentation / torture done to captives has been documented and reported by witnesses/survivors. If you don't believe all the propaganda, at least check with credible sources . I know good friends of PETER LOTH who attest he is an honest man trying to use his experiences to teach others the healing power of forgiveness after he was abused before and after being in concentration camp where he was physically subjected to painful torture .
This is why it sickens me to see these show trials of some 90 year old German man who was a guard at Auschwitz for example.Because he is a forgiving man his message comes out differently , so you might see more truth and honesty about the human side of the people who did this who weren't mobsters but people like you and me running the camps.
After all is said and done, this whole thing boils down to 3 basic aspects of the official narrative.
1) The cabalistic 6 million figure is ridiculous for many reasons and even the 4 million figure you suggested far exceeds the numbers the Red Cross put out. Beyond that, for decades prior to WWII, the Jewish press was crying about 6 million Jews and a holocaust and beyond that, this is not the first holocaust that Jews have lied about outright.
2) There is no credible evidence for the idea that millions were being marched off to gas chambers. The gassing stories of the official narrative are impossible based on their own story. If I could be so bold, what appears to have happened is that at soem time AFTER THE WAR, delousing chambers which were obviously there to keep Jews alive got turned into homicidal gas chambers and when enough well respected historians and then people in general started pointing this out, the Jews pushed for these so called holocaust denial laws as a means to silence historians and to keep their lies alive.
3) No extermination plan was ever found. We have Plan Dalet which was the zionists plan to exterminate the Palestinians, but nothing like that from the nazis. Somehow, like above, after the war, the "final solution" turned from one of deportation to one of extermination.
I would say beyond suspect.Dear louie888
I'm grateful we have free speech here to discuss what has been documented or not. I am dismayed that such right to question would be criminalized, especially when that backfires and makes the matter seem even more suspect!
All true, of course. Here is the problem. No sane person ever denies any of that. Anyone who claims that there were no mass graves or piles of corpses are just as much liars as the story tellers who gave us the official narrative. To be clear, anyone who denies that is either crazy or a paid shill poisoning the well.In general I thought there were records of mass graves found, and photos of piles of corpses. I understand the records of property confiscated from Jewish families...
I never said nobody kept records (someone else here perhaps?) and we have a reasonably good idea in this area from multiple sources.You are right that nobody kept records of all the population back in WWII like we do now. We don't know the exact names and numbers of all soldiers lost in the war or MIA. And same with all the Jewish people and families who disappeared, either to hide in safety or taken to camps and then who knows what the actual numbers are. We don't know the full extent and population in Japan affected by the atomic bombings.
We can only estimate.
I dunno what this has to do with the topic as again, no sane person is arguing that the Jew's wealth and property was not confiscated.Maybe if we agreed to undertake all the research to identify owning families whose wealth and property was confiscated and redistributed , that might serve as a means to support exact research to determine the numbers affected, whether they fled to safety or were killed or missing
They object to any digging were the supposed mass graves were in Treblinka, yet let their paid "archeologist" shill go there and pretend to dig there when she was actually digging in a well marked Christian cemetery across the way and outside the walls of the camp/train station.I don't think the Jewish would object to research serving both purposes.
1. You're just a run of the mill antisemite. No Orthodox Jew anti-zionist would post uncontexted Talmud quotes.louie888 to Wrongheaded Bimbo Emilynghiem who just makes stuff up said:..
If by elimination you mean death, I have yet to see evidence of that....
After all is said and done, this whole thing boils down to 3 basic aspects of the official narrative.
1) The cabalistic 6 million figure is ridiculous for many reasons and even the 4 million figure you suggested far exceeds the numbers the Red Cross put out. ...
2) There is no credible evidence for the idea that millions were being marched off to gas chambers. ...
3) No extermination plan was ever found. We have Plan Dalet which was the zionists plan to exterminate the Palestinians, but nothing like that from the nazis. Somehow, like above, after the war, the "final solution" turned from one of deportation to one of extermination.
...the exclusion of Zundel was itself not a First Amendment violation. But, based on Ramirez-Rivero — and certainly the office’s description of Ramirez-Rivero — it appears to have been a violation of American immigration law. And in the process of misapplying Ramirez-Rivero, the office seems to have erroneously concluded that Holocaust denial and the expression of anti-Semitic sentiments would be “deemed criminal by United States standards.” That strikes me as mistaken, though I’d be glad to hear any corrections or clarifications from readers who are more knowledgeable about immigration law than I am.Al Nakba Denial vs Holocaust Denial, what's the Difference