CivilLiberty
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UsaPride said:Are you serious?
If I'm hiding shit in my bra, then I'm sure somebody will find it if they're patting me down. That could save the lives of the passengers and crew.
Oh please. What "dangerous thing" would you have stuffed in your bra that would be found by a pat down? Ricin? Ricin could be contained in a gel pack of a "water bra" and not detected during a pat down. What else? It's a spurious argument - one could far more easily hide a plastic (Polycarbonite) knife in carry on luggage that would go undetected in an Xray or even hand search. A pat down is meaningless, and only serves to unreasonably invade a person's privacy.
Cite one case or instance where an unmotivated pat down search turned up something that would endanger the passengers or crew. And by unmotivated, I mean a search that was done without even the suspicion raised from a set-off metal detector
UsaPride said:Doesn't this kind of stuff happen now as it did before 9/11? Racist cops inflicting racism? Mean ass people claiming you did something you didn't?
Yes, of course it has, and this is proof as to why we must INCREASE not DECREASE civil liberties. Without the protections of civil liberties these egregious harms can't be undone.
UsaPride said:I don't even know how to reply to this. I'm completely dumbfounded!CivilLiberty said:To throw these rights away for the misguided illusion of greater security would be a most serious crime indeed.
That's sad to hear. Dumbfounded? It is this nation's tradition of civil liberties that allowed us to grow as a society. To throw them away in the face of adversity is a crime.
I'm dumbfounded that people are so willing to surrender their rights for the illusion of security - because an illusion is all it is.
Regards,
Andy