Agnosticism

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Elutherian, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. Elutherian
    Offline

    Elutherian BadMother****er

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    345
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +53
    Doesn't it just make sense to admit we don't actually know if there is a God? Because really, how can we know?
     
  2. Old Rocks
    Offline

    Old Rocks Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    46,471
    Thanks Received:
    5,416
    Trophy Points:
    1,840
    Location:
    Portland, Ore.
    Ratings:
    +10,315
    How do you presume to know whether or not other people really know whether there is diety or not? As an agnostic, I can only state that I do not know, I cannot state what other people know or don't know.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  3. manu1959
    Offline

    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2004
    Messages:
    13,761
    Thanks Received:
    1,625
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    california
    Ratings:
    +1,626
    religion is based on faith.....

    there are those that believe....

    those that don't know what to believe....

    and those who are adamant that they don't believe.....


    faith is an interesting thing….. einstein first thought up e=mc2 while working at the patent office…..but had to wait two years until he could get into a lab and prove it….he had faith…..

    one day … everyone will have a chance to get into the “lab” and test their faith…..
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  4. AllieBaba
    Offline

    AllieBaba BANNED

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2007
    Messages:
    33,778
    Thanks Received:
    3,648
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +3,650
    I know because the bible states it, the holy spirit confirms it, and my own experience supports the existence of God.
     
  5. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    48,710
    Thanks Received:
    7,230
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +20,760
    If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice - Neil Peart
     
  6. AllieBaba
    Offline

    AllieBaba BANNED

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2007
    Messages:
    33,778
    Thanks Received:
    3,648
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +3,650
    Exactly!

    I love Rush. Limelight is a fabulous song.
     
  7. JD_2B
    Offline

    JD_2B Little Vixen

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2009
    Messages:
    1,092
    Thanks Received:
    118
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Nunya, Wudjathink
    Ratings:
    +118
    I am agnostic, and it is not in the same sense you are referring to- I am Bible agnostic- I believe in a divine creator, I just do not believe that everything that was said by Him/them is accurately portrayed in the Bible.

    But to answer your question- how can we know anything? A domino trail needs a finger to flick it, in order to see the effect.. I still ask "who created the creator?" but that is a question I understand I will never have an answer to.
     
  8. manifold
    Offline

    manifold Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2008
    Messages:
    48,710
    Thanks Received:
    7,230
    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    Location:
    your dreams
    Ratings:
    +20,760
    Hey Allie, you do know that quote is from Freewill right?

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement for theism.
     
  9. Elutherian
    Offline

    Elutherian BadMother****er

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    345
    Thanks Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings:
    +53
    Well, I was raised a Baptist, so I know where the religious people are coming from. But I just don't think it makes any sense... seems like people are deluding themselves to me.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. Avatar4321
    Offline

    Avatar4321 Diamond Member Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    70,542
    Thanks Received:
    8,161
    Trophy Points:
    2,070
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Ratings:
    +12,157
    How can we know?

    We can talk with Him. Experience Him. See the fruits of the Spirit. Recieve Revelation. Be taught unspeakable things. Be taught by ministering angels. Perform miracles in His name.

    How can we know He isnt there? We cant, short of being a god ourself.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1

Share This Page