Again the CBO says the stim pack worked

[Truthmatters]

look don't waste your time, if something didn't react in an effect to input that is measurable, its becasue they didn't use enough of it, if you ask how they know this ? they tell you to prove it didn't...

and when you show them proof, say, medicare going from a projected 12 B in cost to 98 Billion they make every excuse in the book.....you see; your measured proof isn't ever good enough, so as I said you're wasting your time. Thats progressive gov. thinking.

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?

The Stimulus was justified as being what would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%.

When something does not achieve the stated objective, that is proof that it is a FAILURE.

Please go get the video of Obama making this claim so we can verify the date?

 

[Salt Jones]

look don't waste your time, if something didn't react in an effect to input that is measurable, its becasue they didn't use enough of it, if you ask how they know this ? they tell you to prove it didn't...

and when you show them proof, say, medicare going from a projected 12 B in cost to 98 Billion they make every excuse in the book.....you see; your measured proof isn't ever good enough, so as I said you're wasting your time. Thats progressive gov. thinking.

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?

see tha chart that been posted here so many times its almost annoying now, that was a chart based on romers/summers plan and blessed by Obama.


now; please prove that it did.

I don't need to prove that it did, you have to prove that it didn't. Where would the economy be today if the stimulus had never been used?

 

[Trajan]

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?[/QUOT

The Stimulus was justified as being what would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%.

When something does not achieve the stated objective, that is proof that it is a FAILURE.

Was that the sole "stated objective" of the stimulus?

Would unemployment be lower today if we never had a stimulus?

I have no idea. the plan they put forth has failed. you are asking a question that cannot be answered....

AND that does not mean you get to say yes it did.......

Would states be better off without the use of stimulus funds?

who cares thats not what we are discussing is it?

 

[boedicca]

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?[/QUOT

The Stimulus was justified as being what would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%.

When something does not achieve the stated objective, that is proof that it is a FAILURE.

Was that the sole "stated objective" of the stimulus? Would unemployment be lower today if we never had a stimulus? Would states be better off without the use of stimulus funds?

Did unemployment peak at 8%...no. For the majority of the country, that is an EPIC FAIL.

But if you mean did the Stimulus achieve the objective of propping up Public Employee Unions as a payoff for campaign support, then in that limited sense, it was a success.

 

[The Rabbi]

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?[/QUOT

The Stimulus was justified as being what would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%.

When something does not achieve the stated objective, that is proof that it is a FAILURE.

Was that the sole "stated objective" of the stimulus? Would unemployment be lower today if we never had a stimulus? Would states be better off without the use of stimulus funds?

Was there another stated objective of the stimulus?
Oh yeah. There was:
Obama: Stimulus plan will cut power bills - Politics - White House - msnbc.com
Obama proposed that energy bills would be lower. They're not.
He proposed that it would increase port security. It didn't.
He proposed that we would have more schools. We don't.

Looks liek the stimulus was a complete and total failure, based on the claims made for it at the time.

 

[Truthmatters]

Did you find that video of Obama making that claim yet?

 

[Truthmatters]

http://otrans.3cdn.net/ee40602f9a7d8172b8_ozm6bt5oi.pdf


can you see the date on this?

1/9/2009

 

[The Rabbi]

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?

The Stimulus was justified as being what would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%.

When something does not achieve the stated objective, that is proof that it is a FAILURE.

Please go get the video of Obama making this claim so we can verify the date?

Go do it yourself, you worthless troll.
Are you satisfied that the CBO report is not based on actual events yet?

 

[Trajan]

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?

see tha chart that been posted here so many times its almost annoying now, that was a chart based on romers/summers plan and blessed by Obama.


now; please prove that it did.

I don't need to prove that it did,

yes actually you do, you or he whom you sppt. has laid out the benchmark. The measurement has been made.

as I said twice now the plan put forth by obama whose yardstick was keeping unemployment below 8% and hasn't....I have my data, its 9.1% right now...IF the plan worked we would be at 8%...correct?

you have to prove that it didn't. Where would the economy be today if the stimulus had never been used?

see above.

 

[Truthmatters]

Obama signs stimulus into law - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

The video doesnt exist because he never said it.

 

[daveman]

Typical leftists, expecting other people to do their work for them.

 

[boedicca]

Can you prove that the stimulus didn't work? What would the numbers be without the simulus?

The Stimulus was justified as being what would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%.

When something does not achieve the stated objective, that is proof that it is a FAILURE.

Please go get the video of Obama making this claim so we can verify the date?

You sad little booby. Do you ever pay attention to the news? The infamous claim was made in "The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" issued by the White House.

You can...well literate people can...download and read a copy of it:

The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan

 

[boedicca]

Obama signs stimulus into law - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

The video doesnt exist because he never said it.

His economic team published it in a White Paper, you intellectually dishonest piece of filth.

 

[Trajan]

The Stimulus was justified as being what would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%.

When something does not achieve the stated objective, that is proof that it is a FAILURE.

Please go get the video of Obama making this claim so we can verify the date?

You sad little booby. Do you ever pay attention to the news? The infamous claim was made in "The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" issued by the White House.

You can...well literate people can...download and read a copy of it:

The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan

I am really surprised you looked that up for the mutt, I mean if you have to post this for woof, she has absolutely no business even positing this thread.

next she'll woof he didn't say what he said.....he meant something else...

 

[Truthmatters]

As Stimulus-Package Debate Continues in Congress, New-Look Bank Bailout Plan is Set to Debut This Week - Money Morning

Now realise when that report was already done and being submitted that the congress had not finailised the bill and its contents yet.


The congress CHANGED the content of the law.

How can you blame a projection of ONE bill that was NEVER passed for the results of a DIFFERENT one that the congress passed?


You people are lying about this Obama promise and anyone with a brain knows you are lying.

 

[boedicca]

I didn't do it for her. I did it for anyone who might be gullible and fall for her lies.

Here's an article from Time in 2009 referencing the White Paper. Interesting how Romer and Summers have bailed form the White House.


Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%. It hasn't quite worked out that way. Last month, the jobless rate in the U.S. hit 9.5%, the highest level it has reached since 1983. (See 10 ways your job will change.)

The two advisers who wrote the paper, Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein, went on to land key jobs in the Obama Administration. Romer is the head of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, and Bernstein is the chief economist and economic-policy adviser to Vice President Joe Biden. And the stimulus bill that both economists championed became law in mid-February. What has not come to pass, however, is the boom in job creation that Romer and Bernstein predicted. A little over a month ago, the Administration said the stimulus bill had created or saved 150,000 jobs. That's a far cry from the 3 million to 4 million jobs that Romer and Bernstein foresaw back in January....


Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME

 

[boedicca]

As Stimulus-Package Debate Continues in Congress, New-Look Bank Bailout Plan is Set to Debut This Week - Money Morning

Now realise when that report was already done and being submitted that the congress had not finailised the bill and its contents yet.


The congress CHANGED the content of the law.

How can you blame a projection of ONE bill that was NEVER passed for the results of a DIFFERENT one that the congress passed?


You people are lying about this Obama promise and anyone with a brain knows you are lying.

You are a DISGUSTING FILTHY LIAR WHO LIES.

 

[Truthmatters]

I didn't do it for her. I did it for anyone who might be gullible and fall for her lies.

Here's an article from Time in 2009 referencing the White Paper. Interesting how Romer and Summers have bailed form the White House.


Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%. It hasn't quite worked out that way. Last month, the jobless rate in the U.S. hit 9.5%, the highest level it has reached since 1983. (See 10 ways your job will change.)

The two advisers who wrote the paper, Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein, went on to land key jobs in the Obama Administration. Romer is the head of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, and Bernstein is the chief economist and economic-policy adviser to Vice President Joe Biden. And the stimulus bill that both economists championed became law in mid-February. What has not come to pass, however, is the boom in job creation that Romer and Bernstein predicted. A little over a month ago, the Administration said the stimulus bill had created or saved 150,000 jobs. That's a far cry from the 3 million to 4 million jobs that Romer and Bernstein foresaw back in January....


Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME

IT was not the same bill the congress passed


You know it and yet you still lie

 

[boedicca]

Liar.

 

[Salt Jones]

As Stimulus-Package Debate Continues in Congress, New-Look Bank Bailout Plan is Set to Debut This Week - Money Morning

Now realise when that report was already done and being submitted that the congress had not finailised the bill and its contents yet.


The congress CHANGED the content of the law.

How can you blame a projection of ONE bill that was NEVER passed for the results of a DIFFERENT one that the congress passed?


You people are lying about this Obama promise and anyone with a brain knows you are lying.

You are a DISGUSTING FILTHY LIAR WHO LIES.

If they are a "DISGUSTING FILTHY LIAR", can't we assume that they lie?