After the obamacare ruling will this be possible?

[auditor0007]

It would never happen. Cars these days run so efficiently you could pretty much turn your car on, close the garage door, go to sleep and wake up in the morning with maybe a headache at the worst.
Not to mention big oil completely owns the GOP and many of the democrats as well. If any kind of legislation was even in the slightest chance of coming up for a vote, you would see the Koch's and other big oil hacks raising holy hell and putting on the biggest lobby effort in history.

It would never happen

The supreme court just ruled the government can tax people any way they so choose too. Try again.

Let me explain this to you in its most basic form. In the end, the government is the people. The people elect representatives to make laws and to decide how much we will be taxed. If the people don't like the laws that those representatives pass, then the people vote the fuckers out and elect those who will right laws that they do like. So, if we are going to be taxed more for anything, it will come with the approval of voters. Just because some of the people don't like a certain law doesn't mean the government can do whatever it wants. Now go cry about the boogieman government to someone with a quarter who cares.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Now what would stop the government from controlling the numbers of miles you put on your car in the fight to control global warming?

Who is sponsoring that bill?

I actually see this happening if obama is elected.

No you can't.

It was a question nothing about a sponsored bill. obamacare did make it possible to happen. But I did a search after I started this threads and found this

Mileage tax a "practical option," budget analysts tell Congress - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Democrats still trying to push new mileage tax « Hot Air

How did Obamacare make it possible to happen?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It would never happen. Cars these days run so efficiently you could pretty much turn your car on, close the garage door, go to sleep and wake up in the morning with maybe a headache at the worst.
Not to mention big oil completely owns the GOP and many of the democrats as well. If any kind of legislation was even in the slightest chance of coming up for a vote, you would see the Koch's and other big oil hacks raising holy hell and putting on the biggest lobby effort in history.

It would never happen

The supreme court just ruled the government can tax people any way they so choose too. Try again.

Let me explain this to you in its most basic form. In the end, the government is the people. The people elect representatives to make laws and to decide how much we will be taxed. If the people don't like the laws that those representatives pass, then the people vote the fuckers out and elect those who will right laws that they do like. So, if we are going to be taxed more for anything, it will come with the approval of voters. Just because some of the people don't like a certain law doesn't mean the government can do whatever it wants. Now go cry about the boogieman government to someone with a quarter who cares.

Now let me explain it to you.
obamacare was ruled a tax the supreme court ruled the government can tax people anyway it chooses to. Because of global warming was must cut CO2 gases and to do that there must be less driving so the government will have to invoke a mileage tax. I do hope that helped.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who is sponsoring that bill?



No you can't.

It was a question nothing about a sponsored bill. obamacare did make it possible to happen. But I did a search after I started this threads and found this

Mileage tax a "practical option," budget analysts tell Congress - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Democrats still trying to push new mileage tax « Hot Air

How did Obamacare make it possible to happen?

The mandate was ruled unconstitutional, making it a tax made it Constitutional do I have to draw the lines for you also?

 

[auditor0007]

The supreme court just ruled the government can tax people any way they so choose too. Try again.

Let me explain this to you in its most basic form. In the end, the government is the people. The people elect representatives to make laws and to decide how much we will be taxed. If the people don't like the laws that those representatives pass, then the people vote the fuckers out and elect those who will right laws that they do like. So, if we are going to be taxed more for anything, it will come with the approval of voters. Just because some of the people don't like a certain law doesn't mean the government can do whatever it wants. Now go cry about the boogieman government to someone with a quarter who cares.

Now let me explain it to you.
obamacare was ruled a tax the supreme court ruled the government can tax people anyway it chooses to. Because of global warming was must cut CO2 gases and to do that there must be less driving so the government will have to invoke a mileage tax. I do hope that helped.

I got it; it ain't fucking rocket science. If we elect representatives that support such a tax, then we will get such a tax. Of course, if we don't want them to do that, then we can make certain they don't by voting for representatives who would not vote for such a tax. How difficult is this for you?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Let me explain this to you in its most basic form. In the end, the government is the people. The people elect representatives to make laws and to decide how much we will be taxed. If the people don't like the laws that those representatives pass, then the people vote the fuckers out and elect those who will right laws that they do like. So, if we are going to be taxed more for anything, it will come with the approval of voters. Just because some of the people don't like a certain law doesn't mean the government can do whatever it wants. Now go cry about the boogieman government to someone with a quarter who cares.

Now let me explain it to you.
obamacare was ruled a tax the supreme court ruled the government can tax people anyway it chooses to. Because of global warming was must cut CO2 gases and to do that there must be less driving so the government will have to invoke a mileage tax. I do hope that helped.

I got it; it ain't fucking rocket science. If we elect representatives that support such a tax, then we will get such a tax. Of course, if we don't want them to do that, then we can make certain they don't by voting for representatives who would not vote for such a tax. How difficult is this for you?

So mileage tax here we come if obama wins.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

It was a question nothing about a sponsored bill. obamacare did make it possible to happen. But I did a search after I started this threads and found this

Mileage tax a "practical option," budget analysts tell Congress - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Democrats still trying to push new mileage tax « Hot Air

How did Obamacare make it possible to happen?

The mandate was ruled unconstitutional, making it a tax made it Constitutional do I have to draw the lines for you also?

You didn't answer the question.

 

[tererun]

For those who find great satisfaction that obamacare passed because it was ruled a tax, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT.
The passage of obamacare was to help with the cost of medical care. Now what would stop the government from controlling the numbers of miles you put on your car in the fight to control global warming? You are only allowed to drive a certain numbers of miles or you will be taxed on every mile that you go over your pre-approved set mileage plan.

I actually see this happening if obama is elected. Can you afford the addition tax?

First thing to explain to chicken little, Obama cannot pass a law without congress, so it has to get by congress first. I really doubt you have anything to worry about.

Second, Obama bailed out GM. I highly doubt he will attempt to get a law passed that would be so bad for the automotive industry.

Now, where the hell are you getting this insanity from? One could say that if obama gets elected he will tax us for every breath we take, but that is just a complete lie you formed to fear monger. For that matter Mitt could tax us every time we do not buy from his corporate friends. Is he going to do that? no, but it has just as much basis in reality as your bullshit claim.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

For those who find great satisfaction that obamacare passed because it was ruled a tax, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT.
The passage of obamacare was to help with the cost of medical care. Now what would stop the government from controlling the numbers of miles you put on your car in the fight to control global warming? You are only allowed to drive a certain numbers of miles or you will be taxed on every mile that you go over your pre-approved set mileage plan.

I actually see this happening if obama is elected. Can you afford the addition tax?

First thing to explain to chicken little, Obama cannot pass a law without congress, so it has to get by congress first. I really doubt you have anything to worry about.

Second, Obama bailed out GM. I highly doubt he will attempt to get a law passed that would be so bad for the automotive industry.

Now, where the hell are you getting this insanity from? One could say that if obama gets elected he will tax us for every breath we take, but that is just a complete lie you formed to fear monger. For that matter Mitt could tax us every time we do not buy from his corporate friends. Is he going to do that? no, but it has just as much basis in reality as your bullshit claim.

First thing to explain to chicken little, Obama cannot pass a law without congress, so it has to get by congress first. I really doubt you have anything to worry about.

Stupid when did I say obama could?

 

[Greenbeard]

Now what would stop the government from controlling the numbers of miles you put on your car in the fight to control global warming? You are only allowed to drive a certain numbers of miles or you will be taxed on every mile that you go over your pre-approved set mileage plan.

Mileage is less important than fuel consumption for this issue. Next thing you know, there'll be a federal gas tax!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Anything is possible with this ludicrous law.

 

[Darkwind]

While I have no dog in the fight, I do remember the gay argument about just wanting civil unions.

Your assertion, made in the face of evidence that each and every step of liberalism, is but a single stepping stone toward an overall goal of pure socialistic government, seems to fall flat on its face.

There are people already calling to take Obama's taxcare to the next step.

Single payer.

So, answer the question.


What can they NOT do to use under this new power to tax?

 

[thanatos144]

Seems the OP hit it dead on cause the liberals are all trying to deflect and ridicule...By the way people it doesnt have to be Obama it can be any progressive.......

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Darkwind are you asking me?

 

[PratchettFan]

This is not a new power to tax. The power to tax has been there all the time. Nothing new about it.

In terms of limiting miles, not new either. During WWII almost everything you bought was limited. You had to have coupons to buy gas, tires, etc. So yes, the government can do that and has done it in the past.

Will they do it? Unlikely.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This is not a new power to tax. The power to tax has been there all the time. Nothing new about it.

In terms of limiting miles, not new either. During WWII almost everything you bought was limited. You had to have coupons to buy gas, tires, etc. So yes, the government can do that and has done it in the past.

Will they do it? Unlikely.

obnamacare was unlikely but it became as is
obamacare not being a tax was how it was sold but it is a tax. You think the government setting a mileage overage tax is unlikely? I say you're insane. The government will do it because of the global warming facade

 

[PratchettFan]

This is not a new power to tax. The power to tax has been there all the time. Nothing new about it.

In terms of limiting miles, not new either. During WWII almost everything you bought was limited. You had to have coupons to buy gas, tires, etc. So yes, the government can do that and has done it in the past.

Will they do it? Unlikely.

obnamacare was unlikely but it became as is
obamacare not being a tax was how it was sold but it is a tax. You think the government setting a mileage overage tax is unlikely? I say you're insane. The government will do it because of the global warming facade

It was not unlikely. It was inevitable. The Clintons first proposed this kind of thing and couldn't get it started. By the time Obama became President no one was disputing that something of this nature was required, it was just a matter of how. The mandate everyone is calling socialism was actually put forth as early as 1989 by The Heritage Foundation, a well-known conservative think tank. It was part of a compromise in lieu of providing people with a medicare like government option. It is also inevitable that we will see universal health care. Probably within the next 10 years, regardless of who is in the White House.

I am not insane on the gas tax in dealing with global warming. At least, it won't happen until it is far too late. Such a thing would take real leadership and there is no such thing in government today. The House will not allow it to happen because each of their members are far more concerned about getting re-elected than they are in solving any problems.

 

[Vast LWC]

OK, I have only one thing to say here:

Congress has been allowed to tax people in whichever way they see fit since 1913.

It's called the 16th amendment, look it up.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

OK, I have only one thing to say here:

Congress has been allowed to tax people in whichever way they see fit since 1913.

It's called the 16th amendment, look it up.

As in to force you to buy something they will tax you. That has never been done before.

 

[signelect]

This is only the beginning, once we allow the dictator in chief to totally ignore the constitution it is down hill. How far we drive, how many hours can I run my AC in the summer. the list can go on. It is pure socialism any way you spell it.;