After Protests, Backlash Grows

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Opponents of Illegal Immigration Are Increasingly Vocal

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 3, 2006; Page A10

While a series of marches focused much of the nation's attention on the plight of illegal immigrants, scores of other Americans quietly seethed. Now, with the same full-throated cry expressed by those in the country illegally, they are shouting back.

Congressional leaders in Washington have gotten bricks in the mail from a group that advocates building a border fence, :thup: states in the West and South have drawn up tough anti-immigrant laws, and ordinary citizens, such as Janis McDonald of Pennsylvania, who considers herself a liberal, are not mincing words in expressing their displeasure.

"Send them back," McDonald said. "Build a damn wall and be done with it."

The anger evoked a word that immigrant organizers who opposed Monday's boycott feared: backlash. McDonald and other Americans were particularly disturbed by Monday's boycott and civil action, attended in large part by people who entered the country illegally and are now demanding rights enjoyed by U.S.-born citizens and immigrants who entered the country legally.

"How dare they," said McDonald, a research specialist for the University of Pittsburgh who said she voted for Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) in the 2004 presidential election. "If they are so active, why aren't they in Mexico City, why aren't they forcing their leaders there to deal with the quality of life? If you don't like it here, go home."

That strong sentiment was heard across the country, on a radio program in Los Angeles, where talk-show hosts John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou encouraged listeners to participate in a "Great American Spend-a-Lot" to offset the effect of the boycott. They vowed to reimburse listeners picked in a drawing.

In the Washington area, African American radio listeners kept bringing up the immigration issue as Leila McDowell, a guest host on the Joe Madison show, tried to discuss abuse of black and Latino workers at a North Carolina meat-processing plant.

"I would say that the majority of comments were hostile, but it wasn't an overwhelming majority," said McDowell. "A lot of people said immigrants were trying to make ends meet just like us. And then there were those who said that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our services, that they shouldn't be legal, that my forefathers were slaves, and these people haven't paid their dues."

In Kansas City, Mo., Joyce Mucci, the executive director of the Mid-America Immigration Reform Coalition, said she didn't see much impact from the march in her city.

"Frankly I think they're overplaying their hand," she said, adding, "I think people who may have been sitting on the fence are not sitting on the fence anymore. These marches are not helping the people they're intending to help."

Congress is considering several immigration reform proposals. One would hand out temporary work permits to foreigners outside the country, allow illegal residents already here to pay a fine and work, possibly toward legal residency. Another would make it a felony to enter the country illegally and to offer assistance to anyone who does, and would build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border. A third would force illegal immigrants here to go home before being allowed to work.

Whether the anger expressed by some Americans will translate into votes in November is anybody's guess. Fred Yang, a Democratic consultant in Washington, guessed that it will not.

"This is going to be like a tug of war," he said. "I think Republicans are trying to exploit voter concerns about immigration. It's not a winning strategy. I think voters are more concerned about health-care costs, the cost of higher education and gasoline and energy than immigration."

Immigration opponents are also concerned about the costs of public services immigrants use at the expense of taxpayers. Don Stewart, a spokesman for Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), said his state spends $2 billion a year on health care and education for people in the country illegally. Arizona and California officials said their expense for detaining illegal immigrants who commit crimes is a combined $950 million per year, a fraction of which is reimbursed by the federal government.

"It's an enormous burden on taxpayers," Stewart said. "It's funny that people think that going out on the streets will make people change their minds. There are very strong opinions on this issue."

Cornyn is one of many politicians who got a gift from Send-a-brick.com, which allows visitors to purchase a brick for about $11 and mail it to their representative, a weighty hint to build a border fence. The site's operators could not be reached for comment.

Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), one of the most vocal lawmakers arguing for a tough approach to illegal immigrants, said he recently attended a dinner at which an employer received rousing applause for his stand against an immigrant worker who wanted to take Monday off. "He said he told him that if you don't come to work Monday, don't bother coming in on Tuesday."

Staff writers Sonya Geis in Los Angeles and Kari Lydersen in Chicago contributed to this report.
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Opponents of Illegal Immigration Are Increasingly Vocal

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 3, 2006; Page A10

While a series of marches focused much of the nation's attention on the plight of illegal immigrants, scores of other Americans quietly seethed. Now, with the same full-throated cry expressed by those in the country illegally, they are shouting back.

Congressional leaders in Washington have gotten bricks in the mail from a group that advocates building a border fence, :thup: states in the West and South have drawn up tough anti-immigrant laws, and ordinary citizens, such as Janis McDonald of Pennsylvania, who considers herself a liberal, are not mincing words in expressing their displeasure.

"Send them back," McDonald said. "Build a damn wall and be done with it."

The anger evoked a word that immigrant organizers who opposed Monday's boycott feared: backlash. McDonald and other Americans were particularly disturbed by Monday's boycott and civil action, attended in large part by people who entered the country illegally and are now demanding rights enjoyed by U.S.-born citizens and immigrants who entered the country legally.

"How dare they," said McDonald, a research specialist for the University of Pittsburgh who said she voted for Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) in the 2004 presidential election. "If they are so active, why aren't they in Mexico City, why aren't they forcing their leaders there to deal with the quality of life? If you don't like it here, go home."

That strong sentiment was heard across the country, on a radio program in Los Angeles, where talk-show hosts John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou encouraged listeners to participate in a "Great American Spend-a-Lot" to offset the effect of the boycott. They vowed to reimburse listeners picked in a drawing.

In the Washington area, African American radio listeners kept bringing up the immigration issue as Leila McDowell, a guest host on the Joe Madison show, tried to discuss abuse of black and Latino workers at a North Carolina meat-processing plant.

"I would say that the majority of comments were hostile, but it wasn't an overwhelming majority," said McDowell. "A lot of people said immigrants were trying to make ends meet just like us. And then there were those who said that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our services, that they shouldn't be legal, that my forefathers were slaves, and these people haven't paid their dues."

In Kansas City, Mo., Joyce Mucci, the executive director of the Mid-America Immigration Reform Coalition, said she didn't see much impact from the march in her city.

"Frankly I think they're overplaying their hand," she said, adding, "I think people who may have been sitting on the fence are not sitting on the fence anymore. These marches are not helping the people they're intending to help."

Congress is considering several immigration reform proposals. One would hand out temporary work permits to foreigners outside the country, allow illegal residents already here to pay a fine and work, possibly toward legal residency. Another would make it a felony to enter the country illegally and to offer assistance to anyone who does, and would build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border. A third would force illegal immigrants here to go home before being allowed to work.

Whether the anger expressed by some Americans will translate into votes in November is anybody's guess. Fred Yang, a Democratic consultant in Washington, guessed that it will not.

"This is going to be like a tug of war," he said. "I think Republicans are trying to exploit voter concerns about immigration. It's not a winning strategy. I think voters are more concerned about health-care costs, the cost of higher education and gasoline and energy than immigration."

Immigration opponents are also concerned about the costs of public services immigrants use at the expense of taxpayers. Don Stewart, a spokesman for Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), said his state spends $2 billion a year on health care and education for people in the country illegally. Arizona and California officials said their expense for detaining illegal immigrants who commit crimes is a combined $950 million per year, a fraction of which is reimbursed by the federal government.

"It's an enormous burden on taxpayers," Stewart said. "It's funny that people think that going out on the streets will make people change their minds. There are very strong opinions on this issue."

Cornyn is one of many politicians who got a gift from Send-a-brick.com, which allows visitors to purchase a brick for about $11 and mail it to their representative, a weighty hint to build a border fence. The site's operators could not be reached for comment.

Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), one of the most vocal lawmakers arguing for a tough approach to illegal immigrants, said he recently attended a dinner at which an employer received rousing applause for his stand against an immigrant worker who wanted to take Monday off. "He said he told him that if you don't come to work Monday, don't bother coming in on Tuesday."

Staff writers Sonya Geis in Los Angeles and Kari Lydersen in Chicago contributed to this report.
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I wonder if Rep. Bacchus got my cinder block? He won't return my calls. I should have sent it delivery confirmation.
 
I was trying to remember who it was that I dared to send their cinder block..
I want some proof........ :funnyface
 
Stephanie said:
I was trying to remember who it was that I dared to send their cinder block..
I want some proof........ :funnyface

Guess you'll have to take my word for it. I didn't take a picture or anything.
 
Dr Grump said:
Maybe this is one issue that is going to bring liberals and conservatives together...

Now how can a guy who calls himself "Dr Grump" possibly have an optimistic view like that?

Just let me burst that bubble for ya Bud, NO, it ain't going to happen. They'll be selling snow cones in hell first.
 
Pale Rider said:
Now how can a guy who calls himself "Dr Grump" possibly have an optimistic view like that?

Just let me burst that bubble for ya Bud, NO, it ain't going to happen. They'll be selling snow cones in hell first.

RATFLMAO! heh! Don't take my moniker literally, it was the first thing that popped into my head when I signed up... :)

As for your second comment, plenty of lefties seem annoyed too (not the loony left, your average Dem)...
 
Dr Grump said:
RATFLMAO! heh! Don't take my moniker literally, it was the first thing that popped into my head when I signed up... :)

As for your second comment, plenty of lefties seem annoyed too (not the loony left, your average Dem)...

Nope. The second a lefty gets called a "racist" for wanting to maintain civilization in our nation, he'll back down. Our leaders will surf the brown wave. Hang Ten!
 
Dr Grump said:
RATFLMAO! heh! Don't take my moniker literally, it was the first thing that popped into my head when I signed up... :)

As for your second comment, plenty of lefties seem annoyed too (not the loony left, your average Dem)...

An "average dem"... what's that?
 
Dr Grump said:
Maybe this is one issue that is going to bring liberals and conservatives together...

It sure as hell should--If they weren't so damn concerned about keeping their jobs they could solve it in a heartbeat.
 
If they could all get together and agree to properly secure the border it'd be a great first step. Then they can start arguing about what to do with the millions that are already here.

Stop the blood flow, then save the patient.
 
Lots of links, think this is spot on:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/05/mondays-rallies-bust-national-polls.html



Thursday, May 04, 2006
Monday's Rallies a Bust, National Polls Agree on Border Security

Images like this one taken of high school students raising the Mexican Flag over the American Flag...

...Haven't helped the amnesty cause much. (Michelle Malkin)

A FOX News Opinion Dynamics Poll released today says that nearly two-thirds of Americans believe the country needs to do a better job on securing the border after watching the national protests on Monday:

On the issue of immigration, the poll asked how people felt when they saw the thousands of participants in Monday’s "A Day Without Immigrants" protests. By three-to-one Americans say it made them think the United States needs to do a better job protecting the country’s borders (63 percent) rather than that the participants should be given rights and made citizens (21 percent).

And on a related question about the recent release of a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, there is widespread agreement -- 78 percent say the anthem should only be sung in English, while 16 percent think it is okay for it to be sung in Spanish as well.

A Zogby poll released today showed support for the House of Representatives border enforcement bill:

Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies.

Rasmussen Reports found the same numbers in polling on border security:

Nationwide rallies, protests, and boycotts on Monday had little if any impact on public opinion. To the degree that there was any movement, it was not what the organizers intended.

Support for an enforcement first policy was 67% before the marches, 66% after.

A Gallup Poll conducted last month found similar results:

81 percent of respondents in a Gallup poll last month agreed with one of the central tenets of the opposition: that illegal immigration is "out of control."

Meanwhile, black leaders are complaining that Mexicans and other Hispanic nationals are getting preferential treatment over peoples from countries with largely African-descended populations.

And Asians and Asian-Americans are speaking out on issues such as reducing the wait times for visas for family members or green cards for skilled workers.

Hat Tip Steve Carter

posted by Gateway Pundit at 5/04/2006 07:12:00 PM
 
a day without imigrants would mean a labor shortage.....a labor shortage would mean higher wages....higher wages would mean lower unemployment....

odd that all these jobs / industires in questions; construction, meat packing, farm workers etc.... are controled by unions and odd that unions are beholden to the dems and odd that the dems want to stop guest worker programs, amnesty, or anything else the gop proposes.....
 
manu1959 said:
a day without imigrants would mean a labor shortage.....a labor shortage would mean higher wages....higher wages would mean lower unemployment....

odd that all these jobs / industires in questions; construction, meat packing, farm workers etc.... are controled by unions and odd that unions are beholden to the dems and odd that the dems want to stop guest worker programs, amnesty, or anything else the gop proposes.....

And lets stop using the term "immigrants". These wetbacks are no such thing. They're criminals. "ILLEGAL ALIENS", who have broken the laws of America, and now they're spitting in our face.
 

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