After many months of reading threads on these boards....

[Valox]

Most Conservatives are just anti-Obama and do not actually believe in individual liberty and limited government. Hence, I have seen a plethora of anti-Paul threads by Republicans and Republicans who like to preach while supporting statists freaks like Santorum and Romney.

Most Conservatives are hacks and have no principles. Their only principle is that their guy wins, hence they have been obstructionist since day one. They only want to see Obama fail, not because of his policies, but because he does not have an (R) by his name.

Republicans could care less about Conservatism, that is why they have been exploding the debt and expanding the government for decades. Do they care? They only care when the other guy does it.

After many months of reading threads on these boards, it is safe to call Republicans fucking hacks, save to say Conservative, Amelia, and potentially Full Auto (but he seems like a moderate). Other than than, most Republicans aren't Conservatives.

 

[occupied]

I knew that when all the anti-government nutbags turned into ultra nationalists in 2001 and back again in 2009.

 

[Avatar4321]

And having been here for years, I sadly see most Ron Paul supporters completely unable to comprehend how someone can disagree with Ron Paul and be for liberties. Nor do they seem to comprehend that being an @$$*#*$ to people isn' the best way to get supporters for your cause.

We only have personal liberities so that we can fulfill our duties to God, Family, and Community. They cannot be sustained otherwise. Our Constitution was written for a religious and moral people. It cannot govern anyone else.

If you want to restore what the Founders gave us it has to be done on the same foundation they used.

 

[Valox]

And having been here for years, I sadly see most Ron Paul supporters completely unable to comprehend how someone can disagree with Ron Paul and be for liberties. Nor do they seem to comprehend that being an @$$*#*$ to people isn' the best way to get supporters for your cause.

We only have personal liberities so that we can fulfill our duties to God, Family, and Community. They cannot be sustained otherwise. Our Constitution was written for a religious and moral people. It cannot govern anyone else.

If you want to restore what the Founders gave us it has to be done on the same foundation they used.

Ron Paul backs his shit up. I have yet to see a deep and resonate philosophy of individual liberty from a Santorum supporter. Plus, Santorum supporters want to rule over everyone else, while claiming that the Constitution cannot govern anyone else, except your own special kind.

At least Paul believes in freedoms. You people are tyrants.

 

[Ed Spacer]

Im an extremeist.
i am an EVOLUTIONIST,that doesnt believe in race categorization,imperialistic forced taxation,globalization,or any entitlements. Under my proposals,there will be no more waiting for checks and balances for the us citizens via policies utilized at the discretion,and only for the interests of the leaders.under a CAPITALIST DEMOCRACY,with direct power,and control,of the poeple,for the people,and by the people. Government leaders,elected and appointed,only moving upon the collective voice and majority ofthe people. Complete opposite of the communist mantra. Instead of the government being checks and balances,THE PEOPLE WOULD BEVTHE CHECKS AND BALANCES. Direct leadership without variable of selfinterest. Each level of government run like a business,partnership between citizens and leaders,with leaders only representing the voice of the people,not their own interests. No more politics,simply leadership.on direct represent of the people.TAXPAYERS WILL EVOLVE TO CITIZEN GOVERNMENT INVESTORS.At local,county,state,and federal government administrative levels. A responsible,independent,profitable nation. Elimination of entitlements.
Stick that in your hat and smoke it,lefties...
My door for EVOLUTION will torpedo your already sinking ship.

 

[Ed Spacer]

I have already drafted and created proposals,eliminating illegal immigration without impact to industry.Workplace merit act,eliminate professional socialism and redistribution,the workplace finally being allowed to hire qualified workers based on MERIT,not having to do superficial biological human screening,and just focus on a candidates qualifications.

 

[Ed Spacer]

Eliminate all of the wilsonian and FDR socialist and progressive ideals and policies.
Giving people the power to have complete control of their own futures without government interference.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
elected officials are constitutionally elected public servants.
now,they will truly be so.
BEWARE IM A COMMUNISTS WORST NIGHTMARE.

 

[Ed Spacer]

I have proposals to evolve and squash SSA and the general fund,and the cost of its administration,to FUTURE CITIZEN INVESTMENT ACCOUNTS.where,people,not government,control the power of their future with a US TREASURY SAVINGS.ACCOUNT,with an APY flat 3%,and US CITIZENS ONLY,based on their SSN#.have,each,an individual account,where,with complete control by the US CITIZEN,can elect,not be forced,like SSA now,to deposit,any amount,in any frequency that the US CITIZEN chooses.After 5 years,the private citizens,can withdraw any amount. Every quarter each vested citizen receives a statement,and can,at anytime,change,or make any decisions concerning the citizen fyture investment accounts.after age 65,automatic draws monthly will be sent to the enrollees and enrollees can make any level of any other income they so choose.POWER TO THE PEOPLE.

 

[percysunshine]

Vampiric still has a magic marker line drawn on his fore head.

 

[Ed Spacer]

Killing all discretionary spending,foreign aids,useless fed agencies,like IRS and the SSA,entitlements,any money supporting illegal aliens.

With this gutting,the us citizens profit $1.5 trillion dollars.

 

[Ed Spacer]

Killing all discretionary spending,foreign aids,useless fed agencies,like IRS and the SSA,entitlements,any money supporting illegal aliens.

With this gutting,the us citizens profit $1.5 trillion dollars.

 

[occupied]

Vampiric still has a magic marker line drawn on his fore head.

Those lines are caused when someone who scowls all the time tries to look less angry for a picture.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Killing all discretionary spending,foreign aids,useless fed agencies,like IRS and the SSA,entitlements,any money supporting illegal aliens.

…the Constitution be damned.

Otherwise it seems there’s both a RINO and CINO problem.

You guys better get it together after Obama’s second term.

 

[Ed Spacer]

Perceysunshine,instead of attempting to insult me,try looking at the substance of what i have put on the table. Proves its all above the average lefties head.
anyways,back to conversation.
citizens votes,each and everyone,will count,never be discarded.
elimination of communist union overegulation of industrial and professional businesses. Businesses will only have to deal with unions on a workplace safety level,no more slackers getting paid the same as an overachiever. this allows companies to truly create a multicyclical profit by,better quality workers,which means better priduct,better sales margin for the business their market is in,more money back into the economy as well and properly compensated workers,based on productivity and value,put money back into the economy as they earn.

 

[percysunshine]

After many months of reading threads on these boards.... I have decided that I need to look up the definition of the word 'many'.

 

[percysunshine]

Perceysunshine,instead of attempting to insult me,try looking at the substance of what i have put on the table. Proves its all above the average lefties head.
anyways,back to conversation.
citizens votes,each and everyone,will count,never be discarded.
elimination of communist union overegulation of industrial and professional businesses. Businesses will only have to deal with unions on a workplace safety level,no more slackers getting paid the same as an overachiever. this allows companies to truly create a multicyclical profit by,better quality workers,which means better priduct,better sales margin for the business their market is in,more money back into the economy as well and properly compensated workers,based on productivity and value,put money back into the economy as they earn.

I may agree with you on several levels, but pointing out that you have a magic marker line on your forehead is not, technically, an insult.

 

[Ed Spacer]

He wont have a second term,believe me.
An entitlement america will become a responsible,independent,capitalist profitable society for us citizens under my proposals.a stronger nation,with restored sovreignty,and again,champion of the free world.

 

[Ed Spacer]

Percy,stick to my points then,makes you look foolish.

 

[percysunshine]

Percy,stick to my points then,makes you look foolish.

You are assuming that looking foolish bothers me somehow.

 

[Valox]

Eliminate all of the wilsonian and FDR socialist and progressive ideals and policies. .

Wouldn't the establishment of Wilson's 14 points during the Treaty of Versailles curbed the rise of Nazi Germany?

I am curious if you could explain why Wilson's FP was so detrimental.